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Franchise - anyone bought one?
Hi,
I work in software (own small business) but I want to setup a franchise or something else (also considering renovation of properties) as I'm a service company with little income from products - therefore if anything happens to me the income will plummet. Has anyone on here bought a franchise? Good or bad idea? Was it worth it? Do you wish you'd just setup on your own with a new "brand"? I am considering Subway, Cash Converters or a hairdressers, I need something where I can work to set it up and then pretty much leave it to tick over itself. If I do the hairdressing option I am most likely not paying the franchise costs, I will just setup a new brand. |
Re: Franchise - anyone bought one?
Originally Posted by chinnybloke
(Post 4980291)
Hi,
I work in software (own small business) but I want to setup a franchise or something else (also considering renovation of properties) as I'm a service company with little income from products - therefore if anything happens to me the income will plummet. Has anyone on here bought a franchise? Good or bad idea? Was it worth it? Do you wish you'd just setup on your own with a new "brand"? I am considering Subway, Cash Converters or a hairdressers, I need something where I can work to set it up and then pretty much leave it to tick over itself. Do a strong due diligence on whether you should just set up your own business. And I would be concerned at the prospects of anyone who was unable to decide between three fundamentally different businesses - you should already know your skill set well enough to narrow down the choice. |
Re: Franchise - anyone bought one?
Isn't franchising a great way to make money... for the people who sell you the franchise?
That's what everyone I've met who set up a franchise business said, anyway :). After all, if there were big profits to be made, why would the company be giving them to the people running the franchise rather than keeping them to itself? |
Re: Franchise - anyone bought one?
Originally Posted by MarkG
(Post 4980377)
Isn't franchising a great way to make money... for the people who sell you the franchise?
That's what everyone I've met who set up a franchise business said, anyway :). After all, if there were big profits to be made, why would the company be giving them to the people running the franchise rather than keeping them to itself? McDonalds, Subway, Tim Hortons to name a few, there are plenty of people making good money after buying those franchises |
Re: Franchise - anyone bought one?
Originally Posted by JAJ
(Post 4980370)
And I would be concerned at the prospects of anyone who was unable to decide between three fundamentally different businesses - you should already know your skill set well enough to narrow down the choice.
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Re: Franchise - anyone bought one?
Originally Posted by MarkG
(Post 4980377)
Isn't franchising a great way to make money... for the people who sell you the franchise?
That's what everyone I've met who set up a franchise business said, anyway :). After all, if there were big profits to be made, why would the company be giving them to the people running the franchise rather than keeping them to itself? I don't have a franchise but work with someone who owns a Subway store, it entails working masses of hours (since he has a day job he's there every evening and both days of the weekend) and generates very little money (rule of thumb, you need four stores to make a living wage). His idea is that, since it was a new location, he should be able to build up the traffic and sell the franchise for a profit. I dunno about that, he'll have several years worth of accounting showing it generated less than a buck an hour in income but time will tell. |
Re: Franchise - anyone bought one?
Originally Posted by dbd33
(Post 4980403)
I don't have a franchise but work with someone who owns a Subway store, it entails working masses of hours (since he has a day job he's there every evening and both days of the weekend) and generates very little money (rule of thumb, you need four stores to make a living wage). His idea is that, since it was a new location, he should be able to build up the traffic and sell the franchise for a profit. I dunno about that, he'll have several years worth of accounting showing it generated less than a buck an hour in income but time will tell.
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Re: Franchise - anyone bought one?
Originally Posted by chinnybloke
(Post 4980387)
Yep, companies selling them do make lots of money but if the franchisees didn't make any they'd soon stop selling them as they'd be no market.
I choose Subway as I know someone in Leicester, England and he bought a Subway franchise which completely paid for itself in 4 years. That's not to say you can't make a profit, but don't expect it to be easy. |
Re: Franchise - anyone bought one?
Originally Posted by MarkG
(Post 4980479)
Not true. There are always suckers^H^H^H^H^Hpeople who think they can make easy money running their own franchise... they look at how many customers the local Subway has and how it's 'just' a matter of sticking a few bits and pieces in a bit of bread and assume that it must be making a lot of money.
