Help for those new Canadians
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Re: Help for those new Canadians
Well up until I worked at Scotiabank in 2007- we were not allowed to open accounts for non residents who did'nt have paperwork, its always best to check with the bank directly...things may have changed since I left and so perhaps you can now, but the banks are so strict on the rules of money laundering etc...
I would be interested to know from someone who has done it in the last 3 months and what banks allow it.. when replying please give details of what paperwork you had to show and your circumstances ( ie non res)
I would be interested to know from someone who has done it in the last 3 months and what banks allow it.. when replying please give details of what paperwork you had to show and your circumstances ( ie non res)
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I'm not sure if you can help me or not but it seems like you'd be the person to ask.
I'm currently studying at university in york but I want to drop out and go to the university of regina sasketchewan, if I did this I'd be studying for two years. I've spoken to the student loans company in the uk and they say they can only give me one more year of funding, would I be able to take out a student loan from a canadian bank?
I'm trying to get into the country on the canadian experience class program and the easiest way for me to get into the country is to study for two years at a canadian school then work for a year in industry.
Can a bank help me?
I'm currently studying at university in york but I want to drop out and go to the university of regina sasketchewan, if I did this I'd be studying for two years. I've spoken to the student loans company in the uk and they say they can only give me one more year of funding, would I be able to take out a student loan from a canadian bank?
I'm trying to get into the country on the canadian experience class program and the easiest way for me to get into the country is to study for two years at a canadian school then work for a year in industry.
Can a bank help me?
http://scotiabank.com/cda/content/0,..._LIDen,00.html
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Great thread
I just wanted to ask about mortgages...
We set up bank accounts today with Scotiabank and asked about mortgage approval as we are quite keen to get our own place. The guy dealing with us told us we could easily afford the amount we wanted to borrow, however we need a 25% downpayment. Is this the usual case for new immigrants? (we have literally just arrived). Is 25% standard for all banks or do we get a better deal if we shop around? For a house at the lower end of our budget, it would mean a $115,000 deposit
I just wanted to ask about mortgages...
We set up bank accounts today with Scotiabank and asked about mortgage approval as we are quite keen to get our own place. The guy dealing with us told us we could easily afford the amount we wanted to borrow, however we need a 25% downpayment. Is this the usual case for new immigrants? (we have literally just arrived). Is 25% standard for all banks or do we get a better deal if we shop around? For a house at the lower end of our budget, it would mean a $115,000 deposit
Finally got a reply back from the lender-
The lender adheres exactly to the CMHC guidelines but warns that these guidelines are constantly under review. It is on a case by case basis due to the new guidelines surrounding credit bureau score. If a foreign person enters Canada, they would of course not have a Canadian bureau.So would have to provide permission to access UK credit history.
It is possible to apply for a mortgage with as little as 5% down, under the CMHC newcomers to Canada program, obviously the more of a downpayment that you have, the more favourably the lenders are going to look at you.
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Hi there
Finally got a reply back from the lender-
The lender adheres exactly to the CMHC guidelines but warns that these guidelines are constantly under review. It is on a case by case basis due to the new guidelines surrounding credit bureau score. If a foreign person enters Canada, they would of course not have a Canadian bureau.So would have to provide permission to access UK credit history.
It is possible to apply for a mortgage with as little as 5% down, under the CMHC newcomers to Canada program, obviously the more of a downpayment that you have, the more favourably the lenders are going to look at you.
Finally got a reply back from the lender-
The lender adheres exactly to the CMHC guidelines but warns that these guidelines are constantly under review. It is on a case by case basis due to the new guidelines surrounding credit bureau score. If a foreign person enters Canada, they would of course not have a Canadian bureau.So would have to provide permission to access UK credit history.
It is possible to apply for a mortgage with as little as 5% down, under the CMHC newcomers to Canada program, obviously the more of a downpayment that you have, the more favourably the lenders are going to look at you.
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As the economy slows down and house prices fall - then high LTV mortgages (deposits sub 10%) are going to get harder to find for everyone and not just new immigrants. And those that can be found will be expensive. Buying a house now with only a 5% deposit will probably put you in negative equity within six months and so banks are going to price that risk in accordingly.
All we can do is wait and see and be very cautious...
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Hi shelley, Do you know where i would find statistical data showing the decline in the housing market by Province and City?
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Dear Silvia
Check out the WIKI link top of page, it has some great things about how to job hunt etc.... American Express Canada exists so you may want to look on their website as you have existing Amex experience... there is a shortage of workers in the Financial Services Industry in Canada. Also try the main website for Canada for jobs
www.workopolis.com
www.jobbank.gc.ca
You cannot open an account if you don't live in Canada- if you had papers to show you have been approved for work permit or Permanent Resident, then yes you can open account before you come, but if you have'nt then no you cannot- ever since 9/11 things have tightened up. Thus you cannot build up credit in Canada either without living here.
