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Skimom Jun 21st 2010 9:58 am

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To update our situation: after some exhausting and stressful weeks gathering relevant documents and information I am pleased to say that I have a package to go to CIC in the morning! Hopefully, we will hear positive news very soon!:fingerscrossed::fingerscrossed: Thank you to everyone who has given advice and support since I first posted about this case!:)

Falcore Jun 22nd 2010 3:41 am

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:fingerscrossed: you hear some good news soon Skimom! :D

Scotty boy Jun 22nd 2010 6:40 am

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Our son was born with Hydrocephaleus and had a shunt installed at birth i mentioned to the doctor during the medical and he said if he hadnt had any trouble since it shouldnt be a problem and it wasnt:thumbsup:

debbiem Jun 22nd 2010 2:21 pm

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good luck skimom - it can be a bit of a wait now though as the file will whizz off to Ottawa for specialist medical opinion... hopefully you will get positive news soon :D

Robin (The Gadget family) Jun 22nd 2010 5:28 pm

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:fingerscrossed::fingerscrossed: for you Skimom

Gray C Jun 22nd 2010 8:23 pm

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Originally Posted by Skimom (Post 8546878)
Hello all!

I do hope someone can help me and share their experiences with us. We received a brown envelope this morning but instead of a PPR as expected, it turned out to be a really horrible letter informing us that though they haven't yet made a decision on us immigrating and they don't think our son should be let in!

He has dyspraxia and mild Asperger's. He has no problems really with day-to-day life, is in an ordinary state secondary with no extra help. He has no health needs. Most people would not notice anything different about him, other than he has really messy, large handwriting and doesn't like football or pop music! Other than that, he is a pretty normal soon-to-be-teenage boy!

Has anyone else had the same problems getting in in this situation? What did you do? We have 60 days to present further information supporting our case. I am posting on here and contacting anyone and everyone I can think of who could write a supporting statement. Starting, funnily enough, with the Canadian school he attended for 3 years when he was younger.

Would love to hear from anyone who can offer any words of support or encouragement. Thank you so much!

:fingerscrossed:

We know what you are going through. Our daughter was turned down because she was voluntarily taking growth hormone (under a Consultant at Alder Hey Hospital). Unfortunately, our appeal was unsuccessful and she was refused a landing visa, which later turned into a lifelong ban to enter Canada for holidays etc.

Sorry to be the bearer of not so positive news, but please be aware that CIC are very ruthless and there is a distinct chance that your son will be refused a visa

castra Jun 22nd 2010 9:33 pm

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Originally Posted by Gray C (Post 8650808)
We know what you are going through. Our daughter was turned down because she was voluntarily taking growth hormone (under a Consultant at Alder Hey Hospital). Unfortunately, our appeal was unsuccessful and she was refused a landing visa, which later turned into a lifelong ban to enter Canada for holidays etc.

Sorry to be the bearer of not so positive news, but please be aware that CIC are very ruthless and there is a distinct chance that your son will be refused a visa

As a Father who raised a son who was diagnosed with Asperger's syndrome at at early age, I can so sympathise with both predicaments. I know nothing of the second scenario mentioned & what the 'issue's' may be, but both cases bring to light the ignorance many people in have of certain 'conditions'.

Highly upsetting when you & your families future could be decided by some faceless public sector worker who's 'only following the rules' made by some other government supremo who's taken advice from somebody even higher up the chain who may know nothing whatsoever about that condition.

The very name 'Asperger's syndrome' can conjure up images of some awful disease to those who don't know better. People with Aspergers may sometimes be 'different' but they're NOT a drain on resources usually.

Some so called experts are little better when it comes to assisting kids with Aspergers. Many years ago when my son was around 4 years old, he was referred to a speech therapist at the local hospital. I was told after assessment, it was unlikely my son would ever go to mainstream school & I should consider a 'special needs school'. It was a grim picture painted for my sons future with plenty of negative scenario's.

My son is now about to commence his second year at University having done remarkably well at high school & 6th form college. He was quite the 'burden' on 'services'?!

Gray C Jun 22nd 2010 10:09 pm

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CIC make very rash and unfathomable decisions based upon on a fraction of the facts of the individual in question

The bottom line with them is, if they think the applicant is going to be a burden on the canadian Medical or social services they will refuse the visa.

They are prats one and all and to fight their decision is almost impossible from my own experience :frown:

Skimom Jun 23rd 2010 12:10 am

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Thanks for all responses! It's clear to anyone who reads the paperwork that there is no "excessive demand" at all! We would be happy to appear for interview so they could see there is no problem - even the DMP at our medical said he wouldn't have known if we hadn't mentioned it! Obviously we did have to mention it - particularly as have lived in Canada before - but anyway, I shall try not to think about it all for now, I think I've had enough stress to last me a lifetime!

dbd33 Jun 23rd 2010 12:13 am

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Originally Posted by castra (Post 8650920)
My son is now about to commence his second year at University having done remarkably well at high school & 6th form college. He was quite the 'burden' on 'services'?!

A few points here:

- what percentage of children diagnosed as being on the spectrum perform so well academically? If the percentage is not high the Canadians are justified in refusing all such children; there are plenty of potential immigrants who don't have children who may be a burden.

- a stellar academic performance is not a solid indicator that someone will not be a burden on society. One might even say that good academic performance is a hallmark of Asperger's, it doesn't follow that a good student will be a functioning member of society.

- Canada is not an ideal country in which to be disabled. Parents of spectrum children would do well to consider the facilities that might be available to their children in both countries when those children are adults and the parents are dead.

Skimom Jun 23rd 2010 12:33 am

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Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 8651297)
A few points here:

- what percentage of children diagnosed as being on the spectrum perform so well academically? If the percentage is not high the Canadians are justified in refusing all such children; there are plenty of potential immigrants who don't have children who may be a burden.

- a stellar academic performance is not a solid indicator that someone will not be a burden on society. One might even say that good academic performance is a hallmark of Asperger's, it doesn't follow that a good student will be a functioning member of society.

- Canada is not an ideal country in which to be disabled. Parents of spectrum children would do well to consider the facilities that might be available to their children in both countries when those children are adults and the parents are dead.



There are great misconceptions regarding the autistic spectrum - it covers a vast array of children, all of whom are different. The Canadians are legally obliged to consider each case individually, which they do. If a person can live an independent life then there is obviously no problem now or in the future. It is wrong to think of all ASD children as being the same, ie to look at the worst-case scenario and think they all fit that description. They don't!

I wouldn't consider ASD children to be "disabled", the vast majority are maybe "different" to the "norm" (whatever that it) but they are not really going to stand out in the society as being different.

Indeed, it is anticipated by specialists in this field that Asperger's will be eliminated in the new DSM V Diagnostic Index (in the next 1 - 2 years) and there will be criteria for actually identifying the level of severity of symptoms within the autistic spectrum.

dbd33 Jun 23rd 2010 12:40 am

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Originally Posted by Skimom (Post 8651365)
There are great misconceptions regarding the autistic spectrum

I daresay there are. I don't think I'm labouring under any of them.


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