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scrubbedexpat091 Aug 21st 2019 1:44 pm

Re: Electricity usage really high
 
One upside to apartment dwelling, electric costs tend to be low. $43 last month, no a/c though but electric oven, washer/dryer.

Last summer when we had a portable a/c unit looks like our bill was $57/month average Jun to end of Aug, highest bill tends to be Dec & Jan around $65 per month average.


Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 12725862)
Similar pattern here

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...06ef05850c.png

You may be surprised at how much the AC costs. When we first moved our monthly bills were around $170 but when we used AC most days around $350 and $450 when heating used.

Heat pump system


Hurlabrick Aug 21st 2019 2:41 pm

Re: Electricity usage really high
 
We live in a ranch (bungalow) with a basement (of course), probably 1700 sq ft above grade in London ON. Use AC, electric DW, washing machine, but gas water heater and gas heating. Electric consumption is:

Mar 2019: 1056kwh
Apr 2019: 502kwh
May 2019: 501kwh
Jun 2019: 1000kwh

Ooops - forgot to mention we have a hot tub that we switched off while we went to the UK for 3 weeks between April and May!

thistlehollyberry Aug 21st 2019 8:28 pm

Re: Electricity usage really high
 

Originally Posted by Caro90 (Post 12726014)
This is the water heater.
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...0dd7b50b92.jpg
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Automatic storage heater... Gas type "natural". So would that still use (a lot of) electricity? 🤔

That is a gas water heater and shouldn't use much electricity. It is likely the air conditioner that is using the power.

Caro90 Aug 21st 2019 9:46 pm

Re: Electricity usage really high
 

Originally Posted by thistlehollyberry (Post 12726084)
That is a gas water heater and shouldn't use much electricity. It is likely the air conditioner that is using the power.

Thank you :)

BristolUK Aug 22nd 2019 2:05 am

Re: Electricity usage really high
 

Originally Posted by Caro90 (Post 12726007)
Thank you. I have gone around the house and closed around five unnecessarily open dampers. They are pretty rubbish (old?) though so there is still some air coming through. Do you think it would be worthwhile standing a box on top of those vents just to make sure they're properly blocked?

Coincidentally I read something about that a few days ago. It can help...but not on the return ones that don't blow ;)


...even when it is not on as in blowing out air, it still made a noise. It was on an auto setting which said it would blow out cold air for at least 5 mins per hour, whatever that means.
This is where you think to yourself "It's set to cool down to 23c and it's only going to use up power when it's blowing cool air" but is in fact still running.

It's not using as much electrickery when not blowing but still using some. The outside unit thingy stops and starts even if no air is blowing at those times for example.

Ceiling fans are supposed to be good for circulating the air (when heating or cooling) allowing a lower or higher setting.

Other things to do include window blinds to keep the heat from the sun out of rooms. When you've been here in the winter and you can feel the heat from the sun through the windows, even though it's 30 below outside, you get to appreciate how much heat you can feel from the sun and that tells you blocking it out (shame though that may be) helps keeping the room cooler.

I have also found that turning the AC off completely, keeping the windows closed, you can maintain a comfortable temperature for a few hours anyway. This will depend on outside humidity and whether the sun is up yet or whether you're in an extended period of humidity/heat. You just have to experiment and be flexible.

I find AC is sometimes needed for the night only (for sleeping), other times for evening only with the outside air cooling things off for night and then there are days when it may be on 24/7 for an extended period.

chawkins99 Aug 22nd 2019 3:22 am

Re: Electricity usage really high
 
Just for some perspective, I am currently living in my RV (around 350sqft) in NW Florida. My electric bill for last month was $256 for 1516 kwh. We have 2 roof-mounted A/C units which run continuously during the day and cycle on/off at night.

Air conditioning is expensive. :nod:

Caro90 Aug 23rd 2019 12:56 pm

Re: Electricity usage really high
 

Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 12726216)
Coincidentally I read something about that a few days ago. It can help...but not on the return ones that don't blow ;)


This is where you think to yourself "It's set to cool down to 23c and it's only going to use up power when it's blowing cool air" but is in fact still running.