Once you get your papers then you can go to the HSBC Canada website and open an account online before you come then once you get here, you just go into the bank and show ID and papers etc..
I would be very happy to help you re house purchase once you decide...
Good Luck with your recce.
Check out the WIKI link top of page, it has some great things about how to job hunt etc.... American Express Canada exists so you may want to look on their website as you have existing Amex experience... there is a shortage of workers in the Financial Services Industry in Canada. Also try the main website for Canada for jobs
www.workopolis.com
www.jobbank.gc.ca
You cannot open an account if you don't live in Canada- if you had papers to show you have been approved for work permit or Permanent Resident, then yes you can open account before you come, but if you have'nt then no you cannot- ever since 9/11 things have tightened up. Thus you cannot build up credit in Canada either without living here.
Once you get your papers then you can go to the HSBC Canada website and open an account online before you come then once you get here, you just go into the bank and show ID and papers etc..
I would be very happy to help you re house purchase once you decide...
Good Luck with your recce.
I have already asked within Amex and with 7000 jobs being eliminated worldwide it's really not going to happen for me.
How did everybody else get jobs in Canada from the UK? I really cannot afford coming over without one of us having a job and since my husband is an engineer we think he has a greater chance of getting a good job..
But he's rang a couple of recruitment agencies and they have fobbed him off saying that he's better off coming over through the points system and then hunting for a job locally...but it's too risky for us!
Is there a specific website for immigrants that are job hunting with employers "willing" to sponsor? What did you all do to find a job over there?
Help!!
Thanks again,
Silvia
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How did everybody else get jobs in Canada from the UK? I really cannot afford coming over without one of us having a job and since my husband is an engineer we think he has a greater chance of getting a good job..
But he's rang a couple of recruitment agencies and they have fobbed him off saying that he's better off coming over through the points system and then hunting for a job locally...but it's too risky for us!
Is there a specific website for immigrants that are job hunting with employers "willing" to sponsor? What did you all do to find a job over there?
Help!!
Thanks again,
Silvia
But he's rang a couple of recruitment agencies and they have fobbed him off saying that he's better off coming over through the points system and then hunting for a job locally...but it's too risky for us!
Is there a specific website for immigrants that are job hunting with employers "willing" to sponsor? What did you all do to find a job over there?
Help!!
Thanks again,
Silvia
Also, you should be aware that engineering is a graduate profession in Canada. Your OH will have no success looking for jobs that specify an engineer so should concentrate on technician positions in the area of his specialty.
To be honest, this is not a great time to be looking for a job. Unemployment rates all over Canada are starting to rise and no one is sure how bad it is going to get. I am relatively optimistic but others are predicting a melt-down. Whatever the actual outcome, there are more Canadians looking for jobs so there are less employers willing to go through the hassle of employing from overseas. It will also be more difficult to get an LMO in the areas of Canada where there employers are laying off their current workers.
You should identify skills that you have that are different to those of Canadians, and that are valuable to employers, then market them for all you are worth.
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you could try Stats Canada website
http://www.statcan.gc.ca/start-debut-eng.html
you can search by subject...
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HI there
you could try Stats Canada website
http://www.statcan.gc.ca/start-debut-eng.html
you can search by subject...
you could try Stats Canada website
http://www.statcan.gc.ca/start-debut-eng.html
you can search by subject...
http://www.canadian-housing-price-ch...5.ca/index.htm
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HI there
you could try Stats Canada website
http://www.statcan.gc.ca/start-debut-eng.html
you can search by subject...
you could try Stats Canada website
http://www.statcan.gc.ca/start-debut-eng.html
you can search by subject...
when determining where to aim for when migrating, it was an indispensible tool in finding out how many from where, of what age, of what education was headed where etc.
i am that kind of nerd! oh dear. i should have guessed they covered housing as well as population dynamics!
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stats can is an incredible resource. too much of a good thing maybe?
when determining where to aim for when migrating, it was an indispensible tool in finding out how many from where, of what age, of what education was headed where etc.
i am that kind of nerd! oh dear. i should have guessed they covered housing as well as population dynamics!
when determining where to aim for when migrating, it was an indispensible tool in finding out how many from where, of what age, of what education was headed where etc.
i am that kind of nerd! oh dear. i should have guessed they covered housing as well as population dynamics!
Ah here it is:
http://www12.statcan.ca/english/cens...d1=0&d2=1&d3=0
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Hi Shelley,
Since you're familiar with the banks over here I was wondering if you could advise:
I have 13,000 GBP left to pay on a loan with Barclays in the UK. I also have about 18,000 GBP on credit cards (largely down to moving to Canada and flat renovations in the UK), most of which was on a 0% rate until this month - I am making smallish payments each month, but now the interest I'm now being charged is crazy and I'm investigating options on how to alleviate the situation, as I can't afford to pay off even the interest I'm being charged per month.
