Jen and rob

Hi every one, I am looking for some information / advice.

My hubby ( rob ) , my self ( jen ) and our 3 daughters ( 8,5 & 3 ) are looking to relocate for many different reasons.

Just some info about us...
Rob is qualified in the uk as a heating engineer/plumber, an electrician, also as a mechanic, so he has a few qualifications to work with, however I am not sure how " in demand " these qualifications are.
He also has a company in the uk that will keep trading and bringing in an income to us.

I have a degree in equine science and other various equine therapy qualifications ( I don't think this will hold up much hope in terms of getting a visa lol ! )

If any one has any info on wether it is worth trying to obtain a job offer, or would it be worth holding out until the "skilled worker" is re opened ?

Secondly we are from rural Norfolk and outdoorsy people that like to ride our horses when we can and looooove to ski / board , so would want to be close to these amenities ( although I under stand that a job offer would dictate the area )

I have not been to Canada ( hubby has and loves it ) I really like New Hampshire usa, but this is because I am familiar with the area . I am open to both and think a recce trip is definitely in order to weigh up both, however I would like to get as much info befor hand.

Any replies will be greatfully appreciated .
Jenny

christmasoompa

Hi, and welcome to BE.

Have you looked in to visas for the US at all? It's much tougher than canada to get in to, so you might not want to bother with the recce to New Hampshire!

But for Canada, have a look at the proposed changes to the FSW visa, as if your OH would qualify under them (points etc) that's going to be far and away your easiest option. Getting a job offer and LMO is likely to take you to January or beyond anyway, and as a FSW you'd get Permanent Residency rather than taking the risk if going over on a Temp Work Permit with kids.

HTH a bit, good luck.

Jen and rob

Thank you

I have looked into visas for the US...... Not impossible, but very tough to get in and lots of stories about people having to come back due to visa/green card problems.

The FSW does look like the best choice in turms of feeling a little bit more secure.
As it won't be open until early 2023 it will give us plenty of time for recce ( and may even get to chuck out selves of the side of a mountain for a few days )

If hubby qualifies for FSW will that enable me to work to? Or will I need a separate visa? Also how does it work for being self employed?

Thanks Jen

Oakvillian

I wouldn't discount the possibility that your equine thingamiwhatsits might help you get here - or at least might help you determine where to go once here, since making use of your skills is a bit more location-dependent than your OH's!

If you love to ski/board, the obvious place to start the search is in the West. There are some ski hills east of the Prairies, but unless you have good French I'd suggest the Laurentides are out, and the Ontario hills are a a bit of a joke compared to what's available in AB or BC.

For your recce, don't forget that it's almost as far again if not further from New Hampshire to the West coast as it is from the UK to NH. It's a big country!

There are a few horsy people on here. R I C H used to run a horse-based business; dbd33 kept, and hopes to keep again, a small menagerie of various four-legged beasties, some of which were by all accounts rideable. I know there are others who have horses and could probably give you a reasonable picture of the veterinary-therapeutic professions operate.

R I C H

That'd be me.

ninaDGBCA

Agree the Ontarion hills are nothing fancy but Mont Tremblant, QC is only about 2 hours from Ottawa, it's still not Whistler but defo not a joke . And New Hampshire is in driving distance ca 7h to Mount Washington.

dbd33

I did and, like so many horsekeepers, we ride more now while we don't have horses on the premises than when we did. This is a disastrous time for the horse industry in Ontario, the business depended on racetracks which we the only legal places to bet in much of the province, but the government has caved to casino proprietors and agreed to allow urban betting, killing off the racetracks and so the horse industry in the process. The only big equine business here just now is running a knacker's yard.

cornwall9

Jen, if your husband qualifies for the FSW route you will be able to work too as you would both be granted PR. Unfortunately, I don't know a thing about self-employment in Canada but I imagine you shouldn't have a problem with that at all. As far as i understand it (and please could someone correct me if I'm wrong?) PRs have pretty much the same rights with regards to work as citizens, so i can't see why you wouldn't be allowed to work self-employed.

james.mc

Also, it might be worth bearing in mind that if you get PR in Canada and settle in one area, but decide you want to move to another more (horsey, mountainy, snowy) part of Canada, you are free to do so. As a PR, gained under the FSW route, you are not tied to an employer or a particular part of the country.

Jen and rob

Thank you for all your replies.

That's sad

After a bit mor research BC looks like a good area to have a recce ,great skiing, seems to be allot of equine places.

Are there any no no areas? At the same time are there any better areas?

Jen and rob

Hi R I C H, if you don't mind me asking , was your equine business in BC? If so how successful was / is it?

Thanks Jen

ninaDGBCA

As a PR under any route you are no longer tied to an employer.
Also if you become PR as a Provincial Nominee you should try to settle in the Province that nominated you but if it doesn't work out here is no rule that you can't move once you've tried.

Almost Canadian

Lots of opportunities for work/pleasure for such activities in Alberta/B.C. Which would be best depends on your personal factors.

Alan2005

Can't they just bet on the same horse races then?

dbd33

My knowledge is limited, I have some friends who race horses but I don't bet.

However, as best I understand it, the money bet on the races at the track is neither here nor there. Punters in Ontario, who I assume from the signage at the tracks and on the buses, are nearly all Asian, bet on cards or at machines. It's not like Australia where they bet on horse races run at tracks with no audience but the other way around, horses are raced, that makes betting at the track legal but the horse races are, by and large, ignored by the people at the track. The government is shifting the locations of the betting, from tracks to casinos, for reasons relating to receipt of local tax revenues (and, I assume, because the members of government have been "got at"). An incidental consequence is that there'll be no reason to race horses anymore and so there's a glut of horses (even more of a glut than usual).

Quite which aspect of this mountain of sleaze is most offensive, I'm not sure. Loads of horses will be packed off to slaughter rather than getting a chance to race but they're massively overbred anyway; most go to slaughter. Breeders will go out of business but they overbred and inflict all manner of cruelty on their animals so it's hard to care. Racetrack owners? Well, if they're not the real mafia, they're some kind of mafia. I suppose the real losers will be American horses on "the bus to Canada" stuck in cattle trucks until the abbatoir has room for them.

Ugh. And horse racing is the kinder, gentler, face of the horse business. Show jumping people* are real shits.

*On edit: TWH people are even worse!