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babyblue Jan 18th 2006 4:28 am

Re: Glad to be back
 

Originally Posted by val50
Dear Shelly
glad you made it back. We have been in Canada (Halifax) about 7 weeks now and would all leave if we could. We did everything we could to check everything out before my husband accepted his new job. As this was our 6th move in 25 years we thought we knew what we were doing. A 6 figure salary (double what he was earning in France) plus lots of perks, plus the challenge of a new environment was the main attraction, but we have honestly been shocked by what we have found here. The filth in the city, the beggars on all the corners, the high crime rate, high cost of living and the poor health care are things we could not have found out until we arrived. The fact I have 30 years experience as a trained nurse counts for nothing here. In fact, unless you have local qualifications nothing is accepted here. Letters from our banks in France and UK as well as our insurance companies are worthless. If it wasn't for my husbands new company helping us, I honestly don't know what we would have done. Maybe Canada is fine for a young couple starting out, looking for a bit of adventure etc, but for those with families, established elsewhere, I would say it really is not worth the effort of moving here.
I think you are very brave doing what you did. Most people find it difficult admitting they have made a mistake and moving back, and I really wish you and your family well in the future.

I tend to agree a little with your statment.
I am a single mum and sturggling here. I agree with the bit about being single. I think you could afford to be a little more flippant about things. I think i would be off with a backpack if i was single right now. But when you have finacial pressures and family,this is priority.
A friend of mine is a nurse in ICU here in toronto. She was lucky to land a good job.
I hate having to 'LIVE TO WORK' I should be 'WORKING TO LIVE'.
does not seem to be hapening to me. Not saying it is like that for everyone here but it definatly is harder with age.

Good luck for the future and i hope all turns around for you all.

scribe123 Jan 18th 2006 5:08 am

Re: Glad to be back
 
Hi val50,

I'm sorry to hear that things are not going well for you, but don't you think it's a but unfair to say it isn't worth it if you have a family?

My wife is also a nurse, but we are in contact with the nursing association to see how far her qualification does go, and if she will need to do any catch up study. Canada is a big place and there isn't a beggar on every street corner of every town or city in the country, not even in the province you live in.

Different people will have different experiences, and just because yours isn't a good one doesn't mean the next person's won't be good either. There are plenty of people who post here to prove that.

All that aside, it is good that you post experiences like yours here to give people researching a move and objective view. I wasn't thinking of going to Halifax, but if I was I now know it may not be the cleanest city in Canada.

Anyway, chin up and I hope things improve. Contact the nursing association in your province and find out how far your qualifications, study and time on the job does go. You may find you don't have to do that much catch up to get registered.

Try to stay positive :)

Chris


Originally Posted by val50
Dear Shelly
glad you made it back. We have been in Canada (Halifax) about 7 weeks now and would all leave if we could. We did everything we could to check everything out before my husband accepted his new job. As this was our 6th move in 25 years we thought we knew what we were doing. A 6 figure salary (double what he was earning in France) plus lots of perks, plus the challenge of a new environment was the main attraction, but we have honestly been shocked by what we have found here. The filth in the city, the beggars on all the corners, the high crime rate, high cost of living and the poor health care are things we could not have found out until we arrived. The fact I have 30 years experience as a trained nurse counts for nothing here. In fact, unless you have local qualifications nothing is accepted here. Letters from our banks in France and UK as well as our insurance companies are worthless. If it wasn't for my husbands new company helping us, I honestly don't know what we would have done. Maybe Canada is fine for a young couple starting out, looking for a bit of adventure etc, but for those with families, established elsewhere, I would say it really is not worth the effort of moving here.
I think you are very brave doing what you did. Most people find it difficult admitting they have made a mistake and moving back, and I really wish you and your family well in the future.


MikeUK Jan 18th 2006 5:32 am

Re: Glad to be back
 

Originally Posted by chrisparr
Canada is a big place and there isn't a beggar on every street corner of every town or city in the country, not even in the province you live in.
Chris

Its is a big place, and its largely rural and most of its is quite poor..