It's not using as much electrickery when not blowing but still using some. The outside unit thingy stops and starts even if no air is blowing at those times for example.

Ceiling fans are supposed to be good for circulating the air (when heating or cooling) allowing a lower or higher setting.

Other things to do include window blinds to keep the heat from the sun out of rooms. When you've been here in the winter and you can feel the heat from the sun through the windows, even though it's 30 below outside, you get to appreciate how much heat you can feel from the sun and that tells you blocking it out (shame though that may be) helps keeping the room cooler.

I have also found that turning the AC off completely, keeping the windows closed, you can maintain a comfortable temperature for a few hours anyway. This will depend on outside humidity and whether the sun is up yet or whether you're in an extended period of humidity/heat. You just have to experiment and be flexible.

I find AC is sometimes needed for the night only (for sleeping), other times for evening only with the outside air cooling things off for night and then there are days when it may be on 24/7 for an extended period.

Yep exactly that! We have now done it so the aircon cools down the house (a little more than we used to before) in the evening when off peak kicks in and then turn it off completely when we go to bed (rather than leaving it on auto with a high max temp so it won't come on) and then we usually don't need it on again until the following evening. I guess it helps that it is currently a little cooler outside, even during the day.

Good point re the blinds as well. I used to open them all, especially downstairs, when I got up in the morning to let lots of light in. Now I keep them closed on the east side until the sun has disappeared around the corner.

We have been experimenting like this a bit and it seems to have done the trick! I have been taking an electricity reading every 24 hours for 3 days now, and for the latest 24 hour period the usage has reduced from around 40 kwh to 22 kwh! I am very chuffed with this if we can keep it up and stay comfortable! :thumbsup:

Mike Gas Aug 23rd 2019 5:46 pm

Re: Electricity usage really high
 
That water heater uses zero electricity as there is no electrical supply connected to it.;)

But it looks like it is or has been leaking water but the stains on the floor, would recommend you get someone to check it out

Edo Aug 26th 2019 6:21 am

Re: Electricity usage really high
 

Originally Posted by Caro90 (Post 12725800)
This may be a bit of how long is a piece of string but I am wondering if anyone has any advice or experience on this.

We moved to Ottawa a couple of months ago and I noticed that our electricity bill seemed relatively high. I then noticed that we used 1,111 kwh of electricity in 29 days which is around 3 times as much as we did in the UK.

We haven't changed any habits or anything like that. We try to use the air con as little as possible and when it's cheaper ie off peak. We charge laptops and phones, and do our washing overnight when it's cheaper etc. We had the hot water tank on medium high before so turned that down to low in case it made a difference but we still used 44 kwh in 24 hours.

The house is a 4 bed place with a basement. There is me, my husband and our toddler. We are sort of at a loose end now as to what could use so much electricity. Also, interestingly, even though all the electricity we consciously use (like charging stuff etc) is off peak, the usage of off, mid and on peak electricity is as if we did not try to use it at off peak at all. That makes me think it's something that's on permanently...

Sorry for the rambling! I hope that makes some sense. Thank you!

The basics first, have you checked whats printed on your bill against the electricity meter? Just like the utility companies back home some Canadian providers also love to calculate bills based on estimates.

Caro90 Aug 26th 2019 7:27 am

Re: Electricity usage really high
 

Originally Posted by Mike Gas (Post 12726785)
That water heater uses zero electricity as there is no electrical supply connected to it.;)

But it looks like it is or has been leaking water but the stains on the floor, would recommend you get someone to check it out

Thanks, will do. I hadn't even noticed!

Caro90 Aug 26th 2019 7:28 am

Re: Electricity usage really high
 

Originally Posted by Edo (Post 12727750)
The basics first, have you checked whats printed on your bill against the electricity meter? Just like the utility companies back home some Canadian providers also love to calculate bills based on estimates.

Yep that's why I took some daily readings and it ties up.

shelley748 Aug 29th 2019 7:07 am

Re: Electricity usage really high
 
We found the same when we moved to Canada- its also to do with the fact that the electricity voltage system is different and less efficient than the 240V system in the UK. We used to use 750KW a quarter in the UK and we use that a month over here.


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