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Hang on...is this for a year, or did you add an extra zero to the monthly cost? If it's for a year, then that's fair enough.

If it's for a month, first of all I would have my eyes checked and/or my head examined, then I would skip paying that for a year and invest the money saved in some surgery. Same result, much less sweating.

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Good luck in the summer though without any AC ;)

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Just buy a fan or a dehumidifier.

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Here are some.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datab...cience-reading

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Stats, schmats. If the OP hates it then the best thing to do is to leave surely. Isn't this obvious to everyone?

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No, not after only ten days. Hes clearly still finding his feet if hes paying $800 for a gym and $200 to a dentist, and $9 for cerial. Hell, Id hate it too if that was how I was being fleeced, but that doesnt sound representative of canadian living to me.

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Maybe they emigrated for all the wrong reasons? Maybe reality didn't match the "dream"? Maybe they just know it's not for them and it took the actual move to realise it?

The problem is, if they have jobs to go back to, great friends and family, and were happy there in the first place, why not chalk it up to experience and use it as a platform to find contentment where it was all along?

I do agree that 8 days is a short amount of time but sometimes you just know and if you're in an unhappy mindset it may be tough to get out of, hence looking at mundane things in a critically exaggerated way.

To the OP, there's nothing wrong with going home. Staying is a big gamble both financially and emotionally. If you're not comfortable gambling with your savings and your emotional well-being, i think you know what the answer is. I also think you know what the answer is already if i'm reading between the lines correctly.

Also, if you meet anybody that mentions the "what if's", punch them in the face for me.

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Understatement.

So much information is available before you immigrate now on the Web - job availability and wage ranges, MLS house listings, Realtors will put you on their Private Listings e-mails so that you can see houses that fit your criteria, Google maps and Streetview to see the actual neighbourhoods, shopping sites to see costs of goods and a recce trip or two would have sorted out any other misconceptions.
Not only that but you also have the benefit of a brother who already lives here to give you any other information you needed.....

Looking at the points you make about house prices etc, makes me wonder what research you actually did do.
Presumably there was a point at which you had some good reason to believe that you could make a success of it here in Canada and be happy?
If so, what were those reasons and were they still valid by the time you actually came to leave the UK, which was clearly some time later?

It seems to me from what you have said that you jumped into coming out here with no preparation just because your PR was about to run out.
If you left it that long, maybe you didn't really want to come in the first place?

But to move on, I think if you are going to make a proper go of this now you need to make a mental commitment to it and adopt a positive, long term attitude .
Your issues are not going to be resolved overnight.
As Aviator said, success will take time here but will come eventually if you persevere.

If you are not prepared to invest that time making it work here or you still have doubts about whether you will ever like it here, then I think you would be best to go back to the UK now while your jobs are still open and it is still the same place you left.
It is unfortunate, but now I think you are in a position in which you really do have to make a decision in a short space of time if you want to slot back into the UK where you were. IMHO only, of course.

I agree with el_richo on this. It isn't a failure to want to go back and it is OK to change your mind, so you must do what is best for you.

I really hope you work it out to a good result, whatever you decide.
Best wishes :fingerscrossed:

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Then there are posters like Julius Smith, or Glaswegian, who would have left on the first plane. One is back in the UK, trying now to get back to Vancouver, and the other everything fell into place at once and he has settled happily in Calgary after hating the GTA.

The truth is, none of us can say what is best for the OP. Sometimes it takes time, sometimes it doesnt help. Personal circumstances and motivations are going to weigh into any decision that they make, and all we can do is try and help with the day to day issues and local knowledge of an area, or life here as a british immigrant, and at least help them make as informed a decision as possible. Life isnt a game.

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I don't have an opinion on whether or not the OP should stay in Canada or go back to the UK.

It is just that if someone says that in their opinion winters in Winnipeg are quite balmy it is reasonable to point out that the stats suggest that it is brass monkeys.

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So you agree with my post then ;)

This is a bit like Bullseye. Do they go with what they know is there for the taking, or do they gamble in which they could lose everything or get a speedboat?

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I confess to skim reading the entire thread and missed that you were replying to dollface rather than making a general point about the greatness of Canada's education system. So apologies.