Ontario and Alberta could or would be considered the two provinces that actaullly make money and as a result they spend a significant amount of that money funding all the other provinces..

something to bare in mind...

shelly1 Jan 18th 2006 6:15 am

Re: Glad to be back
 
Hi to those who have replied to my thread
At first when we came back to the uk, i was so stressed, it was very hard, Had we done the right thing, then you read other threads saying stick it out, We, or more so I was in turmoil, i had a sister telling me told you so, it didn't help when she was the only person to stay with, the council told us because we had given up our rented home in canada we had made ourselves homeless and therefore not entitled to council accomodation, when we went to enquire about signing on we we're asked did we have work permits for working in the uk, you can't sign on you've given up your job. we we're gob smacked we'd only been out of the country 3 months, always worked and paid our taxes, and need help but really they did us a favour shutting the door in our faces, it made us stop feeling sorry for ourselves and get off our arses and get on with it, we both went back to the same companies cap in hand and got our contracts back, we rented a fully furnished house a bit smaller than we we're used to the kids have to share a room, but clean and near to school, we got one school place back for our eldest daughter which was a big relief as we'd taken her out of year 10 (gcse's) she went back to year 11, the school she's at we're fantastic, she's just done her moc exam's and got 2 A*s 2 A's 2B's and a C, I'm very proud. we had to wait for our youngest a school place at the same school she started back 3rd Jan, we applied for a mortgage and they looked at us as if we we're criminals, where have we been they can't trace us on the electoral roll, why have we been out of the country, what did we do with our money from the house sale, well we'll give you 90% mortgage, so we gave it up as a bad job and today we've been accepted for a mortgage, so in the three months we've been home we've had peaks and troughs, we got our pooch back last weekend so the family is once again complete and everyday is getting better it is frightening at first it does get better but we're still all happy to be back home, time's a great healer, canada isn't a regert, it's an experiance we had, and now we're back to normality.

scribe123 Jan 18th 2006 6:56 am

Re: Glad to be back
 
Hi Shelly,

Glad to hear things are returning to a version of normal. I'm sure you didn't need the "I told you so" comments, so save those up for a rainy day ;)

Chris


Originally Posted by shelly1
Hi to those who have replied to my thread
At first when we came back to the uk, i was so stressed, it was very hard, Had we done the right thing, then you read other threads saying stick it out, We, or more so I was in turmoil, i had a sister telling me told you so, it didn't help when she was the only person to stay with, the council told us because we had given up our rented home in canada we had made ourselves homeless and therefore not entitled to council accomodation, when we went to enquire about signing on we we're asked did we have work permits for working in the uk, you can't sign on you've given up your job. we we're gob smacked we'd only been out of the country 3 months, always worked and paid our taxes, and need help but really they did us a favour shutting the door in our faces, it made us stop feeling sorry for ourselves and get off our arses and get on with it, we both went back to the same companies cap in hand and got our contracts back, we rented a fully furnished house a bit smaller than we we're used to the kids have to share a room, but clean and near to school, we got one school place back for our eldest daughter which was a big relief as we'd taken her out of year 10 (gcse's) she went back to year 11, the school she's at we're fantastic, she's just done her moc exam's and got 2 A*s 2 A's 2B's and a C, I'm very proud. we had to wait for our youngest a school place at the same school she started back 3rd Jan, we applied for a mortgage and they looked at us as if we we're criminals, where have we been they can't trace us on the electoral roll, why have we been out of the country, what did we do with our money from the house sale, well we'll give you 90% mortgage, so we gave it up as a bad job and today we've been accepted for a mortgage, so in the three months we've been home we've had peaks and troughs, we got our pooch back last weekend so the family is once again complete and everyday is getting better it is frightening at first it does get better but we're still all happy to be back home, time's a great healer, canada isn't a regert, it's an experiance we had, and now we're back to normality.


