Ex-Military making the move?
Nov 25th 2008, 9:00 am
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Re: Ex-Military making the move?
Chinook - can you keep me informed of any info, too - if all goes to plan we will be in a similar position - (in country on posting, canadian house rented out, UK tax payers, about to leave mil and not intending to return to UK...) The only difference at the moment is we haven't got PR, but if we've got our timelines right, it should happen whilst we are there 
(given the usual ups and downs and specialist medical reports and legal appeals lol)...
We currently pay non-res tax on the house etc as it is rented, and I was curious what will happen when we are in country on posting - presumably we still pay non-res tax then if we are UK tax payers? Is that how it is working for you? I had wondered if we were there on posting if we would have to pay res tax, but it looks like you don't?
tax eh? blardy accountant didn't submit expenses, only income, so spent yesterday on the phone to CRA trying to sort it out. last thing we need is a tax debtor label on our file before processing! (CRA have got $30K from our house sale/ purchase waiting to be paid back to us next year though, so we are 'in credit' with the tax man really...)
Any info would be more than helpful - I don't even understand the UK tax system, so trying to get my head round a tax agreement with another country is entertaining to say the least...
Dx
(given the usual ups and downs and specialist medical reports and legal appeals lol)...We currently pay non-res tax on the house etc as it is rented, and I was curious what will happen when we are in country on posting - presumably we still pay non-res tax then if we are UK tax payers? Is that how it is working for you? I had wondered if we were there on posting if we would have to pay res tax, but it looks like you don't?
tax eh? blardy accountant didn't submit expenses, only income, so spent yesterday on the phone to CRA trying to sort it out. last thing we need is a tax debtor label on our file before processing! (CRA have got $30K from our house sale/ purchase waiting to be paid back to us next year though, so we are 'in credit' with the tax man really...)
Any info would be more than helpful - I don't even understand the UK tax system, so trying to get my head round a tax agreement with another country is entertaining to say the least...
Dx
Nov 25th 2008, 10:01 am
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Re: Ex-Military making the move?
Do you think that there might be but we haven't come across it yet (whereas a 'professional' might have)?
Or, are you saying that for this kind of situation to become clear, somebody would need to take it to the courts, as in, fund the challenge themselves?
Nov 25th 2008, 12:23 pm
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Re: Ex-Military making the move?
Very good point indeed!
Do you think that there might be but we haven't come across it yet (whereas a 'professional' might have)?
Or, are you saying that for this kind of situation to become clear, somebody would need to take it to the courts, as in, fund the challenge themselves?
Do you think that there might be but we haven't come across it yet (whereas a 'professional' might have)?
Or, are you saying that for this kind of situation to become clear, somebody would need to take it to the courts, as in, fund the challenge themselves?
If that turns up nothing, we would need to club together and pay for some professional advice.
Funding a challenge through the courts is probably impractical - life's too short!
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Nov 25th 2008, 4:37 pm
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Re: Ex-Military making the move?
Sorry I know this is a little off subject, but as an Ex-RAF Techie I thought this would be the best forum for like minded folk. Im 25 and single, and Im moving out to Halifax some time early next year. I just wanted some oppinions as to how the area is for younger people. I love the outdoors so thats the main factor, but I still like the odd saturday with my dancing shoes on. I dont want Ibiza, just as long as its not Bridgend
Nov 25th 2008, 4:55 pm
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Re: Ex-Military making the move?
The key factor(s) would be how much, and how many people would want to know this info enough to chip-in with the costs?
For me personally, if the cost (or share of) was less than the bill for one month in a hotel for a family of five, then it's definitely cost effective to me!
Dec 2nd 2008, 6:56 pm
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Re: Ex-Military making the move?
Mrs Miggins, are you around? Trying to get contact details for KPMG accountants in Lethbridge, anyone already in Canada have them?
Dec 2nd 2008, 7:09 pm
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Re: Ex-Military making the move?
Jan 11th 2009, 8:18 pm
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Re: Ex-Military making the move?
We might be gettinga bit of 'overlap' on this subject now.
See this thread.
Also taken from that thread (to save me re-typing it!).
Well here's another angle that was put to me the other day by someone who isn't a tax expert but is part of the resettlement process and knows others who have landed before their gratuity was paid.
