Go Back  British Expats > Living & Moving Abroad > Canada
Reload this Page >

How do you deal with the racism in Canada?

How do you deal with the racism in Canada?

Old Mar 2nd 2008, 7:32 pm
  #166  
Assimilated Pauper
 
dbd33's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Location: Ontario
Posts: 38,555
dbd33 has a reputation beyond reputedbd33 has a reputation beyond reputedbd33 has a reputation beyond reputedbd33 has a reputation beyond reputedbd33 has a reputation beyond reputedbd33 has a reputation beyond reputedbd33 has a reputation beyond reputedbd33 has a reputation beyond reputedbd33 has a reputation beyond reputedbd33 has a reputation beyond reputedbd33 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: How do you deal with the racism in Canada?

Originally Posted by JonboyE View Post
Imagine a town where half the people are green and half the people are orange.
Er, that is the case here, in Dufferin County. A local shopkeeper who is willing to deal with either orange or green people has one side of his building painted orange and one green. This part of Canada isn't so much the "England in the fifties" emmigrants want as "Northern Ireland in the fifties".
dbd33 is offline  
Old Mar 2nd 2008, 7:42 pm
  #167  
Binned by Muderators
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Location: White Rock BC
Posts: 11,631
JonboyE has a reputation beyond reputeJonboyE has a reputation beyond reputeJonboyE has a reputation beyond reputeJonboyE has a reputation beyond reputeJonboyE has a reputation beyond reputeJonboyE has a reputation beyond reputeJonboyE has a reputation beyond reputeJonboyE has a reputation beyond reputeJonboyE has a reputation beyond reputeJonboyE has a reputation beyond reputeJonboyE has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: How do you deal with the racism in Canada?

Originally Posted by dbd33 View Post
Er, that is the case here, in Dufferin County. A local shopkeeper who is willing to deal with either orange or green people has one side of his building painted orange and one green. This part of Canada isn't so much the "England in the fifties" emmigrants want as "Northern Ireland in the fifties".
Oh bu**er. These were supposed to be totally random colours. No catholic/protestant or loyalist/republican connotations were intended.
JonboyE is offline  
Old Mar 2nd 2008, 8:12 pm
  #168  
BE Forum Addict
 
MarkG's Avatar
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Location: Saskatoon, Saskatchewan
Posts: 4,094
MarkG has a reputation beyond reputeMarkG has a reputation beyond reputeMarkG has a reputation beyond reputeMarkG has a reputation beyond reputeMarkG has a reputation beyond reputeMarkG has a reputation beyond reputeMarkG has a reputation beyond reputeMarkG has a reputation beyond reputeMarkG has a reputation beyond reputeMarkG has a reputation beyond reputeMarkG has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: How do you deal with the racism in Canada?

Originally Posted by daft batty View Post
I also know that in real life people discriminate and so you have to legislate against idiots who discriminate.
Why would you want to work for someone who hates you, just because the government forces them to hire you? Not only will you be treated badly, but anyone who turns down the best candidate for the job because they're white/black/brown/green is unlikely to be running a viable business for long.

I'd much rather that racist people were open about it so I knew who to avoid.
MarkG is offline  
Old Mar 2nd 2008, 8:21 pm
  #169  
Assimilated Pauper
 
dbd33's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Location: Ontario
Posts: 38,555
dbd33 has a reputation beyond reputedbd33 has a reputation beyond reputedbd33 has a reputation beyond reputedbd33 has a reputation beyond reputedbd33 has a reputation beyond reputedbd33 has a reputation beyond reputedbd33 has a reputation beyond reputedbd33 has a reputation beyond reputedbd33 has a reputation beyond reputedbd33 has a reputation beyond reputedbd33 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: How do you deal with the racism in Canada?

Originally Posted by JonboyE View Post
Oh bu**er. These were supposed to be totally random colours. No catholic/protestant or loyalist/republican connotations were intended.

G'won, you're a subliminal religionist!
dbd33 is offline  
Old Mar 2nd 2008, 8:56 pm
  #170  
BE Forum Addict
 
daft batty's Avatar
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 4,234
daft batty has a reputation beyond reputedaft batty has a reputation beyond reputedaft batty has a reputation beyond reputedaft batty has a reputation beyond reputedaft batty has a reputation beyond reputedaft batty has a reputation beyond reputedaft batty has a reputation beyond reputedaft batty has a reputation beyond reputedaft batty has a reputation beyond reputedaft batty has a reputation beyond reputedaft batty has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: How do you deal with the racism in Canada?

Originally Posted by MarkG View Post
Why would you want to work for someone who hates you, just because the government forces them to hire you? Not only will you be treated badly, but anyone who turns down the best candidate for the job because they're white/black/brown/green is unlikely to be running a viable business for long.

I'd much rather that racist people were open about it so I knew who to avoid.
I live this, I need the money. I would rather be paid what I am worth than say I am too proud to have the help.