Oxford Jan 20th 2006 8:40 pm

Re: Glad to be back
 
Hi Shelly

We were advised to look at your topic here and have read it with interest since we are about to embark on the same journey you describe, and in Saskatoon. So.. we are intrigued, if your hubby was earning £38k as a driver in the UK why did you want to leave in the first place? Also... where does your husband work now to take home £2,600 a month in the UK as I cannot get anywhere close to these figures down in Oxfordshire - so should I consider relocating to West Yorkshire instead!? Perhaps the Polish drivers have not reached the north of England yet as they take all the work/contracts for a £3.00 an hour.


Originally Posted by shelly1
My hubby brought £2.600 last month trucking in the uk for that he was home most nights maybe only 7 nights away, we now feel that our money goes a lot further than it did in canada, for those who say the cost of living is cheap over there, i have to disagree with you, it costs me £100 for a food shop each week in the uk, in canada it was costing me $200, A meal out in the uk costs £40 a pizza out in canada was costing $100 for 4 with tips, in the province we lived in you had the gst tax and pst tax which hiked your bill up when you came to check out every day things we're double the price of the uk, and the wages we're half sorry!!!!!!!


shelly1 Jan 20th 2006 9:03 pm

Re: Glad to be back
 
Hi my husband works for a chemical tanker firm on a six days on two days off shift 17 hours per day, he regularly brings home a very good wage as he works Saturday and Sunday and is away some nights,
If i have taken your reply the wrong way i apologise but i take from your posting and attitude you don't seem to like what you read in the thread, i am sorry if the post isn't to your liking, and what my husband earns upsets and offends you,
We hoped to have more time together, the better life for the kids, the bigger house, the better country but take it from someone amongst the many who has tried to live the dream, that dream isn't always all its made out to be, their's many families that have come back before and many will after us
As i have already said when you want to live the dream you will only believe what you want to believe
good luck in your new life
Shelly

australia to canada Jan 20th 2006 9:13 pm

Re: Glad to be back
 

Originally Posted by Oxford
Hi Shelly

drivers have not reached the north of England yet as they take all the work/contracts for a £3.00 an hour.

Which is above the going rate for many jobs in Canada!

You do seem rather down on the Uk, after reading your other post about hoodies etc in UK, fact is Canada has its bums too, plenty of down and outs and plenty of low wages. Do plenty of research and be aware of the ups and downs of anywhere!

nwtrucker Jan 20th 2006 9:26 pm

Re: Glad to be back
 

Originally Posted by shelly1
Hi my husband works for a chemical tanker firm on a six days on two days off shift 17 hours per day, he regularly brings home a very good wage as he works Saturday and Sunday and is away some nights,
If i have taken your reply the wrong way i apologise but i take from your posting and attitude you don't seem to like what you read in the thread, i am sorry if the post isn't to your liking, and what my husband earns upsets and offends you,
We hoped to have more time together, the better life for the kids, the bigger house, the better country but take it from someone amongst the many who has tried to live the dream, that dream isn't always all its made out to be, their's many families that have come back before and many will after us
As i have already said when you want to live the dream you will only believe what you want to believe
good luck in your new life
Shelly

Any jobs going!? I don't know of any driver taking that kind of money home without running bent. As far as I was aware you can do a maximum spread over of 15 hours twice a week. I am wondering how much 'quality' time you are spending together now. We are considering the implications of a move to sask. as we have relatives who moved out there 2 years ago and are loving it.
I suppose eveyone has there own views and expectations. I am working silly hours over here with all the extra stress (congestion,crime,tax etc.), so I can't help thinking what have we got to lose. Time will tell!

Oxford Jan 20th 2006 9:54 pm

Re: Glad to be back
 
Hi Shelly

I can understand now why your husband earns well in the UK doing approx 102 hours a week, I just hope I am not driving behind him in my lorry when he nods off! I am sure other drivers will agree on this.



