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adamfozz Jul 21st 2011 8:06 am

Re: Finding a job from the UK...
 

Originally Posted by davidsk (Post 9510325)
Once your PNP is approved, you will apply for your PR via PNP. Generally it is quicker than FSW.

Ok, this seems like an option. I havent read up on the PNP route. I assume its still based on the point system the same as the other route. Does your employer have to do alot with this route?

Adam

adamfozz Jul 22nd 2011 7:59 am

Re: Finding a job from the UK...
 
I was just reading up on PNP on the main Canada Immigration site. I cant seem to tell if the companies have to register a PNP job in advance or can they do this once the decide they want to use a foreign worker for a job.

Clarification would be great.
Thanks
Adam

pacepeter Jul 22nd 2011 8:16 am

Re: Finding a job from the UK...
 

Originally Posted by christmasoompa (Post 9509705)
I know, that's why it makes absolutely no difference to a PR application!

:)

I had to pass my red seal to get provicial nominee in Alberta 2 German plumbers I know failed thier second attempt they got deported back

adamfozz Jul 22nd 2011 8:27 am

Re: Finding a job from the UK...
 

Originally Posted by pacepeter (Post 9512593)
I had to pass my red seal to get provicial nominee in Alberta 2 German plumbers I know failed thier second attempt they got deported back

Hi, Thanks for your reply.

Ok. But My profession is in Purchasing. So I dont think there is a qualification process like the red seal for me.

Adam

davidsk Jul 22nd 2011 8:35 am

Re: Finding a job from the UK...
 

Originally Posted by adamfozz (Post 9510345)
Ok, this seems like an option. I havent read up on the PNP route. I assume its still based on the point system the same as the other route. Does your employer have to do alot with this route?

Adam

I guess the PNP team did calculate the points, but I am not 100% sure. You need to check it out.

What I did was that I contacted the NSNP, told them that I got a job, and asked if they could support me for the visa. They asked me to send them a copy of the job offer with the NSNP forms and supporting documents. About a month later they sent me the NSNP certificate and a support letter for my TWP and my OH open TWP.

adamfozz Jul 22nd 2011 8:53 am

Re: Finding a job from the UK...
 

Originally Posted by davidsk (Post 9512626)
I guess the PNP team did calculate the points, but I am not 100% sure. You need to check it out.

What I did was that I contacted the NSNP, told them that I got a job, and asked if they could support me for the visa. They asked me to send them a copy of the job offer with the NSNP forms and supporting documents. About a month later they sent me the NSNP certificate and a support letter for my TWP and my OH open TWP.

Oh ok, that makes sense. Once you got your support letter did you then apply for the Temp work Permit in the same way as usual - through the london office?

Adam

davidsk Jul 22nd 2011 10:54 am

Re: Finding a job from the UK...
 

Originally Posted by adamfozz (Post 9512657)
Oh ok, that makes sense. Once you got your support letter did you then apply for the Temp work Permit in the same way as usual - through the london office?

Adam

I did both. The first one was through the London office. It took 3 months.

At the end of the waiting time, I got a second offer which was $20K more. So I told the NSNP. They issued me a new supporting letter. I couldn't bear to wait for another 3 months and meanwhile I found out many people just applied at POE, so I did it too.

adamfozz Jul 22nd 2011 7:49 pm

Re: Finding a job from the UK...
 

Originally Posted by davidsk (Post 9512906)
I did both. The first one was through the London office. It took 3 months.

At the end of the waiting time, I got a second offer which was $20K more. So I told the NSNP. They issued me a new supporting letter. I couldn't bear to wait for another 3 months and meanwhile I found out many people just applied at POE, so I did it too.

Are you saying that with a supporting letter you can apply for your work permit when you arrive in the country?!!

Adam

christmasoompa Jul 22nd 2011 8:41 pm

Re: Finding a job from the UK...
 

Originally Posted by adamfozz (Post 9513415)
Are you saying that with a supporting letter you can apply for your work permit when you arrive in the country?!!

Adam

You can do that anyway with a LMO, just apply at the airport (unless you need a medical). So it's no different from the normal TWP in that respect.

But each province has their own PNP, and each PNP has different streams/programs, so there are probably at least 50 different routes to a visa through a PNP. You need to figure out which PNP you would be applying to and then look up the requirements, as they vary.

