Grayling

How do you know it is one of the best countries in the world to live

You have never lived there but you still like to spout your 'wisdom' to would be migrants.

Jules Europe

I am sure they don`t need my wisdom to make up their minds. They are all consenting adults you know!!!! Instead of reading my stuff why don`t you look at the many posts by people on the Canadian forum and it may surprise you that the majority are enjoying their new lives in Canada.

I find it rather strange that somebody who I believe lives in Australia (if not correct me) would be so concerned by me "spouting out my wisdom" I suggest you jump on a surf board and go and chill out. Saying that though is must be mighty hot there right now:curse:

christmasoompa

How is there no comparison? Can you explain the difference to me because I sure as hell can't see it!! We are doing the same as anybody else on this forum who is intending to move permanently (i.e. leaving our home, our friends and our family, selling cars, moving to another country with all of our worldly possessions, children and pets, and setting up home there).

I don't see how on earth we're any different from anybody else on this forum - we're all going through exactly the same process to get there, whatever our reasons. And although we don't intend to stay in Canada forever (although as I've always said, we'll never say never), our children will go to school there, we will pay taxes, my husband will contribute to the country, we will try and integrate with the community and settle as much as we can. So what's the difference between us and anybody else?

Nowhere on any definition of immigration or emigration have I found something that says it only applies to permanent situations. As far as I'm concerned, we are still emigrating.

Nu-Shooz

Hot!!! it's bloody freezing. It does get cold in OZ you know

Jules Europe

Think you will find that moving is one of the most stressful things one can do, moving to another country has even higher stress values as well. Settling into your new country or location even if you like it is still stressful, so totally disagree with what you just said. Add all the hassle of the Canadian immigration procedure into this and it is rather a stressful experience for the many people involved.

You make the whole process sound as easy as clicking your fingers. Maybe if one is a millionaire this may be the case.

christmasoompa

You've clearly missed my point.

What I was trying to understand is why Chumley can say we are 'just going to work in a foreign country' and are 'entirely different from applying for PR' - I want to know how exactly he thinks it's different? We're going through the same 'family moving countries' process as anybody going via PR (and as you said, we will find 'settling into your new country or location' as stressful as anybody else - possibly more so because we don't love it already).

Granted, we don't have the stress of the 'hassle of the Canadian immigration procedure' that you mentioned, but nobody going via a TWP does. And bearing in mind the majority of people on this forum are now going to Canada via a TWP as it's one of the only ways to get there, I fail to see how we are different from them.

Jules Europe

Aren`t you in your summer there? Perth I remember was sweltering when I went there this time of year!!! Where are you referring to in Australia being cold right now? When I mention cold weather I hardly think its a fair comparison to compare the coldness of Canada to the coldness of an Australian winter.

Nu-Shooz

Yes i am in Perth and for November it is cold....strange weather at the moment. We are having winter weather in spring. Plus heavy rain and wind, brrrr. Temps drop 2c at night, with no central heating it feels like i live in a cave.
But it will get warmer, just very cold now.

chumley

[QUOTE=christmasoompa;6938728]You've clearly missed my point.

What I was trying to understand is why Chumley can say we are 'just going to work in a foreign country' and are 'entirely different from applying for PR' - I want to know how exactly he thinks it's different? We're going through the same 'family moving countries' process as anybody going via PR (and as you said, we will find 'settling into your new country of location' as stressful as anybody else - possibly more so because we don't love it already).

Granted, we don't have the stress of the 'hassle of the Canadian immigration procedure' that you mentioned, but nobody going via a TWP does. And bearing in mind the majority of people on this forum are now going to Canada via a TWP as it's the only way to get there, I fail to see how we are different from them.

if you dont love it already then why take the risk??? or do you have no choice???and twp is not the only way????????

Jules Europe

Based on what you have written now, then there is really no real difference. May well be even more difficult for you as well because your decision is not being based on PR and your situation may well just be a temporary scenario. You may also have all the hassle of moving back again one day as well to contend with.

christmasoompa

Exactly. Glad you understood my point, we're no different to anybody else on this forum and are going through the same process, we just have different motives that's all.

christmasoompa

We are moving because my husband is being transferred with work.

Granted, we could not go but if he then turns down this opportunity, he is incredibly unlikely to ever be offered another one again and will have no way of progressing in his career. In his particular field, international experience is essential if you want to get anywhere. His company have offered him what is in essence a huge promotion - how would it look if he said no to it? They'd never bother again.

Obviously if we really didn't want to go then we wouldn't but I have nothing against Canada (it's not somewhere I love but not somewhere I hate either) and it will be a good opportunity to experience life abroad for a few years, and for our children to learn French and to ski more than once a year as they do now. Canada is a lot better than some of the places he could have been sent! It's just not somewhere that I have a burning passion or love for, which you seem to think everybody emigrating there must have.

And yes, TWP is not the only way but I said the majority of people are having to go via a TWP now the rules have changed - obviously there are those that are applying under spousal or family sponsorship or the NS CIS, but they are in the minority.

Jules Europe

Personally I hate the hot weather unless it is for holidays etc. If I knew that Perth for example was like how you describe for much of the year I would actually think about moving there. Reason is regardless of what some people think on this forum, I found Perth to be a great place to live and I also love the city. Also the negative attitude that certain people have put forth on this forum toward Aussies, I also have found to be totally inaccurate, I have always found them to be among the most easy going of all the English speaking peoples

Nu-Shooz

When it gets hot, it gets hot 45c last Xmas, just horrible. Hate all the damn flies too, they spoil it more than anything. But it is cold in winter.

I have no probs with any Aussies, but the driving here stinks.

Anyway i'm off back to UK, done my time here.

Jules Europe

Where I live it gets to 40c and over in the summer months and its like this every day!!! for like over 2 months and its disgusting!!!!!!!!!!! Like where you are its cold here in winter especially in the mornings and evenings but usually sunny in the days and can get quite hot in winter when the sun is out. So its either hot or cold with not much else in between. People often criticize the British weather but at least the 4 seasons are hidden in there somewhere.