Originally Posted by shelly1
Hi my husband works for a chemical tanker firm on a six days on two days off shift 17 hours per day, he regularly brings home a very good wage as he works Saturday and Sunday and is away some nights,
If i have taken your reply the wrong way i apologise but i take from your posting and attitude you don't seem to like what you read in the thread, i am sorry if the post isn't to your liking, and what my husband earns upsets and offends you,
We hoped to have more time together, the better life for the kids, the bigger house, the better country but take it from someone amongst the many who has tried to live the dream, that dream isn't always all its made out to be, their's many families that have come back before and many will after us
As i have already said when you want to live the dream you will only believe what you want to believe
good luck in your new life
Shelly


shelly1 Jan 20th 2006 10:13 pm

Re: Glad to be back
 
Yeah your right
Time will tell,
I remember reading a post on another site from another UK wife having moved to canada and moved straight back to the UK, i also thought that won't happen to us
Time will tell?
In all my posts I've never tried to dissuade anyone from taking that opportunity if offered, grab it with both hands
Just be care full,
and just for the record Oxford, as you will see when you arrive in canada you would be safer behind my husband on the UK roads than behind him working for some of the companies offering work in canada, why do you think the canadians won't do it?
i wish you well
Shelly

shelly1 Jan 20th 2006 11:40 pm

Re: Glad to be back
 
Sorry my mistake
causing a bit of uproar there
He works 5 on 3 off doing 80 hours a week which is considrably less than he was doing in Canada
my appologies, what do i know about driving tankers i just spend the money tee hee :)

beeginger Jan 21st 2006 12:47 am

Re: Glad to be back
 

Originally Posted by shelly1
Sorry my mistake
causing a bit of uproar there
He works 5 on 3 off doing 80 hours a week which is considrably less than he was doing in Canada
my appologies, what do i know about driving tankers i just spend the money tee hee :)

my husband is also a long haul driver here and earns nothing like shelly1 hubby and he drives container lorries all over , 5 nights away and 2 home and this is is the best pay hes ever been on. we also are emigrating on a PNP to winnipeg. we already have friends who have dont the same both to saskatoon and winnipeg and love it. because i cant work for a year im going to go on the runs with him all over America, away 7-8 days back 3 or we can choose to stay at the final destination for his rest days. We are not moving for a better life because we think its yourself and the people around you that counts. you can be a multimillionaire and be very unhappy or a dustman and be content. moving to canada shouldnt be just about money and im fed up of hearing people just whinging on abt the price of this that and the other. We want something different, somewhere different, with a different set of people and experiences. We seem in england to be so unhappy with our lot and think that everyone else has more or better than us and that the grass is always greener on the other side. remember please that i am only generalising and only speaking from my experience. we live in a fantastic place down in weymouth with good jobs, close family and good friends but thought that a t the end of the day its a big world out there but actually only hours away by plane so why not give it a try, as people have said we can always come back or move again. :eek:

shelly1 Jan 21st 2006 3:50 am

Re: Glad to be back
 
HI beeginger
you have to give it a go as was posted in the thread earlier.
we'd have been kicking ourselves in years to come if we'd not taken the chance of cause you have to take every opportunity in life, my god you only live once and we have to make the most of it, just be careful, don't put all your eggs in one basket, it will make it easier having someone to go out to, someone to show you the ropes. we we're totally on our own.
best wishes
Shelly



As for those of you that are getting upset over my husbands running time and earnings, No he's not running bent, never has never will, he's gone back hauling sulfuric acid which he is paid very well for and happened to be on rota for working over the christmas period!!!!! what with him being the new boy!!!!
But thankyou for your interest in the matter.

frankieforehead Jan 21st 2006 4:35 am

Re: Glad to be back
 
[QUOTE=shelly1you can't sign on you've given up your job.[/QUOTE]
It never ceases to amaze me...how someone not from the UK, ends up being better paid (in Benefits) than someone who has worked all their lives.

Anyway, hope you guys have settled back into your familiar surroundings.....You must of had some parties to blow your cash that quickly :D

Good Luck


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