People do turn down the best candidate for the job. They stay in business for years. Discrimination is pretty rife. In one job I was paid several thousand pounds less because I wasnt allowed to work in some areas, so couldnt work overtime. I was made to feel inferior and that they were doing me a favour by letting me work there. If I had stood up for my rights and made a fuss then I would have been richer, had a better pension. I can see that now I am no longer in that environment.
So I would rather be treated badly and be paid my due than be treated badly and patted on the head.
daft batty is offline  
Old Mar 2nd 2008, 9:00 pm
  #171  
Binned by Muderators
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Location: White Rock BC
Posts: 11,631
JonboyE has a reputation beyond reputeJonboyE has a reputation beyond reputeJonboyE has a reputation beyond reputeJonboyE has a reputation beyond reputeJonboyE has a reputation beyond reputeJonboyE has a reputation beyond reputeJonboyE has a reputation beyond reputeJonboyE has a reputation beyond reputeJonboyE has a reputation beyond reputeJonboyE has a reputation beyond reputeJonboyE has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: How do you deal with the racism in Canada?

Originally Posted by dbd33 View Post
G'won, you're a subliminal religionist!
I treat all religions with equal bewilderment.
JonboyE is offline  
Old Mar 2nd 2008, 9:43 pm
  #172  
BE Forum Addict
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 3,124
montreal mike has a reputation beyond reputemontreal mike has a reputation beyond reputemontreal mike has a reputation beyond reputemontreal mike has a reputation beyond reputemontreal mike has a reputation beyond reputemontreal mike has a reputation beyond reputemontreal mike has a reputation beyond reputemontreal mike has a reputation beyond reputemontreal mike has a reputation beyond reputemontreal mike has a reputation beyond reputemontreal mike has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: How do you deal with the racism in Canada?

Jonboy ... your analogy was a good one and hit the mark. You are very eloquent and persuasive. Nevertheless, on principle, I find positive discimination irksome. Two wrongs don't make a right.
montreal mike is offline  
Old Mar 3rd 2008, 1:09 am
  #173  
jedi in training
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 249
buzz365 is a glorious beacon of lightbuzz365 is a glorious beacon of lightbuzz365 is a glorious beacon of lightbuzz365 is a glorious beacon of lightbuzz365 is a glorious beacon of lightbuzz365 is a glorious beacon of lightbuzz365 is a glorious beacon of lightbuzz365 is a glorious beacon of lightbuzz365 is a glorious beacon of lightbuzz365 is a glorious beacon of lightbuzz365 is a glorious beacon of light
Default Re: How do you deal with the racism in Canada?

Originally Posted by montreal mike View Post
Jonboy ... your analogy was a good one and hit the mark. You are very eloquent and persuasive. Nevertheless, on principle, I find irksome. Two wrongs don't make a right.

Your right two wrongs dont make a right, but if things like this we not in place those who have less will never have the chance to gain more. Positive discimination only came about because it was recognised that curtain parts of society were not given the chance to take up a stake in the society they live in. In all fairness if there had been a level playing field in the first place we wouldnt be having this as a topic. It amuses me that i often hear people saying that they are missing out on jobs because of Positive discimination, but often, in the case of older people, they were fine while people were being openly disciminated against.
buzz365 is offline  
Old Mar 3rd 2008, 2:13 am
  #174  
BE Forum Addict
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 3,124
montreal mike has a reputation beyond reputemontreal mike has a reputation beyond reputemontreal mike has a reputation beyond reputemontreal mike has a reputation beyond reputemontreal mike has a reputation beyond reputemontreal mike has a reputation beyond reputemontreal mike has a reputation beyond reputemontreal mike has a reputation beyond reputemontreal mike has a reputation beyond reputemontreal mike has a reputation beyond reputemontreal mike has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: How do you deal with the racism in Canada?

Originally Posted by buzz365 View Post
It amuses me that i often hear people saying that they are missing out on jobs because of Positive discimination, but often, in the case of older people, they were fine while people were being openly disciminated against.
Just to be clear -- are you saying that younger people who claim to be missing out on getting jobs but are indifferent to the plight of the older crowd?

If I am correct, well I can tell you that once one is over 55 one is good for the rubbish heap and so it is yet another hurdle to overcome. So, using the positive discrimination magic pill I would expect there would be some spots 'reserved' for my generation. So far that has not been my experience.
montreal mike is offline  
Old Mar 3rd 2008, 3:10 am
  #175  
BE Forum Addict
 
daft batty's Avatar
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 4,234
daft batty has a reputation beyond reputedaft batty has a reputation beyond reputedaft batty has a reputation beyond reputedaft batty has a reputation beyond reputedaft batty has a reputation beyond reputedaft batty has a reputation beyond reputedaft batty has a reputation beyond reputedaft batty has a reputation beyond reputedaft batty has a reputation beyond reputedaft batty has a reputation beyond reputedaft batty has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: How do you deal with the racism in Canada?

Originally Posted by montreal mike View Post
Just to be clear -- are you saying that younger people who claim to be missing out on getting jobs but are indifferent to the plight of the older crowd?

