Excessive passport inspection at YYZ?
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occasionally there's an elephant in the plane though
BBC News - The elephant that flew
BBC News - The elephant that flew
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occasionally there's an elephant in the plane though
BBC News - The elephant that flew
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I think it was more about it being a quiet time in the airport and they had to keep themselves looking busy, when in fact all they did was give the impression that there are far too many CBSA agents. I am not aware of any increase in the level of threat to Toronto.
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No need for sarcasm. I based that statement on the fact that the UK was recently quiet public in raising it's security level so I assumed that other countries would be the same. The public are generally more sympathetic to these extra measures when kept informed. One of the officers asked me a question, half way through me answering him he waved me on without getting the full answer, so I can only conclude that he was bored or I bored him. It's more likely I bored him as my answer went into a lot of unnecessary detail.
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As I have been told many many times by the public I pay your salary.
So going by that statement alone the more times I check your passport means you are getting value for money as opposed to me only checking it once or is there some flaw in my logic? There again one could argue that the more times you have your passport checked especially by the same group of people wearing the same uniform then either the ability to do a cursory check of a passport is severely flawed and we need more training or we are like other unionized workers who stand around all day doing nothing or part of the 6 person team thats required to dig a hole.
This conundrum will surely be causing me sleepless nights over the next few months and I might need to seek professional help in dealing with this sensitive situation.
So going by that statement alone the more times I check your passport means you are getting value for money as opposed to me only checking it once or is there some flaw in my logic? There again one could argue that the more times you have your passport checked especially by the same group of people wearing the same uniform then either the ability to do a cursory check of a passport is severely flawed and we need more training or we are like other unionized workers who stand around all day doing nothing or part of the 6 person team thats required to dig a hole.
This conundrum will surely be causing me sleepless nights over the next few months and I might need to seek professional help in dealing with this sensitive situation.
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As I have been told many many times by the public I pay your salary.
So going by that statement alone the more times I check your passport means you are getting value for money as opposed to me only checking it once or is there some flaw in my logic? There again one could argue that the more times you have your passport checked especially by the same group of people wearing the same uniform then either the ability to do a cursory check of a passport is severely flawed and we need more training or we are like other unionized workers who stand around all day doing nothing or part of the 6 person team thats required to dig a hole.
This conundrum will surely be causing me sleepless nights over the next few months and I might need to seek professional help in dealing with this sensitive situation.
So going by that statement alone the more times I check your passport means you are getting value for money as opposed to me only checking it once or is there some flaw in my logic? There again one could argue that the more times you have your passport checked especially by the same group of people wearing the same uniform then either the ability to do a cursory check of a passport is severely flawed and we need more training or we are like other unionized workers who stand around all day doing nothing or part of the 6 person team thats required to dig a hole.
This conundrum will surely be causing me sleepless nights over the next few months and I might need to seek professional help in dealing with this sensitive situation.
Please don't lose any sleep over your conundrum it will give you awful bags under you eyes darling, not a look anyone would want or choose.
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As I have been told many many times by the public I pay your salary.
So going by that statement alone the more times I check your passport means you are getting value for money as opposed to me only checking it once or is there some flaw in my logic? There again one could argue that the more times you have your passport checked especially by the same group of people wearing the same uniform then either the ability to do a cursory check of a passport is severely flawed and we need more training or we are like other unionized workers who stand around all day doing nothing or part of the 6 person team thats required to dig a hole.
This conundrum will surely be causing me sleepless nights over the next few months and I might need to seek professional help in dealing with this sensitive situation.
So going by that statement alone the more times I check your passport means you are getting value for money as opposed to me only checking it once or is there some flaw in my logic? There again one could argue that the more times you have your passport checked especially by the same group of people wearing the same uniform then either the ability to do a cursory check of a passport is severely flawed and we need more training or we are like other unionized workers who stand around all day doing nothing or part of the 6 person team thats required to dig a hole.
This conundrum will surely be causing me sleepless nights over the next few months and I might need to seek professional help in dealing with this sensitive situation.
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Canadian's don't seem to care about complaining about these sorts of things, what a waste of time and money. There are officials checking and rechecking the same documents several times from the time you get out off the plane and get out of the airport.
There's also the ridiculously low customs thresholds ($60 per visitor to Canada?) but that is a different matter.
Furthermore, some of the personnel checking the passports and documents sitting at the desks are wearing what appears to be bullet proof vests. Has anyone else noticed this? The only people who will pass through their counter is people who have just got off a PLANE. What would that protection be for?
You come to the UK and the officials are efficient and fast. If the UK can do it when they are far more likely to be attacked or have 'bad people' try to get in then Canada should be able to do it, but of course, it's inefficient bumbling Canadians who are in charge. This is the city and country were the police decided to remove small trees during the G20 in case they were used as a weapon.
Why bother trying to improve anything though at the airport or at their terrible companies (Air Canada, Rogers, Bell etc.) when the government will implement laws to just block out the competition for you. It's sad that the Canadian public don't realize it's them that is suffering from this type of behaviour.
