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raine66 Nov 3rd 2008 1:49 pm

Re: Don't Trash the UK!
 

Originally Posted by chumley (Post 6937565)
whats jane and finch never heard of it?

why not? why would anyone want to immigrate to a country they dont adore madness I say

but once again I repeat once again this is my view :D

have noticed bits of my post have been quoted a few times throughout this most interesting thread

and I stand by everything

for those that have asked I have lived all over the Uk including Alnwick which is supposedly the best place in england to live and in hampshire and wilshire plus wales:thumbdown::thumbdown:

and I dont consider myself a low life skanky:ohmy:

privatly educated decades as a civil servant ,lawyers wife then army wife owned own resturant business in rural cumbria
I have lived in some of the so called nicest areas of the UK and I have never been touched by crinme either

so whoever suggested that my experience of the uk was in some slum and with no cash hasnt quite got it right

its just the way |I am
I have a genuine deep passion for canada and I am saddened when I hear of folk wanting to come here who do not share that passion each to their own but I wonder what their motivation must be?

the Uk is full of folk complaining about immigrants who do not love the UK and who do not adapt and adopt local ways and many of the same folk winge about canada?? or gain a precious visa then give up and go back to whence they came???

as for things being the same in canada re going to work stresses etc welll for us that doesnt exist we dont work ,our unearned income easily meets a very comfortable lifestlye here.

If and when we get PR and we are able to establish a small business here our additional income will be a bonus

yes we are very fortunate and in the minority and yes I agree if folk are expecting the streets to be paved with gold they could well fail

horses for courses and all that

it would be impossible for us to match our new lifestlye in the UK and I mean anyhwere in the UK

to sum it all up we do not even own a key to our canadian home let alone lock the door .... need I say more

You obviously have some spare cash on you since 'your unearned income easy meets a very comfortable lifestyle', I would suggest you take some of that cash and get yourself a spelling and grammar course, since that private education you had obviously failed.

jempee Nov 3rd 2008 3:56 pm

Re: Don't Trash the UK!
 

Originally Posted by raine66 (Post 6937665)
You obviously have some spare cash on you since 'your unearned income easy meets a very comfortable lifestyle', I would suggest you take some of that cash and get yourself a spelling and grammar course, since that private education you had obviously failed.

Oh please, why is it that you lot always revert to the old spelling and grammar blah blah blah...its a forum not a spelling/grammar/essay test!;)

Nu-Shooz Nov 3rd 2008 4:01 pm

Re: Don't Trash the UK!
 

Originally Posted by earlswoody (Post 6933034)
Good post, the UK is a great place to live and I did not realise how good it was till I moved to Australia:unsure::

Ditto.

Jules Europe Nov 3rd 2008 7:14 pm

Re: Don't Trash the UK!
 

Originally Posted by raine66 (Post 6937348)
if you are satisifed with your lot in that beautiful clean, low crime, fair, Uk society of giving rather than taking, where you can walk the streets in safety where being PC does not get in the way of living, where the state does not dictate your every move blah blah blah then why oh why are you leaving??

Fancy a walk down Jane & Finch tonight, let's see how safe you feel then?

If you come to canada then your heart and sole should be canadian should it not?
Why?

Before you criticize the spelling of others, I think you will find its SOUL and not SOLE unless of course you are referring to shoes or something here:p

Jules Europe Nov 3rd 2008 7:26 pm

Re: Don't Trash the UK!
 

Originally Posted by Kittykerr (Post 6937554)
I live in Calgary and as a young woman, I dont feel safe walking through the city on my own during the day!!!!
The amount of homeless and drug users on he streets during the daytime is scary! I drive EVERYWHERE because im scared to walk to the local shop!!
Its not all great here!!!
Granted I wouldnt feel v. safe walking through some parts of London my my own either, but as for the city centre of London, I have walked by myself many times and not felt so intimidated as I do here!!

I cant wait to move out to the suburbs!!!!! (Thats something I thought I would never say!!!)

Thats big city life for you and most cities have their bad areas. When I first went to the UK, I met some people who were from out of London and they advised me, that when travelling even by car and going through certain areas of the city by day, that the windows and doors should be locked just in case. Personally I found that to be a load of nonsense and felt no threat whatever. Can`t speak about Calgary though as never having been there but can speak of Vancouver with its misfortunates but again never actually felt threatened there either. Saying that though, travelling by day is a very different prospect than travelling by night.