For most of them (NS and MB excepted) you'll still need a job offer and employer prepared to go through the paperwork/hassle/wait of hiring you though, so it wouldn't be any easier than a normal TWP. It just has the added benefit of you getting PR through it rather than having to apply as FSW cat 2 when you are there, although the downside is that it's usually more onerous for the employer so not all will agree to it.

Good luck. :)

Kathryn2010 Jul 27th 2011 3:12 pm

Re: Finding a job from the UK...
 
Hi

I'm new to this forum and don't know what all the abbreviations stand for!! We moved over here in December - my husband is Canadian and while I had enough points in my own right, he sponsored me.

Both my hubby and I managed to secure jobs the week before we flew out. I worked for the Scottish Government and applied for jobs from summer 2010 and we were planning to move in November. To be honest, no one took me seriously. I actually got an interview with the Ontario Provincial Government - same field but two levels down from where I was - and I had to explain that I hadn't yet moved over. Got the impression they wouldn't have shortlisted me if they knew I wasn't yet over. We did the presentation and interview by video conference and I had a written paper to do which I did and emailed over within a set time slot. I got the job but on contract rather than permanent. I've since got a permanent position. One thing that has shocked me is the sheer competition for jobs. The job I got on contract had 400 applicants and I came in second place hence the contract rather than permanent. The permanent position I got there was a 1,000 applicants. I'm getting these I think because I'm taking a couple of steps back to get in and then move up. I know the public service here is incredibly competitive.

My hubby was a bit different. He works for an international bank that had an office in Toronto. He still had to apply for jobs though (although internally) and was competing with on average 100 other people. Like me he got one (which became just a transfer to the Toronto office) but a step below what he was in Edinburgh.

It's a long way of saying that you may want to get your PR first and just apply, apply, apply. If need be take immediate jobs to ensure income and then get back into your field. I wouldn't hold out for a job first.

All of that said - as I said at the beginning, I don't know all the ins and outs as we just did this through my hubby sponsoring me.

Best wishes!
Kathryn

Steve_ Jul 28th 2011 4:55 am

Re: Finding a job from the UK...
 

Originally Posted by adamfozz (Post 9509433)
I have read the various posts about other people stories and the differences between UK and Canadian processes. I just wondered if anyone has ever found a job from the UK. I mean, is it possible do you think to find a position, apply, do an over the phone interview and then perhaps a face to face to confirm everything?

In theory yes, in reality pretty damn hard unless your occupation is something in really high demand or you've got connections. Especially with no work authorization. (My experience anyway).


The reason I ask is because the plan was to go over on a Work visa and the convert to a permanent residence once over there. As far as I can tell this is the only way to do it unless you have significant amounts of funds in the bank allowing you to move, set up and then think about locating work afterwards.
Actually the problem are the restrictions put on the skilled worker programme in 2008 that were made even tighter in 2010, you need to fall into one of the "in-demand" categories.

The Govt. has a policy now of encouraging people to come in on permits and then apply for PR status in country because it's faster to get them in and then you deal with CIC directly rather than through a consulate, so supposedly at some point the Govt. will be able to cut the number of people they employ abroad.

Bear in mind the PNPs have quotas, as I dimly recall those are set by the provinces but the federal govt. sets a maximum quota of 5,000 per province at least as far as PR applications go, can't remember on work permits.

Been a big stink in Alberta about the quota limit, but I can see why they do it because if you have to go through all the PR application from abroad it will be ages before people get here.

I used to moan about how long it took for my application to be processed, I don't think I've ever spoken to anyone ever who had it done more quickly so that shut me up.

PeterF Jul 28th 2011 6:38 am

Re: Finding a job from the UK...
 

Originally Posted by adamfozz (Post 9509678)
We were hoping for Ontario, why what are your thoughts? Are there areas with better job prospects or something?


Adam

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:


You do realise the size of the country you hope to move to don't you. Its like saying I want to move to England, what's the area like are there good prospects... (except multiply by 5 or 6 or so) and that's just Ontario.


When I did it, I sent my CV to a few places and said I was planning a trip
to Canada within a few months if they would like to see me.


I got an invite, got an interview and got a job.

No re-location though.


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