I guess I think that life's to short to mess about doing things you hate. What's the point of that?

And I think you can know after 10 days - or at least have a good indication. I'm 100% with el_richo on this: if the OP hates it and it's currently easy for them to go back then they should go back. Don't wait 6 months to find you still hate it, but going back is much more difficult. No shame at all in doing that, as hating something is not the same as failing at something.

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Eloquently put. Its their call, all we can do is try to make it an informed decision.

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Having thought it was worth doing the paperwork and putting their life on hold waiting for PR, I suspect that they must have had some reason to think it worth doing in the first place, dont you? In which case its worth investing a bit of time here to see how it pans out after the initial stresses and confusions.


I cant speak for anyone else, but my first weeks here were a blur, I had little idea at all what I was doing or how things worked. But Im glad I stuck it out. Granted, having a job was the key, so maybe the OP should just focus on that.

Some idiot here keeps posting that a happily employed immigrant is a happy immigrant, and an unhappilly employed immigrant is an unhappy immigrant.

Cracking the labour market is the first step, then you can make an informed decision where to live and start to have a more normal social life too. Thats not going to happen in ten days for most people.

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You may be right and that all they need is jobs and they will see things differently when they have an income. It's not the impression I got from the first post though.

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I definitely agree with the highlighted section.

I do believe some people emigrate for the wrong reasons and/or had misaligned dreams. Who knows if this is the OP.

Ultimately, information can only go so far (and other than locations, most things will be subjective information). The OP's risk aversion is the key.

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That some idiot keeps posting it, or that immigrants need a decent job to be happy...:unsure::o

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The speedboat was never won, they only brought it out when people lost. The winning prize was always a trip to Butlins, was it not?:p

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I suppose Butlins would be more practical after they go home to their two up two down terrace in Birmingham.

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Wasn't the consolation prize Bully the Bender?

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Dusty Bin's cousin?

My two happeth on this whole happy/miserable argument: people seem to take their state of mind with them from country to country (I've lived in 4 so I have some perspective on this) and no amount of planning (or indeed lack of planning) for a move make much difference to that. I'm in Canada more or less by random chance but, as I've said before, I really like it here and can't see myself moving anywhere else. The OP is here after much planning and is likely to go back. That's just the way the cookie crumbles.

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Kanata looks spaced out to me, I'd live there...

http://homes.point2.com/CA/Ontario/O...al-Estate.aspx

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I thought the budget was $600,000.

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I'm sure I saw somebody win it once. Not that it matters, speedboats are a liability - you'd want to sell the thing immediately and then use the money for beer and (if you really fancied a go on a boat) rentals.

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Noting the contestants on Bullseye I would have thought pigeons, whippets and brown ale would have been the order of the day.

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Looks like this thread is drifting a bit.:p

I am not sure it has anything much to do with house prices anyway.
That is just one of a list of things that the OP didn't know about before they arrived and which have come as a disappointment to them.

Going from what appears to have happened on this forum in the past, usually when people have a long list of issues like that, especially things that either
a)they could have quite easily found out about before they arrived
or
b) that could be overcome with a combination of time, effort and determination
or
c) things that are inconsequential and easy to solve, such as the price of one brand of cereal,

there are other reasons under the surface which are harder to put into words.

To have done little or no research, to not have sorted out a job or even researched salaries or standard of living (which the OP states as important in her post), apparently not to have done any recce trips, to have waited until the last gasp of the PR validity and then to rush over unprepared.......

To me, that speaks of at the very least a certain reluctance to engage with the process and almost setting it up to not work out.

I suspect the OP knows what they want to do about this already, as many of us do when we post on here asking for advice:p.

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It's Friday afternoon, its pissing it down and I suspect most on here are distressingly sober at this moment so I can't see many threads staying on topic. :(

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All the clichés have been done already. Adding more or saying them in different ways would just be boring.

Its just a dilema probably a lot of people face and some have gone back some have stayed. As you say its only a decision I can make - I just dont want to make the wrong one (again) and part of me feels its better to make the decision now rather than later.

