Have you ever been asked to repay your EI?
Jan 27th 2016, 6:46 pm
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Re: Have you ever been asked to repay your EI?
Only since I left. 
Social Assistance seems a tough nut to crack initially. Rules have historically been very tight. The whole thing seems to be far more demeaning than even National Assistance ever was in the UK.
There's some variation province to province but I believe claiming while living in your own property over a certain value isn't allowed.
Others in the household are involved in the means assessment. This isn't the only province that identifies an incredibly tight 'needs' level for the whole household, has regard to the income and bank accounts of others and then pays whatever might be due (if anything) to the person claiming.
No rent allowance as such, just a contribution if it's a disproportionate amount of the welfare level.
For those that think I've had a low income, take a look at Social Assistance levels.
Case in the paper only last week. Divorced woman in her 50s lives in her own mobile home in a shocking repair state, no electric or water, using an old wreck of a wood stove that's obviously a fire hazzard and sleeps in about three layers of clothes.
She's on the maximum $532 a month. That's what she'd get in a bedsit or in a rooming house.
Imagine a sibling falls into difficulty. You're willing to help out by putting them up but for them to have their own income - as low as it would be - you have to divulge all your financial details, sign stuff to agree they can check your details and after all that, if you're on an ordinary sort of wage, they won't be due anything.
So now you're providing everything for them or not.
For some, the debt might be easier.
Social Assistance seems a tough nut to crack initially. Rules have historically been very tight. The whole thing seems to be far more demeaning than even National Assistance ever was in the UK.
There's some variation province to province but I believe claiming while living in your own property over a certain value isn't allowed.
Others in the household are involved in the means assessment. This isn't the only province that identifies an incredibly tight 'needs' level for the whole household, has regard to the income and bank accounts of others and then pays whatever might be due (if anything) to the person claiming.
No rent allowance as such, just a contribution if it's a disproportionate amount of the welfare level.
For those that think I've had a low income, take a look at Social Assistance levels.
Case in the paper only last week. Divorced woman in her 50s lives in her own mobile home in a shocking repair state, no electric or water, using an old wreck of a wood stove that's obviously a fire hazzard and sleeps in about three layers of clothes.
She's on the maximum $532 a month. That's what she'd get in a bedsit or in a rooming house.
Imagine a sibling falls into difficulty. You're willing to help out by putting them up but for them to have their own income - as low as it would be - you have to divulge all your financial details, sign stuff to agree they can check your details and after all that, if you're on an ordinary sort of wage, they won't be due anything.
So now you're providing everything for them or not.
For some, the debt might be easier.
After my EI ran out I had zero income for months. Because I had equity in my house (owned) - despite the fact that I couldn't release it as I had only bought the damn thing 4 months earlier - and because my son worked (even though he wasn't earning a lot at the time) I couldn't claim a penny. If it hadn't been for a friendly bank associate who gave me a line of credit, despite not having a job, I would have ended up on the street.
I ended up doing the 'self employment scheme' retraining program just to have some income coming in as despite applying for everything and anything I could possibly do, I couldn't get hired anywhere.
It was a dark and gloomy period, I have to say.
Jan 27th 2016, 6:54 pm
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Re: Have you ever been asked to repay your EI?
Its insurance not a naffing savings account.
Jan 27th 2016, 7:36 pm
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Re: Have you ever been asked to repay your EI?
Jan 27th 2016, 9:19 pm
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Re: Have you ever been asked to repay your EI?
Because healthy people, especially younger people with no dependents, shouldn't be claiming welfare but I see it all the time in Canada, its disgraceful. There are plenty of jobs in Canada and yes, it might mean you have to leave the sanctuary of that five mile radius of where you were born.
Used my EI to get pissed everyday and watch the World Cup.
Jan 27th 2016, 9:22 pm
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Jan 28th 2016, 1:52 pm
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Re: Have you ever been asked to repay your EI?
Are there no prisons?
What about the workhouses, are they still in operation?
The treadmill, the poorhouses, still in full vigour?
What about the workhouses, are they still in operation?
The treadmill, the poorhouses, still in full vigour?
Jan 28th 2016, 4:16 pm
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Jan 28th 2016, 5:02 pm
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Re: Have you ever been asked to repay your EI?
Jan 28th 2016, 5:55 pm
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Re: Have you ever been asked to repay your EI?
Jan 29th 2016, 8:43 pm
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Jan 29th 2016, 8:53 pm
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Re: Have you ever been asked to repay your EI?
Jan 30th 2016, 3:50 am
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Re: Have you ever been asked to repay your EI?
Employment Insurance Regular Benefits - Service Canada
You may not be entitled to receive EI regular benefits if you:
voluntarily left your employment without just cause;
were dismissed for misconduct; or
are unemployed because you are directly participating in a labour dispute (strike, lockout, or other type of dispute).
voluntarily left your employment without just cause;
were dismissed for misconduct; or
are unemployed because you are directly participating in a labour dispute (strike, lockout, or other type of dispute).
