Going Home
#61
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Joined: Aug 2013
Location: Maple Ridge, Super Natural British Columbia
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Re: Going Home
The winter we were there, if it was socked-in with an inversion (common in Kelowna), it was an unpleasant kind of cold.
Getting out of the truck for a pee on the Okanagan Connector at -32C wasn't pleasant either. Me, not the wife!
Or driving the Coq in the dark in those conditions or a snowstorm. Come in Jamie Davies....
My Land Rover didn't need a block heater, it needed a BATTERY heater....
Getting out of the truck for a pee on the Okanagan Connector at -32C wasn't pleasant either. Me, not the wife!
Or driving the Coq in the dark in those conditions or a snowstorm. Come in Jamie Davies....
My Land Rover didn't need a block heater, it needed a BATTERY heater....
Last edited by withabix; May 25th 2016 at 9:57 pm.
#63
Re: Going Home
The winter we were there, if it was socked-in with an inversion (common in Kelowna), it was an unpleasant kind of cold.
Getting out of the truck for a pee on the Okanagan Connector at -32C wasn't pleasant either. Me, not the wife!
Or driving the Coq in the dark in those conditions or a snowstorm. Come in Jamie Davies....
My Land Rover didn't need a block heater, it needed a BATTERY heater....
Getting out of the truck for a pee on the Okanagan Connector at -32C wasn't pleasant either. Me, not the wife!
Or driving the Coq in the dark in those conditions or a snowstorm. Come in Jamie Davies....
My Land Rover didn't need a block heater, it needed a BATTERY heater....
#65
Re: Going Home
I think that's rather a waste of company funds, economy will do. I don't imagine any H&S bollocks can apply as, when flying, one is not in a fixed jurisdiction.
#66
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Posts: 1,232
Re: Going Home
The creator/owner of IKEA supposedly always flies economy class and I believe I once read that the same rule is applied to all employees of the corporation. If employees wanted to fly business class then the fare difference was on their dime.
#67
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 12,830
Re: Going Home
You are in the jurisdiction of the register the aircraft is on. Canadian registered - Canadian regs and laws apply when in the air. Some international laws apply too.
Otherwise you'd have all sorts of shit going on when an a/c is in international airspace.
Otherwise you'd have all sorts of shit going on when an a/c is in international airspace.
#68
Re: Going Home
Salaried employees may have a statement like 'should expect to travel abroad with overnight stays' and this can be exploited by some to ensure substandard accomodation and economy flights for long distance travel. I have witnessed many struggles between employees who have been forced, against written company procedures, to endure repeated long distance flights in cattle class.
Long distance travel for work, with its endless boring transfers in numerous airports, endless unexpected delays, nights in lonely hotels and anonymous contacts is not an enjoyable employment experience.
I knew of one technical service representative who became indispensible to his company. His area of support covered the entire globe. Over the years his extent of flying earned him a lifetime platinum card with KLM. Yet, his MD, flying business class wherever he went, denied this employee business class travel even though it was clearly stated in company procedures that flights over so many hours allowed use of business class travel. I never failed to wonder why he stayed with the company.
#69
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Joined: Jul 2012
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Re: Going Home
I don't know about Canadian law but in UK if you travel for work then UK health and safety regulations apply and your employer is meant to make sure that your working environment complies with those regulations.
#70
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Location: Whitby, Ontario
Posts: 730
Re: Going Home
Warning - thread drift😉
#71
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Joined: Mar 2010
Location: SW Calgary
Posts: 776
Re: Going Home
I'm more than happy to stay at home with my friends and family thanks. Want me to cart all over the globe for your profit? Then you'll ensure it's done with some degree of comfort.
That said, after a while, even the business class flights, airport lounges, 5 star hotels, fancy restaurants etc don't make up for the lost time with family and friends. I used to spend 3 weeks out of 4 away from home travelling all over for work. Never again.
#72
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Location: Calgary
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Re: Going Home
WeeWifey.
I'm still in the UK and looking to Calgary. I appreciate your post because it has highlighted your experience and it's good to read experiences from people who haven't liked it and their reasoning why. I'll definitely be making detailed notes on costs for comparison when I take my trip.
Thank you and I hope you and your family find happiness back home.
I'm still in the UK and looking to Calgary. I appreciate your post because it has highlighted your experience and it's good to read experiences from people who haven't liked it and their reasoning why. I'll definitely be making detailed notes on costs for comparison when I take my trip.
