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Old Jan 15th 2010, 2:56 am
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..it's essential!
Well, it certainly perks me up.

I wonder if piglets enjoy it?
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Originally Posted by Jingsamichty View Post
No, I couldn't be doing with all that pouffery. There's enough lotions, potions, tweezers and make-up living with a woman. I think it would 'frying-pan to fire' to leave a lady for a lady-boy. Also Neil52 painted a rather gruesome picture of the consequences of man-love.
Oh the potions are only the half of it. You'd have to get a thorough waxing. Back, sack and crack.
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Old Jan 15th 2010, 3:41 am
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Originally Posted by Alan2005 View Post
Nah, that's just smoke and mirrors from dboy. Murder rates, drug arrests, burglaries etc, these things won't be measured that differently. (I know that the murder rate in the UK is the same as that in Nova Scotia for instance).

If you lived in the UK and only watched local TV and read local newspapers then your view would be very different. This is Canada where that is the norm.
Smoke and mirrors is it? You should have taken the time to see that my comments are in response to claims that crime figures are higher in Canada than the US. My comments were nothing to do with the UK.

I personally don't see a lot of differences in crime in the UK vs Canada the murder rate is a notch higher but that's more to do with access to firearms. There are certain areas that are misrepresented such as rape - there is no such offence in Canada - period. Assault with a weapon is another - in Canada threatening someone with a weapon is classified as an actual assault with weapon even though no physical assault took place. If another country requires an actual assault with a weapon, Canada would appear to have a worse problem. Homicides are as equally perplexing - in Canada a homicide in the commission of a sex assault is automatically first degree as is a gang related murder as is the murder of a police officer, manslaughter simply isn't an option .There are numerous other examples that i can't be bothered getting into.

My comments around stats relate directly to the games police agencies play in crime reporting and how different countries quantify certain offences - it's difficult to compare apples to apples and it's often apples to oranges- I do know, after all I have the power to assign offence codes to files and trust me, it can influence stats - shall i assign an attempt murder code or assault causing for a stabbing????? Neither is incorrect, but the former is certainly a more serious offence.

Different police agencies have different policies surrounding their responses to certain offences and how they document them. VPD is terrible they are masters at manipulating crime stats, plus they don't even bother showing up for half of them and don't create a file if they don't show - we do - all contact with the public leads to the creation of a file. We also don't bulk file (creating one file for a series of offences).

These aren't just my opinions, they are often discussed in sociology. Real crime vs reported crime for instance. There's the notion of a 'dark figure of crime' that always exists and is constant - what is not constant is 'known crime.' Even medical advances have an affect - are murder rates going down because were are being nicer to each other, or is it because we are better at fixing people - what may have been a murder 10 years ago is now classified as an assault .

I've commented numerous times here on the perception of crime. My perception of Vancouver is that it feels a hell of a lot safer than Lancaster, Manchester, Plymouth, Glasgow and Miami where I have spent extended periods of time in the past . I also know that there are way less assaults against police officers here. Make of that what you will.
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Originally Posted by Rob_999 View Post
You lived in Bangkok for three years - and the best thing about it was the food. ok - we believe you Alan
Having been to semarang and pataya beach me self, I know what you mean.
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I don't live 1000 miles away from the lake district and the general opinion amogst the locals here is that it is easily one of the most small minded, racist and bigoted areas of the UK.
Very true - especially in small villages. When my son moved secondary schools, one of the first things he noticed was that everyone seemed to be racist. He asked a few of them why they were like that and they said it's because their parents are racist too.

I only came back here to be near my parents, while my kids were younger. And even if we don't get our Canadian visas, we won't be staying in this area.
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I wonder if piglets enjoy it?
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Smoke and mirrors is it? You should have taken the time to see that my comments are in response to claims that crime figures are higher in Canada than the US. My comments were nothing to do with the UK.

I personally don't see a lot of differences in crime in the UK vs Canada the murder rate is a notch higher but that's more to do with access to firearms. There are certain areas that are misrepresented such as rape - there is no such offence in Canada - period. Assault with a weapon is another - in Canada threatening someone with a weapon is classified as an actual assault with weapon even though no physical assault took place. If another country requires an actual assault with a weapon, Canada would appear to have a worse problem. Homicides are as equally perplexing - in Canada a homicide in the commission of a sex assault is automatically first degree as is a gang related murder as is the murder of a police officer, manslaughter simply isn't an option .There are numerous other examples that i can't be bothered getting into.

My comments around stats relate directly to the games police agencies play in crime reporting and how different countries quantify certain offences - it's difficult to compare apples to apples and it's often apples to oranges- I do know, after all I have the power to assign offence codes to files and trust me, it can influence stats - shall i assign an attempt murder code or assault causing for a stabbing????? Neither is incorrect, but the former is certainly a more serious offence.

Different police agencies have different policies surrounding their responses to certain offences and how they document them. VPD is terrible they are masters at manipulating crime stats, plus they don't even bother showing up for half of them and don't create a file if they don't show - we do - all contact with the public leads to the creation of a file. We also don't bulk file (creating one file for a series of offences).

These aren't just my opinions, they are often discussed in sociology. Real crime vs reported crime for instance. There's the notion of a 'dark figure of crime' that always exists and is constant - what is not constant is 'known crime.' Even medical advances have an affect - are murder rates going down because were are being nicer to each other, or is it because we are better at fixing people - what may have been a murder 10 years ago is now classified as an assault .

I've commented numerous times here on the perception of crime. My perception of Vancouver is that it feels a hell of a lot safer than Lancaster, Manchester, Plymouth, Glasgow and Miami where I have spent extended periods of time in the past . I also know that there are way less assaults against police officers here. Make of that what you will.
I make of it that i) you've got guns and ii) the uk police are generally unpleasant gits
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Originally Posted by Oink View Post
Apparently that's a fallacy.

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Some have operations to remove the adams apple and it gets botched and they can no longer speak (like ever again). It's actually pretty miserable and depressing.
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Originally Posted by Alan2005 View Post
I make of it that i) you've got guns and ii) the uk police are generally unpleasant gits
Well at least you didn't have jibe about tasers, as I was expecting.
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Well at least you didn't have jibe about tasers, as I was expecting.
Thats like kicking a puppy - it's just too easy and it's a bit old hat now.
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Some have operations to remove the adams apple and it gets botched and they can no longer speak (like ever again). It's actually pretty miserable and depressing.
That does sound awful.
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Originally Posted by dboy View Post
Smoke and mirrors is it? ...

... Make of that what you will.
That's all far too intelligent and well thought out for this late in the thread
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Originally Posted by Alan2005 View Post
Thats like kicking a puppy - it's just too easy and it's a bit old hat now.
You'll never guess what I'm having for dinner?
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That's all far too intelligent and well thought out for this late in the thread
I know, but I couldn't resist. TV is crap afterall, I swear to god, when I look at the listings, it seems exactly the same every night. I need a a hobby!
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Apparently that's a fallacy.

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that was a chuckle. I should imagine if it was a 6,6 lorry driver from Hull named Bob, it would be easy to spot.
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