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foreigngirl Jul 23rd 2013 11:04 pm

How long does it take to get overpaid tax back?
 
We filed my OH's tax return on the last day. He is due a bit of a refund, but we haven't heard anything yet. How long does it normally take? It was his first tax return in Canada, if it makes a difference. Thank you.

haggis88 Jul 23rd 2013 11:19 pm

Re: How long does it take to get overpaid tax back?
 
my refund was through in about 3 weeks, also my first tax return in Canada...filed roughly 2 weeks before the closing date

foreigngirl Jul 23rd 2013 11:19 pm

Re: How long does it take to get overpaid tax back?
 

Originally Posted by haggis88 (Post 10815711)
my refund was through in about 3 weeks, also my first tax return in Canada...filed roughly 2 weeks before the closing date

Oh, that's great.

Is there anywhere we can chase this?

colchar Jul 23rd 2013 11:23 pm

Re: How long does it take to get overpaid tax back?
 
Did you efile? Use an accountant? Do it yourself?

colchar Jul 23rd 2013 11:24 pm

Re: How long does it take to get overpaid tax back?
 

Originally Posted by foreigngirl (Post 10815713)
Oh, that's great.

Is there anywhere we can chase this?


Don't bug the taxman, you don't want them paying any more attention to you than they have to.

foreigngirl Jul 23rd 2013 11:25 pm

Re: How long does it take to get overpaid tax back?
 

Originally Posted by colchar (Post 10815716)
Did you efile? Use an accountant? Do it yourself?

We did it ourselves, but used a programme (can't remember the name, but it was recommended on here) to calculate it for us. As we were doing it for the first time, we had to hand in the paper version. I handed it in at the tax office (whatever it's called).

foreigngirl Jul 23rd 2013 11:25 pm

Re: How long does it take to get overpaid tax back?
 

Originally Posted by colchar (Post 10815718)
Don't bug the taxman, you don't want them paying any more attention to you than they have to.

Yes, didn't think of that!

MrWindUpBird Jul 23rd 2013 11:26 pm

Re: How long does it take to get overpaid tax back?
 

Originally Posted by foreigngirl (Post 10815713)
Oh, that's great.

Is there anywhere we can chase this?

You can call the CRA call centre:

http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/cntct/phn-eng.html

They're fairly helpful but might not have that much information for you.

DandNHill Jul 23rd 2013 11:32 pm

Re: How long does it take to get overpaid tax back?
 
Ours took a long time the first year. Think it was August by the time we got our refund...

JonboyE Jul 23rd 2013 11:32 pm

Re: How long does it take to get overpaid tax back?
 
It is not unknown of them to take three months to process a new immigrant's first return.

hmac Jul 24th 2013 12:28 am

Re: How long does it take to get overpaid tax back?
 
I only received my refund two weeks ago. The accompanying letter explained that they had looked at my claim, adjusted it upward and paid me interest for the delay. :)

foreigngirl Jul 24th 2013 1:19 am

Re: How long does it take to get overpaid tax back?
 
Thank you everyone for the responses.
Interest for the delay would be nice :)

orly Jul 24th 2013 3:39 am

Re: How long does it take to get overpaid tax back?
 
Found it to be fairly random.

The tax system is another great inefficiency here. The postage and paper alone that my wife and I receive from the CRA for all sorts is mind boggling. Across millions of households it must be truly ridiculous.

Jackandvictor Jul 24th 2013 4:05 am

Re: How long does it take to get overpaid tax back?
 
Hi
We are also still waiting for our first tax return, so at least there are more two of us! Also filled on paper via the accountant!

colchar Jul 24th 2013 6:14 am

Re: How long does it take to get overpaid tax back?
 

Originally Posted by orly (Post 10815960)
Found it to be fairly random.

The tax system is another great inefficiency here. The postage and paper alone that my wife and I receive from the CRA for all sorts is mind boggling. Across millions of households it must be truly ridiculous.


One year my parents miscalculated and had an outstanding balance of $1.xx (I am not sure of how many cents, but the total outstanding was less than two dollars). They must have received seven or eight demands for the outstanding balance. Even if postage at the time only cost $0.50 per letter, they still spent more in postage than they would have received from my parents who said to hell with it, that miniscule amount could just be dealt with on the next year's taxes.

orly Jul 24th 2013 6:43 am

Re: How long does it take to get overpaid tax back?
 

