Expat tv.... Any thoughts?
Mar 12th 2013, 2:09 am
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Re: Expat tv.... Any thoughts?
Originally Posted by kimilseung
These things are illegal as they do not have permission of the original broadcaster, so you pays your money and then do not complain when it just stops without warning.
Mar 12th 2013, 2:13 am
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Re: Expat tv.... Any thoughts?
Originally Posted by MillieF
OK so BE is posting this as a streamer....why? Is everything on here dodgy too? This cannot be the case. BE why are you carrying the advertising for an illegal service? Response please?
Last edited by kimilseung; Mar 12th 2013 at 2:16 am.
Mar 12th 2013, 9:16 am
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Re: Expat tv.... Any thoughts?
Originally Posted by MillieF
OK so BE is posting this as a streamer....why? Is everything on here dodgy too? This cannot be the case. BE why are you carrying the advertising for an illegal service? Response please?
Is it because it dupes the various online players into believing its somewhere its not via a VPN or similar?
Mar 12th 2013, 1:58 pm
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Re: Expat tv.... Any thoughts?
There is also this which Alan Sugar keeps going on about on twitter.
http://www.uktveverywhere.com/index.html
Apparently he uses it while in Florida. He says its great. So I think It is possible
Not the cheapest soloution though US$144.99. But worth comparing.
http://www.uktveverywhere.com/index.html
Apparently he uses it while in Florida. He says its great. So I think It is possible
Not the cheapest soloution though US$144.99. But worth comparing.
Mar 12th 2013, 2:54 pm
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Re: Expat tv.... Any thoughts?
Considering the cost of TV in Canada (even before looking at what's served up 
) all of these fees for various services are bargains.
I imagine they involve some amount of illegality or dubious practice. One might wonder if that is someone to give your credit card details to.
That's not to say I would definitely not use the fee paying services, but when there are adequate risk free, free alternatives available I don't see the point. (and no tech knowledge needed)
Looking at tonight's UK line-up, it looks to be things that are on over here or stuff that can be downloaded and viewed within hours perhaps even at the "same time" as one would watch over there. Even Corrie and Eastenders.
Or is that people want to hear the announcers?
) all of these fees for various services are bargains.I imagine they involve some amount of illegality or dubious practice. One might wonder if that is someone to give your credit card details to.
That's not to say I would definitely not use the fee paying services, but when there are adequate risk free, free alternatives available I don't see the point. (and no tech knowledge needed)
Looking at tonight's UK line-up, it looks to be things that are on over here or stuff that can be downloaded and viewed within hours perhaps even at the "same time" as one would watch over there. Even Corrie and Eastenders.
Or is that people want to hear the announcers?
Last edited by BristolUK; Mar 12th 2013 at 2:57 pm.
Mar 12th 2013, 3:37 pm
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Re: Expat tv.... Any thoughts?
Originally Posted by emjaca85
There is also this which Alan Sugar keeps going on about on twitter.
http://www.uktveverywhere.com/index.html
Apparently he uses it while in Florida. He says its great. So I think It is possible Not the cheapest soloution though US$144.99. But worth comparing.
http://www.uktveverywhere.com/index.html
Apparently he uses it while in Florida. He says its great. So I think It is possible
Not the cheapest soloution though US$144.99. But worth comparing.
Mar 12th 2013, 3:54 pm
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Re: Expat tv.... Any thoughts?
Originally Posted by BristolUK
Living in this part of Canada is probably more conducive to watching live UK TV than most of the rest of the country, the time difference normally meaning we're 4 hours behind.
For Saturday football, the lunchtime game is at breakfast here, rather than 5 or 6 am. But it's on Canadian TV anyway.
Through the week, anything on between 9.00pm and midnight UK time is between 5.00 and 8.00pm here and further West overlaps the afternoon which is not good for those working.
One really needs to see if live UK TV will suit and if not, then what is next best. Everyone has their favourites and some require more expensive equipment, better internet or subscriptions to possibly fly-by-night outfits.
There are several websites giving access to a wide range of movies and TV series of very good quality, completely free and watching the main UK channels live is often possible anyway.
For example, on weekends I watch Match of the Day live. Channel 4 has been showing a brilliant serial - Utopia - on Tuesdays between 10 and 11pm. It has usually been available for watching (or downloading for viewing later) within 3 hours of finishing and that means being able to watch it at pretty much the same local time as it was shown.
I did the same with the second series of The Hour - although I've not seen it yet.
US TV (on channels you might not have) that crosses the Atlantic, such as Homeland is also available, so you can watch those before they are shown in the UK.
All without commercials too.
For Saturday football, the lunchtime game is at breakfast here, rather than 5 or 6 am. But it's on Canadian TV anyway.
Through the week, anything on between 9.00pm and midnight UK time is between 5.00 and 8.00pm here and further West overlaps the afternoon which is not good for those working.
One really needs to see if live UK TV will suit and if not, then what is next best. Everyone has their favourites and some require more expensive equipment, better internet or subscriptions to possibly fly-by-night outfits.
There are several websites giving access to a wide range of movies and TV series of very good quality, completely free and watching the main UK channels live is often possible anyway.
For example, on weekends I watch Match of the Day live. Channel 4 has been showing a brilliant serial - Utopia - on Tuesdays between 10 and 11pm. It has usually been available for watching (or downloading for viewing later) within 3 hours of finishing and that means being able to watch it at pretty much the same local time as it was shown.
I did the same with the second series of The Hour - although I've not seen it yet.
US TV (on channels you might not have) that crosses the Atlantic, such as Homeland is also available, so you can watch those before they are shown in the UK.
All without commercials too.
Mar 12th 2013, 4:54 pm
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Re: Expat tv.... Any thoughts?
Originally Posted by Tangram
How do you watch UK TV without fooling the DNS or VPN ?
Many of the sites that are used for streaming live football (when not on Canadian TV) have buttons at the top marked TV. The main BBC/ITV/C4/C5 ones are often there...not always working, granted, but they are there.
I think you're familiar with firstrow and ATDee. They both have them.
When I have put a little extra effort in I have succeeded with live coverage of Glastonbury, the summer riots, Olympics and England games when on ITV if only for "build up"
On the other hand, Firefox 'Stealthy' and things like it have never done a thing for me.
Mar 12th 2013, 5:41 pm
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Re: Expat tv.... Any thoughts?
Originally Posted by BristolUK
Presumably the websites are the ones that do the fooling.
Many of the sites that are used for streaming live football (when not on Canadian TV) have buttons at the top marked TV. The main BBC/ITV/C4/C5 ones are often there...not always working, granted, but they are there.
I think you're familiar with firstrow and ATDee. They both have them.
When I have put a little extra effort in I have succeeded with live coverage of Glastonbury, the summer riots, Olympics and England games when on ITV if only for "build up"
On the other hand, Firefox 'Stealthy' and things like it have never done a thing for me.
Many of the sites that are used for streaming live football (when not on Canadian TV) have buttons at the top marked TV. The main BBC/ITV/C4/C5 ones are often there...not always working, granted, but they are there.
I think you're familiar with firstrow and ATDee. They both have them.
When I have put a little extra effort in I have succeeded with live coverage of Glastonbury, the summer riots, Olympics and England games when on ITV if only for "build up"
On the other hand, Firefox 'Stealthy' and things like it have never done a thing for me.
First Row is normally excellent if a little blocky when blown up onto a 46" or 50" TV. I even resorted to it when the usually steady BBC iPlayer started stuttering during the rugby on Saturday.
Mar 12th 2013, 7:16 pm
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Re: Expat tv.... Any thoughts?
Originally Posted by Tangram
So you're still doing something 'shady' or 'semi illegal' despite your post painting DNS/VPN changers thus, it's just that you're not using an app to do so.
First Row is normally excellent if a little blocky when blown up onto a 46" or 50" TV. I even resorted to it when the usually steady BBC iPlayer started stuttering during the rugby on Saturday.
First Row is normally excellent if a little blocky when blown up onto a 46" or 50" TV. I even resorted to it when the usually steady BBC iPlayer started stuttering during the rugby on Saturday.
The fact that I can get UK TV channels when using a VPN service is an added benefit as far as I am concerned.
Mar 12th 2013, 8:22 pm
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Re: Expat tv.... Any thoughts?
Originally Posted by Tangram
So you're still doing something 'shady' or 'semi illegal' despite your post painting DNS/VPN changers thus, it's just that you're not using an app to do so.
I imagine they involve some amount of illegality or dubious practice. One might wonder if that is someone to give your credit card details to.
That's not to say I would definitely not use the fee paying services, but when there are adequate risk free, free alternatives available I don't see the point.
That's not to say I would definitely not use the fee paying services, but when there are adequate risk free, free alternatives available I don't see the point.
Mar 12th 2013, 9:30 pm
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Re: Expat tv.... Any thoughts?
I just tried to log on and watch the CL game on TV Catchup and noticed they have now excluded the witopia ISP.
Mar 12th 2013, 9:38 pm
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Re: Expat tv.... Any thoughts?
Originally Posted by jaminsk1
I just tried to log on and watch the CL game on TV Catchup and noticed they have now excluded the witopia ISP.
TVC blocking VPN's has obviously not done them any use as they still lost the court case
Mar 13th 2013, 11:32 am
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Re: Expat tv.... Any thoughts?
Originally Posted by jaminsk1
As far as I am aware, there is nothing illegal or shady about using a VPN service. There are predominantly set up for user security and internet privacy. If they were illegal then the companies would not be able to charge for them.
The fact that I can get UK TV channels when using a VPN service is an added benefit as far as I am concerned.
The fact that I can get UK TV channels when using a VPN service is an added benefit as far as I am concerned.
Mar 13th 2013, 2:02 pm
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Re: Expat tv.... Any thoughts?
Originally Posted by jaminsk1
As far as I am aware, there is nothing illegal or shady about using a VPN service. There are predominantly set up for user security and internet privacy. If they were illegal then the companies would not be able to charge for them.
The fact that I can get UK TV channels when using a VPN service is an added benefit as far as I am concerned.
The fact that I can get UK TV channels when using a VPN service is an added benefit as far as I am concerned.
Don't understand paying to do it.
Anyone in the Fredericton area tried over-the-air HDTV...using modern rabbit-ears?
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