Originally Posted by MarkG
(Post 4980479)
That's not to say you can't make a profit, but don't expect it to be easy.
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Re: Franchise - anyone bought one?
Originally Posted by chinnybloke
(Post 4980523)
I don't expect it to be easy. Its a backup plan. Right now I'm financially ok off. I'm looking "just in case".
with a franchise that doesn't rely upon my specific software skills an income and business would still continue for my wife and daughter. Thats all I want. Plus it's fun. Buying stock is my answer to most life problems. :thumbup: |
Re: Franchise - anyone bought one?
Originally Posted by chinnybloke
(Post 4980523)
You're right, there are always suckers, and they will probably buy crappy franchises in companies with no track record.
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Re: Franchise - anyone bought one?
Originally Posted by chinnybloke
(Post 4980291)
Hi,
I work in software (own small business) but I want to setup a franchise or something else (also considering renovation of properties) as I'm a service company with little income from products - therefore if anything happens to me the income will plummet. Has anyone on here bought a franchise? Good or bad idea? Was it worth it? Do you wish you'd just setup on your own with a new "brand"? I am considering Subway, Cash Converters or a hairdressers, I need something where I can work to set it up and then pretty much leave it to tick over itself. If I do the hairdressing option I am most likely not paying the franchise costs, I will just setup a new brand. Some franchise purchasers make a great success of it. I do legal work in commercial real estate, and we have a business brokerage that specialises in selling franchises. Just about all buyers have gone on to make a great success of it, but I know you have to be careful which ones to buy into. And a friend of mine from the UK bought into a landscaping franchise, and makes good money. Places like KFC, Buck or Two, Subway, Blenz, Sportschek etc etc - all have good marketing departments and are pretty strict about who they sell to because their name and reputation is at risk. You have to go through quite a process of approval and training to buy into most of them. Someone else mentioned 3 McDonalds within a hundred yards or so of each other, which I find hard to believe because there are strict rules about how many per area. But that was in the States, so who knows?! No matter what business you are in, you have to be willing to put in lots of hours and effort in the first few years to make it successful. There are pros and cons about buying into a franchise, but a good one will give you lots of backup, too. Just my opinion, for what it's worth. |
Re: Franchise - anyone bought one?
Originally Posted by hot wasabi peas
(Post 4980556)
Why not just buy stock in a company that sells franchises? Similar risk level, aside from initial due diligence very little work involved and if they offer dividends, better taxation on income (in Canada - don't know if you're talking Canada or UK).
Plus it's fun. Buying stock is my answer to most life problems. :thumbup: oil and gas royalty trusts and I get dividends monthly and some quarterly. Also bought TSX corporation and banks for dividends ,so that I could get the cash flow to play the juniors for fun. I looked at owning a business and I am not good in dealing with staff or tenants. Thank God for those dividend stocks and the royalty trusts. Royalty Trusts took a hit last Nov. in response to the Govt. taxation rules in 2010. Oh well,they will get our money one way or another. I have heard of people that done well in franchises,in Vancouver there is a free newspaper called Immigrants featuring how they become successful in Canada. If you are looking into Subway franchise, find one in the food court at a shopping mall.The overhead will be lower due to the smaller space and lower the risk of being robbed I think. Good luck. Yoong |
Re: Franchise - anyone bought one?
Originally Posted by startwin
(Post 4982097)
Some franchise purchasers make a great success of it. I do legal work in commercial real estate, and we have a business brokerage that specialises in selling franchises. Just about all buyers have gone on to make a great success of it, but I know you have to be careful which ones to buy into. And a friend of mine from the UK bought into a landscaping franchise, and makes good money. Places like KFC, Buck or Two, Subway, Blenz, Sportschek etc etc - all have good marketing departments and are pretty strict about who they sell to because their name and reputation is at risk. You have to go through quite a process of approval and training to buy into most of them. Someone else mentioned 3 McDonalds within a hundred yards or so of each other, which I find hard to believe because there are strict rules about how many per area. But that was in the States, so who knows?! No matter what business you are in, you have to be willing to put in lots of hours and effort in the first few years to make it successful. There are pros and cons about buying into a franchise, but a good one will give you lots of backup, too.
Just my opinion, for what it's worth. |
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