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Hi all,

Hubby applied for a job and the manager emailed to say he was very interested in him and that he was aware of the LMO process. He said he had passed on hubbys info to the HR department and they would be in touch with us and the LMO people. This was 3 weeks ago and we've heard nothing since.

Soooooooooo should hubby email him or phone him and ask what the situation is or do we let it lie for fear of pissing him off and having him think he's being pestered.

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Wouldnt hurt to drop an email and enquire. It shows hes still interested, and email is easy to ignore if the boss has changed his mind.

Put a read receipt on it...

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Well that's what I think Iaink but hubby is thinking don't torture the man or he'll get pissed off.

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After 3 weeks, a friendly email poke should be fine. Not sure why he thinks it would piss the guy off though.

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El_Richo he thinks we should leave it another while as the LMO process takes a while and also the job wasn't advertised when hubby applied. We have noticed since ,that they have advertised 2 posts and they run until the end of August. We know that an employer has to prove advertising as part of the LMO process so hubby is assuming this is why it's taking more time.

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So he's been interviewed and they confirmed he has the job pending LMO?

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Not interviewed as such, it was more a conversation over the phone.

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Then he should follow up with an email just to keep in the loop, in my opinion. Especially in the situation this appears to be.

An offer to pop out to meet people could be helpful if finances allow. Consider it a speculation.

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If he doesnt have an offer in writing, then its not worth the paper its printed on. I wouldnt be making any plans until you have that and the LMO/ TWP are well in progress.

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I would definately do what El Richo says.

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I think you need to email him 100%.

What if?

The guy you spoke to told his bigger boss or joint partner and they decided not to hire as its a hassle gettin an lmo.

So they did not contact you and instead put an add out to find a new guy/gal.

Email with a read reply should do it.

Call their bluff and say you visiting rellies and could pop in, in sept. Then book a trip quick if you get a positive reply.

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An e-mail is unlikely to hurt. Don't hold your breath waiting for a reply. Job hunting is a waiting game in North America, often littered with disappointment.

Saying you are coming over may get you a meeting, but unlikely to change any decision already made or speed up any process. Making up stories as has been suggested is pointless, you get found out and maybe goodbye job possibilities.

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Not sure i'd use that one. No need to lie just yet.

In this situation, i do think an offer to head out could be helpful. A simple message telling them that you are excited about the opportunity and would be very interested in travelling to meet with them to discuss further. Also a note saying you're happy to talk further via phone if needed.

Either way, your husband does need to make contact, in my opinion.

Play it cool Trig, play it cool.

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I would say not to do this. It really pisses me off when people ask for read receipts etc as it's just an underhand way of getting me to reply because they expect the email to be ignored. Admittedly, I do ignore them, and have told outlook to not send read receipts if they are requested.

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+1

Don't do that.

I haven't had one for a long time now though but i recall (maybe incorrectly) you have the option to send the receipt or not upon reading the email.

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You have the option to always send a "Read Receipt", never send one or have Outlook ask you each time if you want to send one. ;)

Options-Mail-Tracking.

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Yes. I think the default is to ask but I have mine set to never. People that ask for read receipts ...:frown:... just don't do it.

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Or maybe they just want to know that you got it? With spam filters and the like it never does any hard to ask in my opinion. There is no obligation to reply.

Doesnt bother me any, and on the whole its less invasive than having him call, which would appear to be the alternative.

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No i mean the receiver of the email has the option to send the receipt or not.

Edit: Re-reading, i thinks that what you said.

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Adding a read receipt request says to the recipient "I don't trust you to reply to me without me forcing you to do so because I'll know whether you have read this or not".

If it's a prospective employer it's not worth the risk that they won't see it this way imo.

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By George I think he's got it. :p

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It says "I dont trust my email not to have been filtered into your junk mail" actually.

One or more person at my work picked up a virus that resulted in their emails sending out a ton of spam. This in turn resulted for a while with the company domain name ending up on some of the AV spam lists, so mail sent to people who subscribed to those services automatically had all mail from our business end up in the junk folder.

Only because of some people using read receipts did it become quickly obvious that there was a problem that could be rectified. Thats the story I was told anyway...

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:p

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Sure, that's your perception of it.

If the OP is mailing you it will be fine, if they are mailing me then their email will be ignored. Why take the risk that an employer will take the same view as me? I bet I'm not that unusual in not liking read receipt requests.

(obviously this won't work if your job is selling viagra, or watches, or penis extenders)

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If they want to hire him and are decent employers who want to address his concern, then they will reply anyway.

Honestly you and richo are the first people who have ever expressed any negative vibe about dealing with a read receipt request in my experience. By all means dont return it, but I think you are reading way too much into it. I certainly dont expect an instant response, I just want to know it made it to your inbox and that you are not away from work for the next three weeks.

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Funnily enough you are the first person I've heard of that doesn't find them irritating in some way. I don't think I'm reading too much into it - magnumpi suggested it in the first place because he thought it would be less likely to be ignored.

Anyway - there are a couple of people at work who use them a lot. Well they did, I don't know if they still do because my email is set to never send them and not tell me about it.

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LOL I must admit that myself and many of my colleagues are the same when it comes to read receipts. When prompted we always decline to send the receipts back. Just don't like them. .

Anyways - agree with what everyone is saying. Send an email - only showing you are still interested and I think looks better than not showing interest. My process to get a job via emails took months when I think in UK it would have been done in a couple of weeks. Things move slow here. I always chased after a period of 2 weeks with no response - sometimes even a week :)

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On the calling bluff bit.

I had a similar positive response from my current employer and emailed them saying we over in a few weeks and could i pop in for a chat.

Admitidly i was self employed and we were planning a 2 week trip anyhooo, and i do have rellies ere. We brought the trip fwd and all was good. Met the big boss within a few weeks and got the job.

Its not a lie if you guna do it, is it?

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Ok update!!

We emailed asking if there was any progress (without the read receipt) no reply as yet but then again we dont expect instant replies so now just waiting to see what happens.

We are actually going to Calgary in October for 2 weeks so a face to face meeting will be our next strategy.

We have arranged 2 other meetings while we are there so still keeping all options open.

Thanks for all the advice, really do appreciate it.

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That's what the Out of Office reply is for :).

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Good Luck :)

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Thank you :D

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My experience with Canadian employers is that they ignore emails. Maybe they all got sick of waiting for a read receipt from Alan2005 :)

If it were me, I would phone the employer. This is exactly what I did and it resulted in my current employment. If a phone call from a prospective employee seeking clarification annoys them, believe me, you don't want to work there.

Good luck :fingerscrossed:

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Phone call is the next step after an email, but you dont want to be too pushy. Its a balancing act.


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