If I am correct, well I can tell you that once one is over 55 one is good for the rubbish heap and so it is yet another hurdle to overcome. So, using the positive discrimination magic pill I would expect there would be some spots 'reserved' for my generation. So far that has not been my experience.
It just doesnt work like that. Theres no magic pill
daft batty is offline  
Old Mar 3rd 2008, 3:23 am
  #176  
BE Forum Addict
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 3,124
montreal mike has a reputation beyond reputemontreal mike has a reputation beyond reputemontreal mike has a reputation beyond reputemontreal mike has a reputation beyond reputemontreal mike has a reputation beyond reputemontreal mike has a reputation beyond reputemontreal mike has a reputation beyond reputemontreal mike has a reputation beyond reputemontreal mike has a reputation beyond reputemontreal mike has a reputation beyond reputemontreal mike has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: How do you deal with the racism in Canada?

Originally Posted by daft batty View Post
It just doesnt work like that. Theres no magic pill
I know that Betty. I was attempting sarcasm.
montreal mike is offline  
Old Mar 3rd 2008, 9:00 pm
  #177  
jedi in training
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 249
buzz365 is a glorious beacon of lightbuzz365 is a glorious beacon of lightbuzz365 is a glorious beacon of lightbuzz365 is a glorious beacon of lightbuzz365 is a glorious beacon of lightbuzz365 is a glorious beacon of lightbuzz365 is a glorious beacon of lightbuzz365 is a glorious beacon of lightbuzz365 is a glorious beacon of lightbuzz365 is a glorious beacon of lightbuzz365 is a glorious beacon of light
Default Re: How do you deal with the racism in Canada?

Originally Posted by montreal mike View Post
Just to be clear -- are you saying that younger people who claim to be missing out on getting jobs but are indifferent to the plight of the older crowd?

If I am correct, well I can tell you that once one is over 55 one is good for the rubbish heap and so it is yet another hurdle to overcome. So, using the positive discrimination magic pill I would expect there would be some spots 'reserved' for my generation. So far that has not been my experience.


No mike, what im saying is before positive discrimination was introduced those in who had earlier had the privileged high ground didnt find it a problem when others were being discriminated against.
buzz365 is offline  
Old Mar 27th 2008, 12:33 am
  #178  
BE Forum Addict
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 3,124
montreal mike has a reputation beyond reputemontreal mike has a reputation beyond reputemontreal mike has a reputation beyond reputemontreal mike has a reputation beyond reputemontreal mike has a reputation beyond reputemontreal mike has a reputation beyond reputemontreal mike has a reputation beyond reputemontreal mike has a reputation beyond reputemontreal mike has a reputation beyond reputemontreal mike has a reputation beyond reputemontreal mike has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: How do you deal with the racism in Canada?

Originally Posted by Canadian Citizen View Post
Montreal Mike :

.... news stories about the criminal gangs that are operating on the St Regis reserve. Surely you have seen the coverage on Montreal tv or radio about the amount of criminal activity there ?


Interesting comment in light of today's happenings

A massive police raid at three different Mohawk reserves in Quebec Wednesday morning netted $2.5 million in cash and a large firearms cache, including three grenade launchers.


http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNew...hub=TopStories

Last edited by montreal mike; Mar 27th 2008 at 12:36 am.
montreal mike is offline  
Old Mar 28th 2008, 6:17 am
  #179  
Just Joined
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 22
VancouverNewbie is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: How do you deal with the racism in Canada?

Theres a lot of ignorance here - but that doesn't necessarily translate into racism- a lot of it is just lack of understanding.

many white folks have only experienced other races in the media and are therefore subjected to the stereotype image imposed on them. Only when meeting and interacting with other ethnic groups and religions can these stereotype images be broken down.

a lot of stuff that is mistaken as racism is sometimes just opinions (often mistaken) sometimes factually correct. Comments like "chinese are bad drivers" or "east indians are into drug-traffiking" seem to be racist on the surface,and by european standards will be classified as racist. Here, commenting, without disparaging, other races is not taboo. It is normal to ask "where are you from?" without it implying in any way, that "you don't really belong here". It is probably because everyone is from a different ethnicity that race can be discussed more freely here.
VancouverNewbie is offline  
Old Mar 28th 2008, 1:15 pm
  #180  
Assimilated Pauper
 
dbd33's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Location: Ontario
Posts: 38,555
dbd33 has a reputation beyond reputedbd33 has a reputation beyond reputedbd33 has a reputation beyond reputedbd33 has a reputation beyond reputedbd33 has a reputation beyond reputedbd33 has a reputation beyond reputedbd33 has a reputation beyond reputedbd33 has a reputation beyond reputedbd33 has a reputation beyond reputedbd33 has a reputation beyond reputedbd33 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: How do you deal with the racism in Canada?

Originally Posted by VancouverNewbie View Post
many white folks have only experienced other races in the media
Where have they been, rural Canada? Britain's been multicultural since Hector was a pup.
dbd33 is offline  

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell My Personal Information -

Copyright © 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.