Your gratuity/lump sum isn't tax free! You have contributed to the final payment and you have paid tax on those contributions over the years. Dept 2 at Ty Glas (tax office) will be able to confirm this. Therefore under the scheme of not being taxed twice, the Canadian tax authorities shouldn't tax your gratuity payment.
Bear in mind this is how it was explained to me. I'm not saying it's right or wrong but it is the question I would be posing to a Canadian tax expert. Neither would I make the move prior to the lump sum being paid unless I had clear written confirmation that it would remain tax free.
See this thread.
Also taken from that thread (to save me re-typing it!).
Well here's another angle that was put to me the other day by someone who isn't a tax expert but is part of the resettlement process and knows others who have landed before their gratuity was paid.
Your gratuity/lump sum isn't tax free! You have contributed to the final payment and you have paid tax on those contributions over the years. Dept 2 at Ty Glas (tax office) will be able to confirm this. Therefore under the scheme of not being taxed twice, the Canadian tax authorities shouldn't tax your gratuity payment.
Bear in mind this is how it was explained to me. I'm not saying it's right or wrong but it is the question I would be posing to a Canadian tax expert. Neither would I make the move prior to the lump sum being paid unless I had clear written confirmation that it would remain tax free.
Jan 23rd 2009, 5:48 pm
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Re: Ex-Military making the move?
Update.
Still haven't yet had a definitive answer either way with regard to the 'lump sum' question although a couple of options have been suggested. I won't build-up anyone's hopes until I have some related questions answered but if it is positive news I'll let you all know.
What I did find out today though, is that (contrary to what most people were trying to tell me) there is financial assistance available with the shipping costs of PE (personal effects), wherever you are going (except the US) worldwide!!
Still haven't yet had a definitive answer either way with regard to the 'lump sum' question although a couple of options have been suggested. I won't build-up anyone's hopes until I have some related questions answered but if it is positive news I'll let you all know.
What I did find out today though, is that (contrary to what most people were trying to tell me) there is financial assistance available with the shipping costs of PE (personal effects), wherever you are going (except the US) worldwide!!
Jan 23rd 2009, 6:00 pm
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Re: Ex-Military making the move?
financial assistance, do you mean for your final move? I thought that was a definate no, please tell me more!!!
Jan 23rd 2009, 6:40 pm
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Re: Ex-Military making the move?
Update.
Still haven't yet had a definitive answer either way with regard to the 'lump sum' question although a couple of options have been suggested. I won't build-up anyone's hopes until I have some related questions answered but if it is positive news I'll let you all know.
What I did find out today though, is that (contrary to what most people were trying to tell me) there is financial assistance available with the shipping costs of PE (personal effects), wherever you are going (except the US) worldwide!!
Still haven't yet had a definitive answer either way with regard to the 'lump sum' question although a couple of options have been suggested. I won't build-up anyone's hopes until I have some related questions answered but if it is positive news I'll let you all know.
What I did find out today though, is that (contrary to what most people were trying to tell me) there is financial assistance available with the shipping costs of PE (personal effects), wherever you are going (except the US) worldwide!!
My shipment was going from Gutersloh to Medicine Hat. I was given an allowance from Gutersloh to Catterick, which was quoted at £2240. I was able to use any mover. My bill was 3495 leaving me 1225 to pay. This was door to door including full pack and 14.68 3m of PE.
If you need further help I believe I still have the relevant JSP knocking around and the details for the lady at DSCOM.
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Jan 23rd 2009, 7:02 pm
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Anyway, what I did find out today is that even if I aren't moving back to UK (I am currently in Germany), I can still get 'financial assistance' equivalent to the cost of removals back to UK, to wherever I am moving to; in my case Canada!
The amount of financial assistance is to remain within the cost of moving PE to UK; Catterick Garrison will be used for a notional cost comparison. Furthermore, 'DSCOM will base the costing on the actual volume of PE within the entitlement that the individual moved to his last assignment / location overseas.'
My last move (well, what will actually end up being my second to last move) was a big, as in distance, move and oh boy, did we move the maximum allowance!! That should see us right for pretty much the maximum financial assistance available!!
As for actual £'s figures, I don't yet know. I do know that I had a quote of £2,800 to move a 20ft container (including the packing etc) from Paderborn to London!! I'm kind of expecting/hoping it might be more!! However, any money is better than none!!
Jan 23rd 2009, 7:19 pm
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Re: Ex-Military making the move?
we are are already in UK for last posting does that mean we would get no financial asistance in moving to Canada?