Does Canada = Utopia?
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I don't think the climate varies very much between Maine and New Brunswick, Ohio and Ontario, Montana and ..., well you get the idea.
Canada has universal healthcare and gay marriage, I don't belittle those differences, but what else? Canada and the US are equally engaged in attempts to subjugate foreign populations, they both indulge religionists (Ontario and Utah stand out as rare places where religion and education are confused), they're both societies in which big business dominates the political agenda. Differences are subtle indeed.
Apart from the two above, I think the main difference is that in Canada the music industry is subject to government regulation and that results in some truly awful noises emerging from the radio.
Canada has universal healthcare and gay marriage, I don't belittle those differences, but what else? Canada and the US are equally engaged in attempts to subjugate foreign populations, they both indulge religionists (Ontario and Utah stand out as rare places where religion and education are confused), they're both societies in which big business dominates the political agenda. Differences are subtle indeed.
Apart from the two above, I think the main difference is that in Canada the music industry is subject to government regulation and that results in some truly awful noises emerging from the radio.
For a poster in Nevada the weather contrast might be noticeable? If there is a Nevada like climate in Canada I have to admit I haven't noticed it.
I dont think canadian politicians are influenced by the religious right nearly as much, and the military budget and priority is not in the same league here as in the US, remember Canada is only responding to a UN resolution in Afghanistan, our politicians saw Iraq for what it really was. Generally Canada has a more permissive "live and let live" view on most things, but as you say, there is probably at least as much variation on a state to state or province to province basis as there is country to country.
Are you on about the catholic schools again? The catholic schools in Ontario are not compulsory, and the religious component does not seem to dominate in the case of my childs education at least, although shes only in grade 2 and that's just one school, I cant speak for the rest. I am not sure if the province shouldnt fund all religious based schools, or none of them... but as you know the catholic schooling option is all wrapped up in the history of confederation or something anyway....
Last edited by iaink; Feb 3rd 2010 at 1:29 pm.
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Yes, just trying to preempt any argument that religion has more influence in the US. Discrimination on the basis of religion is generally illegal in the US but government policy in Ontario. Polygamy is nominally illegal in both countries but tolerated in AZ and BC. Bad as each other.
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The UN resolution is, in my view, smoke and mirrors. Canada has troops in Afghanistan so as to allow the US to concentrate on Iraq. Regardless, in either country it's usual for poor redneck youths to die overseas, leading to an unpleasant "support our troops" right-wing undercurrent among the unhyphenated population.
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http://www.walmart.ca/Canada-Storefi...=1265210996002 not sure this will come up with the list of Alberta stores or not, but it's worth a try.
Super Centers sell a complete range of groceries including fruit and veg.
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Re: Does Canada = Utopia?
Hey there! I just want to get a opinion from brits living in Canada if it's really the Utopia it seems to be! I moved to America 5 years ago and go to Canada often on business and i'm always stunned at how much of Canada is nicer than the states despite the obvious similarities! Thanks guys
Main difference for me is that there is better social security up here than the US, less crime too, but everything is way more expensive. Differences are pretty subtle IMO.
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Nowhere = Utopia
Everywhere has good and bad and in terms of my own existence, the good in Canada outweighs the bad (that's why I intend to remain).
Everywhere has good and bad and in terms of my own existence, the good in Canada outweighs the bad (that's why I intend to remain).
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Hey there! I just want to get a opinion from brits living in Canada if it's really the Utopia it seems to be! I moved to America 5 years ago and go to Canada often on business and i'm always stunned at how much of Canada is nicer than the states despite the obvious similarities! Thanks guys
Good luck! A good start for your Grail quest, Sir BenNveer, might be this boiler. Maybe ask some [non-Calgary based] Canadians too, as others have suggested.
http://www.historywire.ca/en/post/19601
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Good luck! A good start for your Grail quest, Sir BenNveer, might be this boiler. Maybe ask some [non-Calgary based] Canadians too, as others have suggested.
http://www.historywire.ca/en/post/19601
http://www.historywire.ca/en/post/19601
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The US prides itself on its competitive environment so everyone is a threat. That's why you carry a gun.
In Canada it's more collaborative society. You don't need to carry a gun and you can leave doors unlocked in many places.
In Canada it's more collaborative society. You don't need to carry a gun and you can leave doors unlocked in many places.
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I go to both Toronto and Vancouver pretty often and also calgary a few times! When i'm there i always like to rent a car and go explore instead of just sitting in my hotel room! Of course i know no place is perfect but whenever i'm in Vancouver or Toronto i can't help but notice there are no ghettos, mostly pristine, educated immigrants, much better enviroment to raise a family and most people seem more wholesome and happy! Of course not without it's flaws Canada truely is a great country and by far one of the best in world for quality of life
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I go to both Toronto and Vancouver pretty often and also calgary a few times! When i'm there i always like to rent a car and go explore instead of just sitting in my hotel room! Of course i know no place is perfect but whenever i'm in Vancouver or Toronto i can't help but notice there are no ghettos, mostly pristine, educated immigrants, much better enviroment to raise a family and most people seem more wholesome and happy! Of course not without it's flaws Canada truely is a great country and by far one of the best in world for quality of life
http://scoutmagazine.ca/2010/02/02/w...ry/#more-16510
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I go to both Toronto and Vancouver pretty often and also calgary a few times! When i'm there i always like to rent a car and go explore instead of just sitting in my hotel room! Of course i know no place is perfect but whenever i'm in Vancouver or Toronto i can't help but notice there are no ghettos, mostly pristine, educated immigrants, much better enviroment to raise a family and most people seem more wholesome and happy! Of course not without it's flaws Canada truely is a great country and by far one of the best in world for quality of life
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Hmmm... regardless of how you see it, before the current situation in Afganistan I certainly wouldnt say its "normal" for canadian troops to die overseas in significant numbers, and "support our troops" is not a right wing agenda! You know, the whole point of support out troops is that its the troops, not the war that you support! I support the troops, and Im hardly Right wing!
Dbd33...what bollocks.