Thank you and I hope you and your family find happiness back home.
#73
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Joined: Oct 2010
Location: A Briton, married to a Canadian, now in Fredericton.
Posts: 4,854
Re: Going Home
I could write this exact post except it's been 5months for us and I'm a few hours north of you in St. Albert.
Living costs are transpiring to be lots more than uk for us and we are down to 1 salary. I
can't find a job, childcare for 2 is going to be 2-2500 plus after school for #3 limits what I can apply for.
I hate not having a job and it's making home life pretty hellish because I am feeling so demoralized, unworthy and useless.
I totally get your frustrations with grocery shopping - I hate it now, used to quite enjoy it. And I resent that I pay a lot for poor quality fresh food (I know, seasons and transport mean it's not going to be the same as uk before anyone jumps on me).
I am finding acquaintances to be quite rude and unfriendly, my neighbour told me last week they were "glad the previous tenants had left, they should have gone back to the trailer park where they belonged" - I just can't get on with comments such as this being acceptable to make.
The local kids are culturally much more abrasive and brash, and my kids really hate that, they will regularly come off the playground and ask to go home because other kids are pushing/not taking turns/saying horrible things- thy probably aren't, just culture deems it acceptable here but not in the uk.
I guess, I'm really finding the culture differences so big (and It has blindsided me) that I'm having to compromise on my own views and morals and that's something I am finding very hard to accept.
As you can probably tell, I am struggling to find any positives about living here currently! I'm sure there are some but for now I'm still wallowing in what I have lost.
If you can stick it out for a few months at least I really would, my rollercoaster did improve for a few months in the middle but am now back down and will be needing to decide on my fate in the next 6 weeks or so (other elements at play mean a time limit forcing this). Feel free to pm me and we can wallow together!
Worth checking in on the moving back to the uk section.
Living costs are transpiring to be lots more than uk for us and we are down to 1 salary. I
can't find a job, childcare for 2 is going to be 2-2500 plus after school for #3 limits what I can apply for.
I hate not having a job and it's making home life pretty hellish because I am feeling so demoralized, unworthy and useless.
I totally get your frustrations with grocery shopping - I hate it now, used to quite enjoy it. And I resent that I pay a lot for poor quality fresh food (I know, seasons and transport mean it's not going to be the same as uk before anyone jumps on me).
I am finding acquaintances to be quite rude and unfriendly, my neighbour told me last week they were "glad the previous tenants had left, they should have gone back to the trailer park where they belonged" - I just can't get on with comments such as this being acceptable to make.
The local kids are culturally much more abrasive and brash, and my kids really hate that, they will regularly come off the playground and ask to go home because other kids are pushing/not taking turns/saying horrible things- thy probably aren't, just culture deems it acceptable here but not in the uk.
I guess, I'm really finding the culture differences so big (and It has blindsided me) that I'm having to compromise on my own views and morals and that's something I am finding very hard to accept.
As you can probably tell, I am struggling to find any positives about living here currently! I'm sure there are some but for now I'm still wallowing in what I have lost.
If you can stick it out for a few months at least I really would, my rollercoaster did improve for a few months in the middle but am now back down and will be needing to decide on my fate in the next 6 weeks or so (other elements at play mean a time limit forcing this). Feel free to pm me and we can wallow together!
Worth checking in on the moving back to the uk section.
Wee wifey we all of us respect your need to do the best for your family. I think those of us who suggested that you try it for a bit longer were only remembering what an awful great battle it was to get here in the first place. Getting my kid, dog and cats and home here nearly cost me my sanity....and I chose 'the quick way' and married a Canadian! How some of the posters on here ever have the true grit that is needed to get here, regularly amazes me
Working practices here frequently suck and there is little or no workers protection and the vacation time is risible.
If you do decide to go back, very best of luck, hope all goes well
#74
Re: Going Home
Well, yes, criminal laws, but Health and Safety regulations? (Note that I think H&S regulations for white collar workers are, by and large, nonsense on the ground anyway; I won't prosecute if you wear Brut).
Last edited by dbd33; May 26th 2016 at 12:10 pm.
#75
Re: Going Home
I side with them over pampered, uncommitted, employees, yes.
See, never happy. I was glad, thrilled, to be pretzeled in the back of aeroplanes for days on end for the good of the corporation.
See, never happy. I was glad, thrilled, to be pretzeled in the back of aeroplanes for days on end for the good of the corporation.