Do you just know its not going to be right for you in an area and then try moving somewhere else then somewhere else over and over? or do you just realise that what you had back in the UK was pretty darn good (see my previous posts) and the fact that after such a short amount of time you can go back and slot back in comfortably without even knowing you have been away?

I will go back to the UK settle in, never complain, realise my husband is right!! (dont tell him I said that) and just get back to what I know. Yes I didnt research the area quite enough and yes I was wearing rose tinted spectactles though I blame the process for taking so long. When I first applied I wasnt married, didnt want to be settled, didnt care about finances, didnt want children etc etc. My family have put a lot of pressure on me to move here saying how wonderful it is and how awful the UK is etc etc.

Anyways I appreciate all your feedback but when you know you know and I need to do whats right for myself and my husband. Wish us luck lol

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I do wish you the best of luck.

It takes a lot to apply and go through the emigration process, especially when it is so long and circumstances change so much while it is going through that what you were/had when it began can bear no relation to the situation when it finally ends.
But you have invested so much time and money in it all that it can seem almost impossible to turn round and say that it was a mistake.
Lots of people on this forum have done that, though and soul-searched for a long time over it.
I am sure that some of them would say now that should have just trusted their feelings and gone back at the start.

Don't listen to other people, even family, who tell you that the UK/Canada is great/rubbish.
They are living their own life, not yours.

If you do go back to the UK and all this has done is make you content with where you were in the first place then that is a good enough reason to have done it.
You can turn to your family and say that you tried it and Canada isn't right for you but the UK is and that's all that matters. They can ask no more of you than you made the effort.

I hope everything works out for you.:fingerscrossed:

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Good luck

Hopefully this'll be a wake-up call for many on here who have tunnel vision.

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That home is about a 20 minute drive north of Highway 417 and probably 40 minutes in non rush hour driving to downtown.

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thanks helcat12 you summed it up really. All that matters is my own happiness. Therefore today I have booked flights to go back on Monday, put in an offer on a house in the UK, my husband has accepted his old job back and life should soon be back to what we know of happiness! Everyone has their own oppinions and it hasnt been easy for us over the last 12 months. I will just be glad when its all over!

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It isn't indecisive to change your mind but it isn't tunnel vision to stick to your guns.
There is something to be said for being committed to a course of action and seeing it through.

I met two blokes at the IELTS who had both applied for Immigration to Canada before through FSW Cat 1 and both had let it lapse.
One of them had let it lapse TWICE and was on his third go.:confused:
There is nothing to recommend acting with this sort of flighty mentality.

However, that is not to be confused with changing your mind for a good reason as a result of further information or experience.

I think it is important to keep reassessing your situation as you go along in this process, especially as it takes a while.
Don't feel you have to stick with it if it isn't right, but don't let some difficulties or bad feelings put you off if you still feel it is right for you.

It is hard to know when to be tenacious and work through issues and when to take the loss and call it a day.
Once you get to a certain age, I think everyone can identify a time when they made the wrong call so we've all made mistakes.

This process is hard and all sorts of emotions come into play, both bad ones and good ones.
It isn't easy to know when those are going to be feelings that will pass or things that will stay and get stronger.

Perhaps we should have some syndromes to make it sound sciencey;

Pre Permanent Residency Tension PPRT

and Post Permanent Residency Depression PPRD

Having only been here 3 weeks myself, I am expecting to be even more emotionally unstable than usual for a while. (Lord help my husband.:ohmy:)

I hope the OP and anyone else who feels the same makes the right choice and that everything turns out well.
If not, they can always come back again.

It's been done:eek:

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WOW, now that is decisive!:thumbsup:

All the best to you and your husband will be very happy to know that he was right all along.

Don't let it go to his head, though;)
Best of luck:)

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I think you misunderstood me.

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WOW that was quick! lol
Where did you live in the UK?
Good luck and I hope you are happy :)

I wish we would've gone back after a year here, but we stuck it out and 4 years later we are stuck here until my eldest finishes school in 2 years time.

Oh well, alot can happen in 2 years :eek:

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Sorry if I did so:o

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Thanks for the warning.

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:rofl:
It's fine - it isn't a Full Moon this week :eek: