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Tirytory Sep 20th 2013 9:10 am

Re: House In UK
 
Aviator.....as clear as something not very clear. My brain is not built for tax. Will have to find an accountant conversant with moving abroad. I have a house that I rent that I want to keep long term.

Amaresh- I would worry about damage to the house if it were empty, frozen pipes bursting etc, money you might need to send back not covered by rental income, squatters?

We are selling our main residence as I probably wouldn't want to live there again, and to put towards a house over here. Also, I think renting could devalue a house and potentially put buyers off altogether if they don't look after it. A house that is not earning you any income, and you have to send money back (the wrong way) to cover mortgage/council tax etc seems pointless. A very expensive holiday home.

not2old Sep 20th 2013 9:23 am

Re: House In UK
 
I'm sure some folks know about non resident & tax, especially capital gains tax

For the uninformed, HMRC provide for you the following

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/rates/cgt.htm

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/international/res-dom.htm

Amaresh Sep 20th 2013 9:34 am

Re: House In UK
 

Originally Posted by Tirytory (Post 10910587)
Aviator.....as clear as something not very clear. My brain is not built for tax. Will have to find an accountant conversant with moving abroad. I have a house that I rent that I want to keep long term.

Amaresh- I would worry about damage to the house if it were empty, frozen pipes bursting etc, money you might need to send back not covered by rental income, squatters?

We are selling our main residence as I probably wouldn't want to live there again, and to put towards a house over here. Also, I think renting could devalue a house and potentially put buyers off altogether if they don't look after it. A house that is not earning you any income, and you have to send money back (the wrong way) to cover mortgage/council tax etc seems pointless. A very expensive holiday home.

Wise words. Thank you.

Amaresh Sep 20th 2013 9:35 am

Re: House In UK
 

Originally Posted by not2old (Post 10910596)
I'm sure some folks know about non resident & tax, especially capital gains tax

For the uninformed, HMRC provide for you the following

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/rates/cgt.htm

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/international/res-dom.htm

Thanks, not2old.

Could you please have a look at the PM I sent you?

Please let me know what OP and POV mean.

thanks.

not2old Sep 20th 2013 9:38 am

Re: House In UK
 

Originally Posted by Tirytory (Post 10910587)
Aviator.....as clear as something not very clear. My brain is not built for tax. Will have to find an accountant conversant with moving abroad. I have a house that I rent that I want to keep long term.

We are selling our main residence as I probably wouldn't want to live there again, and to put towards a house over here. Also, I think renting could devalue a house and potentially put buyers off altogether if they don't look after it. A house that is not earning you any income, and you have to send money back (the wrong way) to cover mortgage/council tax etc seems pointless. A very expensive holiday home.

HMRC Q&A on capital gains (CG)

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/cnr/faqs_capgains.htm

BTW, if ever anyone is thinking about devaluing the asset to avoid or lower the CG impact- I'm guessing that you may get penalized, fined for false declaration of value etc

HMRC in all likelihood knows that you are not resident & I think on disposition of the property the value its sold for is public through the land registry office, the estate agents records even who the buyer was & what they paid

not2old Sep 20th 2013 9:43 am

Re: House In UK
 

Originally Posted by Amaresh (Post 10910605)

Please let me know what OP and POV mean.

:ohmy::ohmy::ohmy:

OP = opening post

POV = point of view

Tirytory Sep 20th 2013 9:45 am

Re: House In UK
 
Not2old. Thanks. A lot simpler. I'm not being uninformed. I simply haven't gotten round to finding out about it yet. It's on my list of things to do before we leave the country. Incidentally, I've had it valued this week as we need to change mortgage providers, so will have to make sure I keep the information somewhere safe!!

not2old Sep 20th 2013 9:51 am

Re: House In UK
 

Originally Posted by Tirytory (Post 10910617)
Not2old. Thanks. A lot simpler. I'm not being uninformed. I simply haven't gotten round to finding out about it yet. It's on my list of things to do before we leave the country. Incidentally, I've had it valued this week as we need to change mortgage providers, so will have to make sure I keep the information somewhere safe!!

:goodpost:

in the time of need doing what you plan on doing the services of an Accountant & Solicitor are worth the money spent to sleep at night & to not have to do all the time & effort yourself.;);)

Tirytory Sep 20th 2013 9:55 am

Re: House In UK
 
in the time of need doing what you plan on doing the services of an Accountant & Solicitor are worth the money spent to sleep at night & to not have to do all the time & effort yourself.;);)[/QUOTE]

Absolutely!!! :)

Amaresh Sep 20th 2013 9:55 am

Re: House In UK
 

Originally Posted by not2old (Post 10910612)
:ohmy::ohmy::ohmy:

OP = opening post

POV = point of view

:)

not2old Sep 20th 2013 9:59 am

Re: House In UK
 

Originally Posted by Amaresh (Post 10910499)

I am keen on keeping the house.

Should I rent or should I leave the house empty?

Ideas/suggestions welcome.

from your OP post#1

After reading the discussion & responses in this thread - have you decided to sell or rent the house?

dwight-van-man Sep 20th 2013 10:01 am

Re: House In UK
 
Couple of practical points:

1) if you keep it empty, your regular home insurance won't cover if its uninhabited for longer than 60 or 90 days
2) security considerations - an empty house is likely to be a target for burglary
3) if you rent it a good letting agent will minimise the chance of tenant damage and having the property occupied will prevent issue like frozen pipes
4) if you rent, its likely your mortgage will not allow you to rent without requesting 'Consent to Let' from Clydesdale. A regular mortgage contract will not allow you to rent the house without permission. Be prepared to pay a fee and possibly an interest rate loading for this.

Amaresh Sep 20th 2013 10:01 am

Re: House In UK
 

Originally Posted by not2old (Post 10910612)
:ohmy::ohmy::ohmy:

OP = opening post

POV = point of view

Pm sent again :)

Amaresh Sep 20th 2013 10:02 am

Re: House In UK
 

Originally Posted by not2old (Post 10910631)
from your OP post#1

After reading the discussion & responses in this thread - have you decided to sell or rent the house?

Sensible idea will be to sell the house

Tirytory Sep 20th 2013 10:08 am

Re: House In UK
 
I know not all mortgage providers are the same but mine allowed permission to let without fee or mortgage interest rate change.

Leaving the country is a very reasonable reason to want to rent. Mine was under different circumstances.


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