There's also the ridiculously low customs thresholds ($60 per visitor to Canada?) but that is a different matter.
Furthermore, some of the personnel checking the passports and documents sitting at the desks are wearing what appears to be bullet proof vests. Has anyone else noticed this? The only people who will pass through their counter is people who have just got off a PLANE. What would that protection be for?
You come to the UK and the officials are efficient and fast. If the UK can do it when they are far more likely to be attacked or have 'bad people' try to get in then Canada should be able to do it, but of course, it's inefficient bumbling Canadians who are in charge. This is the city and country were the police decided to remove small trees during the G20 in case they were used as a weapon.
Why bother trying to improve anything though at the airport or at their terrible companies (Air Canada, Rogers, Bell etc.) when the government will implement laws to just block out the competition for you. It's sad that the Canadian public don't realize it's them that is suffering from this type of behaviour.
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The last time I passed through YVR (Vancouver) on a return journey over a year ago I got questioned by CBSA officers clad in bullet proof vests after I scanned my passport at the machine. Back in the 90s the customs agents wore blue shirts and the immigration officers wore white shirts with blue cardigans - much less intimidating.
And what happened between the 90s and now? Specifically on 11/9/2001? Although even when you think about it, people coming OFF the plane have already been inspected and should be alright so even then it is questioned... But it is the paranoia that that particular incident created, which was perpetuated and greatly exaggerated (still is to this day) by the americans, and Canada being their neighbour, we have somewhat adopted this paranoia as well. FWIW European border officers are a lot less intimidating to me than Canadian or especially US ones.
BUT, i'd rather everything be "over-secure" than under-secure.
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sometimes they inspect passports at YYZ just as one exists the plane. In this case, the officers would be waiting just outside of the plane. This is just a general look at the main passport page, nothing more. Now that it's mentioned in this thread, I am also surprised having remembered the bullet prove vests of some agents for passengers who just stepped of a plane. Just wondering, which airport would allow passengers to carry a gun for air travel? especially after Sept. 11th this would be rather rare, if not totally impossible.
As a Canadian citizen, I then go through the electronic entry, then print of a piece of paper and see an agent. Sometimes there are questions, but in general there are few questions.
Never had any real issues, but also wondered what is the real point of expecting a passport several times. It's not more secure, not for anybody. It's still the same document. If the passport is scanned in, fraud is easily detected these days. Maybe one agent doesn't trust the work of the other one?
Back when I was an immigrant I went back to Europe three times, for always one week around Christmas, once returning in Calgary. Calgary is the only time when they actually stamped my passport and noted "RR", possibly for returning resident? In YYZ they never stamped my passport.
As a Canadian citizen, I then go through the electronic entry, then print of a piece of paper and see an agent. Sometimes there are questions, but in general there are few questions.
Never had any real issues, but also wondered what is the real point of expecting a passport several times. It's not more secure, not for anybody. It's still the same document. If the passport is scanned in, fraud is easily detected these days. Maybe one agent doesn't trust the work of the other one?
Back when I was an immigrant I went back to Europe three times, for always one week around Christmas, once returning in Calgary. Calgary is the only time when they actually stamped my passport and noted "RR", possibly for returning resident? In YYZ they never stamped my passport.
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sometimes they inspect passports at YYZ just as one exists the plane. In this case, the officers would be waiting just outside of the plane. This is just a general look at the main passport page, nothing more. Now that it's mentioned in this thread, I am also surprised having remembered the bullet prove vests of some agents for passengers who just stepped of a plane. Just wondering, which airport would allow passengers to carry a gun for air travel? especially after Sept. 11th this would be rather rare, if not totally impossible.
As a Canadian citizen, I then go through the electronic entry, then print of a piece of paper and see an agent. Sometimes there are questions, but in general there are few questions.
Never had any real issues, but also wondered what is the real point of expecting a passport several times. It's not more secure, not for anybody. It's still the same document. If the passport is scanned in, fraud is easily detected these days. Maybe one agent doesn't trust the work of the other one?
Back when I was an immigrant I went back to Europe three times, for always one week around Christmas, once returning in Calgary. Calgary is the only time when they actually stamped my passport and noted "RR", possibly for returning resident? In YYZ they never stamped my passport.
As a Canadian citizen, I then go through the electronic entry, then print of a piece of paper and see an agent. Sometimes there are questions, but in general there are few questions.
Never had any real issues, but also wondered what is the real point of expecting a passport several times. It's not more secure, not for anybody. It's still the same document. If the passport is scanned in, fraud is easily detected these days. Maybe one agent doesn't trust the work of the other one?
Back when I was an immigrant I went back to Europe three times, for always one week around Christmas, once returning in Calgary. Calgary is the only time when they actually stamped my passport and noted "RR", possibly for returning resident? In YYZ they never stamped my passport.
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