Dual UK / Canadian citizen stranded in Jamaica
#1

Made CTV news.
https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/canadian-told-he-can-t-board-flight-home-from-jamaica-because-of-rule-he-didn-t-know-existed-1.4822598
Tough on people if they don't know!
https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/canadian-told-he-can-t-board-flight-home-from-jamaica-because-of-rule-he-didn-t-know-existed-1.4822598
Tough on people if they don't know!

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Well its not like its a brand new rule (2016) and that the information isn't available on numerous websites. Sort of like people who are PR's travelling without PR cards. Before booking flights did they bother to check the current regulations? They booked with Air Canada well surprise its not like they don't have that information on their website
https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/...documents.html
OK so he has done it before but hey many years ago you didn't need a passport to fly to certain countries so can I use that as an excuse? Again another story which is one sided but no mention of their personal responsibilities and granted if it was just him yes I would have more sympathy but his daughter looks capable enough of looking into this.
https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/canadian-...sted-1.4822598
OK I will go and have my 1st cup of coffee
https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/...documents.html
OK so he has done it before but hey many years ago you didn't need a passport to fly to certain countries so can I use that as an excuse? Again another story which is one sided but no mention of their personal responsibilities and granted if it was just him yes I would have more sympathy but his daughter looks capable enough of looking into this.
https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/canadian-...sted-1.4822598
OK I will go and have my 1st cup of coffee


#3

Soon after being made citizens, we had to travel back to the UK.
We left using our Canadian passports, proud new citizens.
Got to Gatwick and saw the international queue and the empty biometric gates and immediately became proud Brits again.
When we returned to Halifax the CBSA officer inspected our once again proud Canadian passports, looking for evidence of landing abroad.
Having not found a corresponding landing stamp, she looked up and said, "you saw the queues in the UK and used your UK passports didn't you"
In a child like haze I said "esss officer"
She then let us know her husband was from the UK and when they had gone back he had done exactly the same leaving her and the kids to go through international. I never asked what his fate was.
We left using our Canadian passports, proud new citizens.
Got to Gatwick and saw the international queue and the empty biometric gates and immediately became proud Brits again.
When we returned to Halifax the CBSA officer inspected our once again proud Canadian passports, looking for evidence of landing abroad.
Having not found a corresponding landing stamp, she looked up and said, "you saw the queues in the UK and used your UK passports didn't you"
In a child like haze I said "esss officer"
She then let us know her husband was from the UK and when they had gone back he had done exactly the same leaving her and the kids to go through international. I never asked what his fate was.


#4

I'd wager most people on here who have and routinely renew both passports likely only use their Canadian one for Canada and the US. Canadian citizenship offers pretty much zero advantage over British once you leave those two countries.

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#6

In any case it shouldn't be an issue now anyway for you since Canadians are on the e-gate whitelist in the UK.

#8

Use the eGates for quicker entry
There are over 250 eGates in place at 15 air and rail ports in the UK to enable quicker travel into the UK.You can normally use eGates if you:
- have a biometric symbol on the cover of your passport
- are aged 12+ (12 to 17 year olds must be accompanied by an adult)
- are either:
- a British citizen
- a national of an EU country, Australia, Canada, Iceland, Japan, Liechtenstein, New Zealand, Norway, Singapore, South Korea, Switzerland or the USA
- a member of the Registered Traveller Service
eGates eligibility and how to use the eGates

#9

Nearly 24 hours after they were originally scheduled to depart Jamaica, the pair flew to Buffalo, N.Y., a city next to Niagara Falls, Ont. They rented a car and drove across the border without issue and arrived home safely.

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DigitalGhost, maybe he already had a valid ESTA on that passport?
The elderly gentleman's British passport (shown in the article) does not have the words "European Union" on its cover. Meaning it has been issued within the last year. What an interesting decision for a Canadian living in Canada - applying for a British passport and using it as the sole travel document.
The elderly gentleman's British passport (shown in the article) does not have the words "European Union" on its cover. Meaning it has been issued within the last year. What an interesting decision for a Canadian living in Canada - applying for a British passport and using it as the sole travel document.

#11

Soon after being made citizens, we had to travel back to the UK.
We left using our Canadian passports, proud new citizens.
Got to Gatwick and saw the international queue and the empty biometric gates and immediately became proud Brits again.
When we returned to Halifax the CBSA officer inspected our once again proud Canadian passports, looking for evidence of landing abroad.
Having not found a corresponding landing stamp, she looked up and said, "you saw the queues in the UK and used your UK passports didn't you"
In a child like haze I said "esss officer"
She then let us know her husband was from the UK and when they had gone back he had done exactly the same leaving her and the kids to go through international. I never asked what his fate was.
We left using our Canadian passports, proud new citizens.
Got to Gatwick and saw the international queue and the empty biometric gates and immediately became proud Brits again.
When we returned to Halifax the CBSA officer inspected our once again proud Canadian passports, looking for evidence of landing abroad.
Having not found a corresponding landing stamp, she looked up and said, "you saw the queues in the UK and used your UK passports didn't you"
In a child like haze I said "esss officer"
She then let us know her husband was from the UK and when they had gone back he had done exactly the same leaving her and the kids to go through international. I never asked what his fate was.

Besides, there's nothing illegal about dual citizenship in Canada so if asked i'd just pull out my Maltese passport.

#12

DigitalGhost, maybe he already had a valid ESTA on that passport?
The elderly gentleman's British passport (shown in the article) does not have the words "European Union" on its cover. Meaning it has been issued within the last year. What an interesting decision for a Canadian living in Canada - applying for a British passport and using it as the sole travel document.
The elderly gentleman's British passport (shown in the article) does not have the words "European Union" on its cover. Meaning it has been issued within the last year. What an interesting decision for a Canadian living in Canada - applying for a British passport and using it as the sole travel document.
Agree with FL - the regulation has been in place for almost 5 years now, people need to read up and know the rules. But if they were sensible and just had both passports valid and on them at all times while travelling then it wouldn't be an issue.

#13

How long ago was this? I've never had a CBSA officer look through my Canadian passport for entry stamps. A lot of places (including the UK now that Canadians can go through the eGates) don't stamp Canadian passports.
Besides, there's nothing illegal about dual citizenship in Canada so if asked i'd just pull out my Maltese passport.
Besides, there's nothing illegal about dual citizenship in Canada so if asked i'd just pull out my Maltese passport.

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I like how she places all the blame on the airline, and who travels without sufficient medications in event of a delay? I always travel with at least 1 week extra of medication.
Glad I only have to fuss with 1 passport...
Glad I only have to fuss with 1 passport...

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I think it's just more that the UK has a reputation for insane waiting times at international airports these days, especially LHR, LGW and MAN. That's one of the reasons why they expanded eGate use beyond the EU to a small number of other low risk nationalities. Two years ago wait times of 2.5 hours were acknowledged for non-EU passport holders at Heathrow.