Jules Europe Nov 3rd 2008 7:46 pm

Re: Don't Trash the UK!
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 6937611)
Jane and Finch is an intersection in Toronto. The surrounding area is renowned for shootings.

People move countries for all manner of reasons, for example, MEPs go to work in Belgium, do you think they, or anyone, loves Belgium? How about the hotel workers in Dubai, do they adore the UAE? Oil workers in Nigeria? Miners in Fort McMoney? Prostitutes in London? How about people who develop relationships with foreigners and move to be with them? What of remittance men, packed off to the colonies? Brides of arranged marriages to foreigners? Refugees seeking a home in any safe country? People who just want to see "abroad"?

Emigrating for adoration is a rare thing and it's harsh to ridicule the reasons of those who do not have the option to move to the middle of nowhere and live on a private income.

Agree with the fact that people move for a myriad of reasons and some of these reasons can be forced upon certain people. Some of your above examples fall into two categories, those that are well paid and will go anywhere if the cash is right even if forced and those that go and do what they do for just survival. So obviously none of these are going for admiration of their new country.

Disagree though, with the fact that emigrating for adoration is a rare thing, as a lot of people do emigrate for principally THIS REASON. If they feel they can make it economically in another country, the lifestyle and culture are acceptable and language is not an issue, then they quite often make the choice to go to a country that they have some kind of affection for. If you look on this forum Canada, USA and Australia all score very highly on this and many would have gone there or want to go there out of choice. All score very highly on the previous points and the only really differing factor here that I can think of immediately is probably climate. If a person wants a warm climate they are hardly going to choose Canada. The USA on the other hand offers them climate choice but not the freedom for PR which is why both CAN and AUS will remain location favorites for immigrants around the world.

Personally I like Belgium so that`s an unfair assumption to make. The home of chocolate and Tintin can`t be all bad and Brugge is a lovely historical city. The country also offers excellent cuisine so I can think of many worse places to be sent to.

Jules Europe Nov 3rd 2008 9:20 pm

Re: Don't Trash the UK!
 

Originally Posted by Jules Europe (Post 6938222)
Before you criticize the spelling of others, I think you will find its SOUL and not SOLE unless of course you are referring to shoes or something here:p

Raine66 disregard this post of mine as it was the spelling error by the person that you quoted and not yours. Sorry for the accusation:lol:

chumley Nov 3rd 2008 9:33 pm

Re: Don't Trash the UK!
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 6937611)
Jane and Finch is an intersection in Toronto. The surrounding area is renowned for shootings.

People move countries for all manner of reasons, for example, MEPs go to work in Belgium, do you think they, or anyone, loves Belgium? How about the hotel workers in Dubai, do they adore the UAE? Oil workers in Nigeria? Miners in Fort McMoney? Prostitutes in London? How about people who develop relationships with foreigners and move to be with them? What of remittance men, packed off to the colonies? Brides of arranged marriages to foreigners? Refugees seeking a home in any safe country? People who just want to see "abroad"?

Emigrating for adoration is a rare thing and it's harsh to ridicule the reasons of those who do not have the option to move to the middle of nowhere and live on a private income.


not ridiculing anyone
I am happy enough and not in the least bitter so dont have the need to ridicule anyone?

and for the squillionth time Im talking about people who immigrate through choice which is the vast majority on here.
those that go to work on a temp basis purely for work are not by definition immigrants???

AND I am talking about Canada!!!
The pain stress and trauma of the immigration process surely means nobody in their right mind would put themselves through such uncertainty without having some passion for their destination and a strong desire to get out of the UK?

those that critisise my spelling thanks for making me smile:D what spolling mistooks:rofl:

chumley Nov 3rd 2008 9:37 pm

Re: Don't Trash the UK!
 

Originally Posted by raine66 (Post 6937665)
You obviously have some spare cash on you since 'your unearned income easy meets a very comfortable lifestyle', I would suggest you take some of that cash and get yourself a spelling and grammar course, since that private education you had obviously failed.


:lol: my fingers might not land on the correct keys but my education got me where I am today and very happy and at peace with life so it cant have been all bad;)

Elaine B. Nov 3rd 2008 9:37 pm

Re: Don't Trash the UK!
 

Originally Posted by chumley (Post 6938578)
not ridiculing anyone

AND I am talking about Canada!!!
The pain stress and trauma of the immigration process surely means nobody in their right mind would put themselves through such uncertainty without having some passion for their destination and a strong desire to get out of the UK?

If that's the case then you're probably right I was out of my mind when I moved to Canada, I knew there had to be some explaination:eek:

Jules Europe Nov 3rd 2008 9:47 pm

Re: Don't Trash the UK!
 

Originally Posted by chumley (Post 6938578)
not ridiculing anyone
I am happy enough and not in the least bitter so dont have the need to ridicule anyone?

and for the squillionth time Im talking about people who immigrate through choice which is the vast majority on here.
those that go to work on a temp basis purely for work are not by definition immigrants???

AND I am talking about Canada!!!
The pain stress and trauma of the immigration process surely means nobody in their right mind would put themselves through such uncertainty without having some passion for their destination and a strong desire to get out of the UK?

those that critisise my spelling thanks for making me smile:D what spolling mistooks:rofl:

A very good post especially the point about having passion for your chosen destination, because as you say who in their right mind would go through all the hassle of this process unless they had some kind of admiration for their chosen country. Lets face it Canada is probably one of the best countries in the world to live in as long as you don`t yearn for warm weather.

For some unknown reason DBD is very fond of pointing out the negatives of Canada for would be immigrants.:thumbdown: Hope he never has to go for a job at the Canadian tourist board:eek: Imagine it!!! After a few minutes talking to him, new would be immigrants would be taking quick u-turns and getting the first plane back to their original countries:ohmy: Have yet to actually find anything that he has written positive about Canada, so he may surprise us now and actually write something positive................But don`t hold your breath:D

The proof though is quite simple. Is Canada a better place to live than the UK? Well the majority of people on this forum seem to think so based on their posts. I am saying the UK here because this is where the vast majority of immigrants to Canada come from on this forum.

christmasoompa Nov 3rd 2008 9:54 pm

Re: Don't Trash the UK!
 

Originally Posted by chumley (Post 6938578)
The pain stress and trauma of the immigration process surely means nobody in their right mind would put themselves through such uncertainty without having some passion for their destination and a strong desire to get out of the UK?

What pain, stress and trauma? You're forgetting that those of us that are leaving on a 'temp basis purely for work' don't have any pain, stress or trauma as somebody else arranges everything.

We have no lengthy application process for PR and no LMO to apply for, unlike most people on here. Simply a two page form for a TWP.

All of our packing, pet passports & transport, house rental etc is being done for us. Even accommodation, schools and cars are being sorted for our arrival. My only job is to throw a few clothes in a suitcase just before we leave - hardly stressful or likely to put me off a great career opportunity for my husband.

:)

Grayling Nov 3rd 2008 9:55 pm

Re: Don't Trash the UK!
 

Originally Posted by Jules Europe (Post 6938616)
Lets face it Canada is probably one of the best countries in the world to live in as long as you don`t yearn for warm weather.

How do you know?:confused:

You have never lived there

chumley Nov 3rd 2008 9:56 pm

Re: Don't Trash the UK!
 

Originally Posted by christmasoompa (Post 6938637)
What pain, stress and trauma? You're forgetting that those of us that are leaving on a 'temp basis purely for work' don't have any pain, stress or trauma as somebody else arranges everything.

We have no lengthy application process for PR and no LMO to apply for, unlike most people on here. Simply a two page form for a TWP.

All of our packing, pet passports & transport, house rental etc is being done for us. Even accommodation, schools and cars are being sorted for our arrival. My only job is to throw a few clothes in a suitcase just before we leave - hardly stressful or likely to put me off a great job opportunity for my husband.

:)

thats not immigrating though is it! its simply going to work in a foreign country and entirely different from applying for PR there is just no comparison whatsoever

Jules Europe Nov 3rd 2008 9:59 pm

Re: Don't Trash the UK!
 

Originally Posted by Grayling (Post 6938642)
How do you know?:confused:

You have never lived there

Have you? And if there is a place in Canada that has warm weather for much of the year please inform me?


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