Originally Posted by colchar (Post 10816133)
One year my parents miscalculated and had an outstanding balance of $1.xx (I am not sure of how many cents, but the total outstanding was less than two dollars). They must have received seven or eight demands for the outstanding balance. Even if postage at the time only cost $0.50 per letter, they still spent more in postage than they would have received from my parents who said to hell with it, that miniscule amount could just be dealt with on the next year's taxes.

Yea things like that are fun.

The stuff that gets me is when they write to my wife to inform us she's no longer entitled to some such credit or benefit which we never asked for.

Then a month or two later they write to me and say "oh btw you're entitled to that benefit we took off your wife, here's a cheque, thanks"

It's mad.

puggirl Jul 24th 2013 2:47 pm

Re: How long does it take to get overpaid tax back?
 
it took 6 months before we got ours back the first time we filed , Id forgotten all about it by then so it was a nice suprise when it turned up ! our others after that all turned up after about two weeks :)

foreigngirl Jul 24th 2013 6:13 pm

Re: How long does it take to get overpaid tax back?
 

Originally Posted by puggirl (Post 10816944)
it took 6 months before we got ours back the first time we filed , Id forgotten all about it by then so it was a nice suprise when it turned up ! our others after that all turned up after about two weeks :)

Thank you. Gosh, that IS long.

puggirl Jul 26th 2013 1:06 am

Re: How long does it take to get overpaid tax back?
 
The lady who did the taxes told us the first one takes that long as it goes to the international tax department hopefully yours will be a lot quicker :)

JonboyE Jul 26th 2013 3:42 pm

Re: How long does it take to get overpaid tax back?
 

Originally Posted by puggirl (Post 10819601)
The lady who did the taxes told us the first one takes that long as it goes to the international tax department hopefully yours will be a lot quicker :)

Yes. New immigrant returns are pre-assessed. I.e a real live CRA person wil review the return before entering it into their system.

The vast majority of net-filed or e-filed returns are post-assessed. Unless there is something wacky on your return the CRA's computers will just accept whatever you file and spit out refund cheques or demand for payment. Later on in the year they will do some statistical analysis and select the returns they want to review.

cheeky_monkey Jul 26th 2013 4:48 pm

Re: How long does it take to get overpaid tax back?
 
my first tax refund took 2 months to arrive thereafter they take about 2 weeks or seem to for me.

Steve_ Jul 26th 2013 6:09 pm

Re: How long does it take to get overpaid tax back?
 
I seem to recall a similar thread but in the past I've actually got refunds faster by filing on paper.

I remember talking to some Chinese kid once when I phoned up to ask a question and he says to me: "What software did you use to prepare your return?" Er... the stuff inside my head called a "brain".

I can't see any point to tax preparation software for Canadian personal returns unless for some strange reason it's really complex (e.g. you are self-employed). Or maybe you live in Québec.

By the time you've figured out the software you could have done it. It's not like a US return where the State and Federal returns are largely separate and there are huge numbers of tax credits you can claim.

And you don't get refunds faster using software, contrary to common belief.

foreigngirl Oct 8th 2013 4:44 pm

Re: How long does it take to get overpaid tax back?
 
Refreshing this as my OH finally got the tax back, but it's around $800 less than what we had calculated. He didn't get a letter with an explanation or anything. The money just appeared in his account. Will he get something? Should WE contact them? Thank you!

MrWindUpBird Oct 8th 2013 4:45 pm

Re: How long does it take to get overpaid tax back?
 

Originally Posted by foreigngirl (Post 10936009)
Refreshing this as my OH finally got the tax back, but it's around $800 less than what we had calculated. He didn't get a letter with an explanation or anything. The money just appeared in his account. Will he get something? Should WE contact them? Thank you!

You should get a letter from CRA explaining what they adjusted. It's probably in the mail.

Almost Canadian Oct 8th 2013 4:48 pm

Re: How long does it take to get overpaid tax back?
 

Originally Posted by foreigngirl (Post 10936009)
Refreshing this as my OH finally got the tax back, but it's around $800 less than what we had calculated. He didn't get a letter with an explanation or anything. The money just appeared in his account. Will he get something? Should WE contact them? Thank you!

He will receive a Notice of Assessment. He will need to compare the figures stated in the Notice to the figures he stated in his Tax Return and speak to CRA if there is a difference.

foreigngirl Oct 9th 2013 7:11 pm

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Thank you everyone. The letter actually arrived today.


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