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Old Nov 28th 2006, 6:46 pm
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Originally Posted by kt0157
ITraffic. Ah yes. Traffic in the UK is just awful. Way too many cars for the roads, with no significant road investment since the early 1990s. Some of the cross-country journeys I used to do in the early 1990s are now signficantly slower 10-15 years later.

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Last Monday I had cause to drive from Reading to Portsmouth during rush hour in the rain. It reminded me of how lucky I am with my current 15 minute commute to work. Mind you I suspect that if I lived in the GTA I would have felt right at home.
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Old Nov 28th 2006, 6:47 pm
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Default Re: How does this country survive?

Originally Posted by kt0157
Traffic. Ah yes. Traffic in the UK is just awful. Way too many cars for the roads, with no significant road investment since the early 1990s. Some of the cross-country journeys I used to do in the early 1990s are now signficantly slower 10-15 years later.
You say that and yet last week I was able to drive to across the country averaging 40 mph (and nearly 40 mpg) whereas here I average 11 mph and less than 20 mpg. When the traffic does clear in the UK one can whiz along interesting roads with bends, hills and quality surfaces relatively unimpeded by traffic lights. For anything automotive I think the UK is much nicer though, of course, one can afford a bigger vehicle here with more knobs and much much more suspension travel and quite possibly a vinyl faux convertible top and imitation wire wheels or even spinners.
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Old Nov 28th 2006, 6:54 pm
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Default Re: How does this country survive?

Originally Posted by dbd33
You say that and yet last week I was able to drive to across the country averaging 40 mph (and nearly 40 mpg) whereas here I average 11 mph and less than 20 mpg. When the traffic does clear in the UK one can whiz along interesting roads with bends, hills and quality surfaces relatively unimpeded by traffic lights. For anything automotive I think the UK is much nicer though, of course, one can afford a bigger vehicle here with more knobs and much much more suspension travel and quite possibly a vinyl faux convertible top and imitation wire wheels or even spinners.
Oh definately. In UK one can buy vehicles with things that are generally an anathema to North Americans. You know, stuff like handling and styling!
Arguably used cars are also cheaper in UK too.
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Old Nov 28th 2006, 7:07 pm
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Originally Posted by dbd33
You say that and yet last week I was able to drive to across the country averaging 40 mph (and nearly 40 mpg) whereas here I average 11 mph and less than 20 mpg. When the traffic does clear in the UK one can whiz along interesting roads with bends, hills and quality surfaces relatively unimpeded by traffic lights. For anything automotive I think the UK is much nicer though, of course, one can afford a bigger vehicle here with more knobs and much much more suspension travel and quite possibly a vinyl faux convertible top and imitation wire wheels or even spinners.
Funny thing, nostaligia. Or is it absence that makes the heart grow fonder? I remember being in LA after having spent months and months in the US, and sitting in a bar and explaining to a friend how badly I missed manual transmissions and bendy country roads. These days I spend hours every day cursing these same bendy country roads and sodding manuals!

Ah well, ya can't have it all, I suppose.

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Old Nov 28th 2006, 7:08 pm
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Yeah, good point on the golf club thing. But I was just making a general point that if you don't like third world countries masquerading as first world ones, England is definitely not the place to be. $20 for an undersized plate of overcooked pasta in a poncy gastro-pub? $10 for a tube ticket because there's absolutely no parking anywhere in London unless you want to feed the meter with pound coins every 20 minutes? Shop assistants who treat you like they're doing you a favour just by serving you? 2000 pounds in annual service charges for our Ladbroke Grove flat where people crapped in the stairwell? I could go on.

My culture shock kicks in when I think of how much I want to be with my family, but how little I want to go back to the country they live in.

Hooray for Canada!!!! There endeth my two cents.

Originally Posted by kt0157
I have to say, I've never experienced an old boys' network in the UK. Perhaps if I'd tried to join a golf club that might have been an issue.

Customer service? Well, we can all find terrible examples in both countries. I've not been impressed by Canada's overall consumer protection laws. But the flouting of the laws by the likes of British Gas isn't much help either.