I'm looking into getting a line of credit, and I'm going to see Scotiabank this afternoon. Since the rates advertised on their site are as low as the prime rate + 1% (ie under 4% currently), this is less than half the interest I'm paying on my Barclays loan, and less than a quarter of the credit card interest.
Do you think it's feasible to get a line of credit for $50,000 to pay both the loan and the credit cards in the UK and bring the debt over to Canada? The exchange rate is pretty good at the moment, and it would be easier to pay off debt in the same country, not to mention at a much lower interest rate. I did see one post on here from someone saying that he's been in Canada for 15 years and has a line of credit equivalent to 15% of his salary - is that a typical example? I'd be looking for 50%... Ideally I'd pay it off at $1000 a month for 5 years or so.
The complication with Scotiabank so far has been that I have a SIN which begins with 9. So far they've told me in no uncertain terms that this means that I cannot get an overdraft with them, even though they know my company, I had a proof of earnings letter from them, and I even had to pay $1200 for a bonded credit card with a limit of $1000 - they still quibbled about this because they wanted all of documentaion from British banks but after a lot of pleading eventually settled for my UK credit report. With all the expense of buying a car (necessary for my work), moving here, furnishing an apartment etc, this was another kick in the teeth. Therefore, I'm not expecting miracles from them but I'd appreciate any advice you might have on this.
My move to Canada was unexpected due to being offered a job here out of the blue - I had 3 months from inception to completion. Unfortunately the debt was necessary to avoid having to sell my flat in with negative equity - it was unrentable in its previous state as I bought it as a project 2 years ago, but now unfortunately it's worth only about 80% of what I paid for it.
Hoping you can advise! Thanks,
BritinCanada
Since you're familiar with the banks over here I was wondering if you could advise:
I have 13,000 GBP left to pay on a loan with Barclays in the UK. I also have about 18,000 GBP on credit cards (largely down to moving to Canada and flat renovations in the UK), most of which was on a 0% rate until this month - I am making smallish payments each month, but now the interest I'm now being charged is crazy and I'm investigating options on how to alleviate the situation, as I can't afford to pay off even the interest I'm being charged per month.
I'm looking into getting a line of credit, and I'm going to see Scotiabank this afternoon. Since the rates advertised on their site are as low as the prime rate + 1% (ie under 4% currently), this is less than half the interest I'm paying on my Barclays loan, and less than a quarter of the credit card interest.
Do you think it's feasible to get a line of credit for $50,000 to pay both the loan and the credit cards in the UK and bring the debt over to Canada? The exchange rate is pretty good at the moment, and it would be easier to pay off debt in the same country, not to mention at a much lower interest rate. I did see one post on here from someone saying that he's been in Canada for 15 years and has a line of credit equivalent to 15% of his salary - is that a typical example? I'd be looking for 50%... Ideally I'd pay it off at $1000 a month for 5 years or so.
The complication with Scotiabank so far has been that I have a SIN which begins with 9. So far they've told me in no uncertain terms that this means that I cannot get an overdraft with them, even though they know my company, I had a proof of earnings letter from them, and I even had to pay $1200 for a bonded credit card with a limit of $1000 - they still quibbled about this because they wanted all of documentaion from British banks but after a lot of pleading eventually settled for my UK credit report. With all the expense of buying a car (necessary for my work), moving here, furnishing an apartment etc, this was another kick in the teeth. Therefore, I'm not expecting miracles from them but I'd appreciate any advice you might have on this.
My move to Canada was unexpected due to being offered a job here out of the blue - I had 3 months from inception to completion. Unfortunately the debt was necessary to avoid having to sell my flat in with negative equity - it was unrentable in its previous state as I bought it as a project 2 years ago, but now unfortunately it's worth only about 80% of what I paid for it.
Hoping you can advise! Thanks,
BritinCanada
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Re: Help for those new Canadians
Hi there
Sorry to hear of your problems- you will not get a line of credit for that amount of $ which is unsecured- lenders are very nervous of a '9' for the SSN ( I know that a lot of you on here will moan about it but thats just the way it is).
I too had to go the secured credit card route when we came to Canada in 2002, so you are not alone there.
Honestly-I would try and come to some agreement with your UK credit card company.
Whoever told you about a line of credit is approx 15% of your salary is not telling you the truth-its based purely on your ability to pay, your credit history, your income and whatever debt you already have.
Sorry that I do not have better news for you.
