Exporting vehicle and Household goods - Any Advice!
#121
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Isn't the real argument that the rise of the hot hatch, rally derived saloon, 'executive express' and sporty offroaders, have catered to those looking for sporty yet practical vehicles? Sports cars per se. are either classics, modern interpretations of classics or supercars.
See also Vauxhall VX220, Lotus Elise, Caterham 7. But it's a short list. Strangely, in the N American marketplace, the Pontiac Solstice and Saturn Sky both came reasonably close, but both have been victims of GM's retrenchment.
A bracket or two up the price range the Porsche Boxster accomplished many of the same aims. So too, but in a different direction, does the Morgan roadster (which, by the by, uses a BMW V6 engine now that the old Rover V8 is no longer viable).
4-seat (or at least 2+2) "sports tourers" do very well in their market segment too - from the 3- and 5-series convertible BMWs, Audi's A4, even the Toyota Solara, but there are too many compromises towards comfort and convenience and away from the stripped-down ideal of a proper sports car.
#122
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Indeed. In North America the phenomenon has progressed to the extent that the entry level crossover/softroaders are 2WD. Vis Escape, Torrent etc. All the disadvantages of an SUV without the offroad ability? This type of vehicle, together with the ubiquitous mini-van seems to have replaced the traditional estate car. Ask yourself this - what wagons can you buy in Canada? VW Golf/Passat. Mercedes? Subaru Legacy, Volvo V50/70. That's about it!
Didn't Cadillac recently announce they're doing an estate version of the CTS? Perhaps the OP should consider that as an alternative to the X5?
#123
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Towing capacity and comparative frugality were the top reasons I purchased an M-class. 4WD's good for a slippy boat dock, but who's really going to off road with any degree of bravado in a $60k SUV?
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Gosh, it's an exciting place to live, Bedford.
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World English Dictionary
sports car
— n
a production car designed for speed, high acceleration, and manoeuvrability, having a low body and usually adequate seating for only two persons
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this to me sums up the modern sports car such as the bmw m3, honda type R
sports car
— n
a production car designed for speed, high acceleration, and manoeuvrability, having a low body and usually adequate seating for only two persons
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this to me sums up the modern sports car such as the bmw m3, honda type R
#127
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World English Dictionary
sports car
— n
a production car designed for speed, high acceleration, and manoeuvrability, having a low body and usually adequate seating for only two persons
Collins English Dictionary - Complete & Unabridged 10th Edition
2009 © William Collins Sons & Co. Ltd. 1979, 1986 © HarperCollins
Publishers 1998, 2000, 2003, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2009
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this to me sums up the modern sports car such as the bmw m3, honda type R
sports car
— n
a production car designed for speed, high acceleration, and manoeuvrability, having a low body and usually adequate seating for only two persons
Collins English Dictionary - Complete & Unabridged 10th Edition
2009 © William Collins Sons & Co. Ltd. 1979, 1986 © HarperCollins
Publishers 1998, 2000, 2003, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2009
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this to me sums up the modern sports car such as the bmw m3, honda type R
The Honda R type would seem to be the vehicle called a Civic here which, for all its alleged reliabilty is surely the definition of what the sensible, if conservative, father or two small children would drive.
I put it to you that these are small saloon cars with trim bits stuck on. Boy racer specials. If those are sports cars this is a better one:
http://www.penny4them.com/images/0207/chavcar1.jpg
#128
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I'll reiterate, as you're continuing to ignore the central point. Neither BMW or Honda market those vehicles as sports cars, they're coupes or hatchbacks. The manufacturer deems it inappropriate to call them sports cars. Flick through the back of Evo magazine or any other that lists vehicles by body type and you won't find them in the 'sports car' category either.
They sum up 'sporty performance car' that's all. Oakvillian's post higher up the page was an accurate summary, IMO.
#129
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It might sum it up for you, but your interpretation is still off.
I'll reiterate, as you're continuing to ignore the central point. Neither BMW or Honda market those vehicles as sports cars, they're coupes or hatchbacks. The manufacturer deems it inappropriate to call them sports cars. Flick through the back of Evo magazine or any other that lists vehicles by body type and you won't find them in the 'sports car' category either.
They sum up 'sporty performance car' that's all. Oakvillian's post higher up the page was an accurate summary, IMO.
I'll reiterate, as you're continuing to ignore the central point. Neither BMW or Honda market those vehicles as sports cars, they're coupes or hatchbacks. The manufacturer deems it inappropriate to call them sports cars. Flick through the back of Evo magazine or any other that lists vehicles by body type and you won't find them in the 'sports car' category either.
They sum up 'sporty performance car' that's all. Oakvillian's post higher up the page was an accurate summary, IMO.
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It might sum it up for you, but your interpretation is still off.
I'll reiterate, as you're continuing to ignore the central point. Neither BMW or Honda market those vehicles as sports cars, they're coupes or hatchbacks. The manufacturer deems it inappropriate to call them sports cars. Flick through the back of Evo magazine or any other that lists vehicles by body type and you won't find them in the 'sports car' category either.
They sum up 'sporty performance car' that's all. Oakvillian's post higher up the page was an accurate summary, IMO.
I'll reiterate, as you're continuing to ignore the central point. Neither BMW or Honda market those vehicles as sports cars, they're coupes or hatchbacks. The manufacturer deems it inappropriate to call them sports cars. Flick through the back of Evo magazine or any other that lists vehicles by body type and you won't find them in the 'sports car' category either.
They sum up 'sporty performance car' that's all. Oakvillian's post higher up the page was an accurate summary, IMO.
My interpretation is just that ,it's my interpertation of a modern sports car
and i stand by what i have said , so pleause dont start telling me what it should be , i find that rude
#134
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I'd have felt a fraud when I owned a WRX to have described it as a sports car, it was just a warmish/hot hatch. It just didn't meet the criteria, not just in my eyes, but in the motor industry as a whole.
If you want to be different and categorize vehicles in your own way, then you can hardly expect anything but a degree of opposition or debate about what you propose.