Traffic. Ah yes. Traffic in the UK is just awful. Way too many cars for the roads, with no significant road investment since the early 1990s. Some of the cross-country journeys I used to do in the early 1990s are now signficantly slower 10-15 years later.

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Old Nov 28th 2006, 7:10 pm
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Originally Posted by Suzie
2000 pounds in annual service charges for our Ladbroke Grove flat where people crapped in the stairwell? .
Crapping in stairwells is not covered by my council tax, here we have to pay extra for that.
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Originally Posted by Atlantic Xpat
Arguably used cars are also cheaper in UK too.
Oh certainly. I was severely tempted but it was suggested to me that since we already have two not-really-legal-here vehicles a third might not be a prudent investment. In any case, it was the roads I really wanted to bring. You must be better served down there, Ontario doesn't really have geography but Newfoundland does, there must be a bend on the rock somewhere.
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These days I spend hours every day cursing these same bendy country roads and sodding manuals!
Are you very old?
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Originally Posted by tableland
Crapping in stairwells is not covered by my council tax, here we have to pay extra for that.
LOL!
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Old Nov 28th 2006, 7:13 pm
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Originally Posted by Atlantic Xpat
Last Monday I had cause to drive from Reading to Portsmouth during rush hour in the rain. It reminded me of how lucky I am with my current 15 minute commute to work. Mind you I suspect that if I lived in the GTA I would have felt right at home.
Reading to Portsmouth? You must have passed my house.

Reading is an awful place to get in and out of during rush hour or any Saturday near Christmas.
Having said that most of the routes around the surrounding towns are gridlocked on a daily basis. Yet they keep squeezing in more houses to keep up with the governments figures and Thames Water like to keep us all on our toes by randomly digging up sections of road.
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Are you very old?
As Billy Bragg once said, what's that got to do with it?
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Old Nov 28th 2006, 7:14 pm
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Originally Posted by dbd33
Oh certainly. I was severely tempted but it was suggested to me that since we already have two not-really-legal-here vehicles a third might not be a prudent investment. In any case, it was the roads I really wanted to bring. You must be better served down there, Ontario doesn't really have geography but Newfoundland does, there must be a bend on the rock somewhere.
Ok, yes, there's a not-so-good thing about Canada - or southern Ontario, at least - every last patch of land is paved over. Sometimes a view without a parking lot in it would be nice.
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Originally Posted by Atlantic Xpat
Oh definately. In UK one can buy vehicles with things that are generally an anathema to North Americans. You know, stuff like handling and styling!
Arguably used cars are also cheaper in UK too.
Oh yes AND cars that don't lock you out of them! I managed to get myself locked out of the van………………. There I was, putting my mail in the mail box and I go to get back into the van and it is locked……. engine running, music playing and keys in the ignition………… my house keys, cell phone, handbag…. everything in the car…… so I can’t phone anyone…… I can’t get into the house…… even Mr Mac's set of car keys were in the car too!

I pondered the options…………… start kicking the living daylights out of the van (after all it won't change its appearance it will still look like a big lump) ……………. Collapse in a heap and cry my eyes out (very girlie but sometimes needs must) or …… well I hadn’t thought of a third option…… a very nice lady stopped and helped me. She phoned a tow truck guy who came out within 20 minutes and he got into the car in 2 seconds! (Faster than back home….. they would have taken at least 5!) They only charged me $37.10…… which I thought was great considering the alternatives!

Springy suspension, a lovely plastic looking interior and the ability to lock itself - what more could a gal ask for!

Note to self - always, always take keys with you - the cars here are not like the cars at home and they do play tricks on you and laugh!!! Or is that the voices in my head?
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Originally Posted by tableland
Crapping in stairwells is not covered by my council tax, here we have to pay extra for that.
That is one hell of a job-creation scheme. I wonder what the job title would be?
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Old Nov 28th 2006, 7:17 pm
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That is one hell of a job-creation scheme. I wonder what the job title would be?
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