Sorry to hear of your problems- you will not get a line of credit for that amount of $ which is unsecured- lenders are very nervous of a '9' for the SSN ( I know that a lot of you on here will moan about it but thats just the way it is).
I too had to go the secured credit card route when we came to Canada in 2002, so you are not alone there.
Honestly-I would try and come to some agreement with your UK credit card company.
Whoever told you about a line of credit is approx 15% of your salary is not telling you the truth-its based purely on your ability to pay, your credit history, your income and whatever debt you already have.
Sorry that I do not have better news for you.
Hi Shelley,
Since you're familiar with the banks over here I was wondering if you could advise:
I have 13,000 GBP left to pay on a loan with Barclays in the UK. I also have about 18,000 GBP on credit cards (largely down to moving to Canada and flat renovations in the UK), most of which was on a 0% rate until this month - I am making smallish payments each month, but now the interest I'm now being charged is crazy and I'm investigating options on how to alleviate the situation, as I can't afford to pay off even the interest I'm being charged per month.
I'm looking into getting a line of credit, and I'm going to see Scotiabank this afternoon. Since the rates advertised on their site are as low as the prime rate + 1% (ie under 4% currently), this is less than half the interest I'm paying on my Barclays loan, and less than a quarter of the credit card interest.
Do you think it's feasible to get a line of credit for $50,000 to pay both the loan and the credit cards in the UK and bring the debt over to Canada? The exchange rate is pretty good at the moment, and it would be easier to pay off debt in the same country, not to mention at a much lower interest rate. I did see one post on here from someone saying that he's been in Canada for 15 years and has a line of credit equivalent to 15% of his salary - is that a typical example? I'd be looking for 50%... Ideally I'd pay it off at $1000 a month for 5 years or so.
The complication with Scotiabank so far has been that I have a SIN which begins with 9. So far they've told me in no uncertain terms that this means that I cannot get an overdraft with them, even though they know my company, I had a proof of earnings letter from them, and I even had to pay $1200 for a bonded credit card with a limit of $1000 - they still quibbled about this because they wanted all of documentaion from British banks but after a lot of pleading eventually settled for my UK credit report. With all the expense of buying a car (necessary for my work), moving here, furnishing an apartment etc, this was another kick in the teeth. Therefore, I'm not expecting miracles from them but I'd appreciate any advice you might have on this.
My move to Canada was unexpected due to being offered a job here out of the blue - I had 3 months from inception to completion. Unfortunately the debt was necessary to avoid having to sell my flat in with negative equity - it was unrentable in its previous state as I bought it as a project 2 years ago, but now unfortunately it's worth only about 80% of what I paid for it.
Hoping you can advise! Thanks,
BritinCanada
Since you're familiar with the banks over here I was wondering if you could advise:
I have 13,000 GBP left to pay on a loan with Barclays in the UK. I also have about 18,000 GBP on credit cards (largely down to moving to Canada and flat renovations in the UK), most of which was on a 0% rate until this month - I am making smallish payments each month, but now the interest I'm now being charged is crazy and I'm investigating options on how to alleviate the situation, as I can't afford to pay off even the interest I'm being charged per month.
I'm looking into getting a line of credit, and I'm going to see Scotiabank this afternoon. Since the rates advertised on their site are as low as the prime rate + 1% (ie under 4% currently), this is less than half the interest I'm paying on my Barclays loan, and less than a quarter of the credit card interest.
Do you think it's feasible to get a line of credit for $50,000 to pay both the loan and the credit cards in the UK and bring the debt over to Canada? The exchange rate is pretty good at the moment, and it would be easier to pay off debt in the same country, not to mention at a much lower interest rate. I did see one post on here from someone saying that he's been in Canada for 15 years and has a line of credit equivalent to 15% of his salary - is that a typical example? I'd be looking for 50%... Ideally I'd pay it off at $1000 a month for 5 years or so.
The complication with Scotiabank so far has been that I have a SIN which begins with 9. So far they've told me in no uncertain terms that this means that I cannot get an overdraft with them, even though they know my company, I had a proof of earnings letter from them, and I even had to pay $1200 for a bonded credit card with a limit of $1000 - they still quibbled about this because they wanted all of documentaion from British banks but after a lot of pleading eventually settled for my UK credit report. With all the expense of buying a car (necessary for my work), moving here, furnishing an apartment etc, this was another kick in the teeth. Therefore, I'm not expecting miracles from them but I'd appreciate any advice you might have on this.
My move to Canada was unexpected due to being offered a job here out of the blue - I had 3 months from inception to completion. Unfortunately the debt was necessary to avoid having to sell my flat in with negative equity - it was unrentable in its previous state as I bought it as a project 2 years ago, but now unfortunately it's worth only about 80% of what I paid for it.
Hoping you can advise! Thanks,
BritinCanada