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Old Jun 30th 2022, 5:21 pm
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Originally Posted by bats
Do people have real driving lessons in Canada? I've always thought that one of the reasons for the poor driving is that everyone is taught by their parents when they are 16. The learners are 16 not the parents. Natch.
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Old Jun 30th 2022, 9:20 pm
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I wonder if they teach hill starts or how to park on hill type roads in Manitoba and Saskatchewan?
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Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian
I wonder if they teach hill starts or how to park on hill type roads in Manitoba and Saskatchewan?
I seem to recall that they removed parallel parking away from the test in Ontario recently.
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Old Jul 2nd 2022, 3:28 pm
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Quite easy to fail the driving test in BC, there are a few auto-fail criteria that are easy to do because of other road users, such as cutting someone off even if they are speeding for example.
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Originally Posted by Partially discharged
I seem to recall that they removed parallel parking away from the test in Ontario recently.
Indeed they did. They also removed emergency stop and three point turn as well. Those changes are also now in place "until further notice" as of June 30th 2022.

Not sure I agree with it to be honest. Sure, I'm useless at parallel parking, but knowing how to do it and having to do it to pass your test is important.
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Indeed they did. They also removed emergency stop and three point turn as well. Those changes are also now in place "until further notice" as of June 30th 2022.

Not sure I agree with it to be honest. Sure, I'm useless at parallel parking, but knowing how to do it and having to do it to pass your test is important.
I routinely parallel park in a manual transmission car in one consistent movement between parked cars. Pull up to the steering wheel of the car in front and reverse in one continuous movement and don't turn too sharp or you will hit the curb. These 'new fangled' parking assist features on cars are making us very lazy. No three point turn? Crazy.
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Originally Posted by Partially discharged
I routinely parallel park in a manual transmission car in one consistent movement between parked cars. Pull up to the steering wheel of the car in front and reverse in one continuous movement and don't turn too sharp or you will hit the curb. These 'new fangled' parking assist features on cars are making us very lazy. No three point turn? Crazy.
My greatest personal success in Canada was cleanly reversing a Suzuki Vitara into a space barely longer than the vehicle. A passer-by applauded.

It was outside the Feathers. I hadn't intended to go to the Feathers but one so rarely sees a spot there that I had to take it, I walked the rest of the way home.
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So for us old timers who learned to parallel park, start and park on a hill, how to join a motorway, a three point turn one wonders what they are teaching the young un's today?

How to use the hands free option when driving with a smart phone, what D1 D2 & D3 are on a vehicle, that STOP signs and speed limits are just suggestions (yes I know some of us are also guilty of this), which map app is the best to use?
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Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian
So for us old timers who learned to parallel park, start and park on a hill, how to join a motorway, a three point turn one wonders what they are teaching the young un's today?

How to use the hands free option when driving with a smart phone, what D1 D2 & D3 are on a vehicle, that STOP signs and speed limits are just suggestions (yes I know some of us are also guilty of this), which map app is the best to use?
The rot started with that synchromesh gimmick.
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Originally Posted by dbd33
The rot started with that synchromesh gimmick.
I wonder how many on here have had to double-declutch!
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I wonder how many on here have had to double-declutch!
Errr not showing my age but learning to drive in an Army Land Rover and a Police Driving Course then double de clutching is a MUST DO.
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I wonder how many on here have had to double-declutch!
I had a recent JD tractor with a crash box. That was massively impractical. It's ok, fun even, to have to match revs and heel-and-toe in a sports car but, on a tractor, it means constant gear changing.
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Originally Posted by bats
Do people have real driving lessons in Canada? I've always thought that one of the reasons for the poor driving is that everyone is taught by their parents when they are 16. The learners are 16 not the parents. Natch.
They do have real driving lessons, but they're expensive and they're not mandated nor taught in public school. Driving schools vary in quality, too. Driving school isn't required to pass your driving test. Plus, each province regulates its own road rules, licenses, and driving tests, and usually the driving "culture" varies too. "Zipper" merge is a practice taught in BC but unheard of in Manitoba, for example. Some provinces are more rigorous than others. Also, Canadians mostly drive automatic transmission. If you have the funds, you might enroll in driving lessons as a teen, but many don't.

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Originally Posted by Lychee
They do have real driving lessons, but they're expensive and they're not mandated nor taught in public school. Driving schools vary in quality, too. Driving school isn't required to pass your driving test. Plus, each province regulates its own road rules, licenses, and driving tests, and usually the driving "culture" varies too. "Zipper" merge is a practice taught in BC but unheard of in Manitoba, for example. Some provinces are more rigorous than others. Also, Canadians mostly drive automatic transmission. If you have the funds, you might enroll in driving lessons as a teen, but many don't.
In the GTA, and presumably other populated parts of Canada, more than half the population was born outside Canada. Many, perhaps most of them, will have learned to drive outside Canada so whatever lessons are offered here aren't to blame for the general awfulness of the driving. Specific things, yes, driving in any lane at any speed is a Canadian thing, so is turning by moving into the oncoming lane of the road you're on and turning into the oncoming lane of the target road. Indicating before turning isn't something people who grew up here have considered.

Immigrant drivers won't have behaved in these ways in their home countries, they must adapt after arriving. Undertaking is an example, it took me ages to get used to passing on the wrong side but now I do it routinely. If a road widens so there are two lanes in the direction of travel, the Canadian will usually take the outside lane so I go inside. Living in Canada diminishes us, we can still drive, but no longer do so well.


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Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian
Errr not showing my age but learning to drive in an Army Land Rover and a Police Driving Course then double de clutching is a MUST DO.
I wasn't police, but had to attend their driving courses while in the Army. Being in the jock-strap position and opening the throttle at the GLF signs were things that my wife became sick of hearing about. No double entendre intended.
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