BristolUK

Did she tell them she had left the UK again?

I have read several times that you get the unfrozen rate when returning to live in the UK but that if the visit is temporary, so is the unfrozen rate.

It may well be that if you move back "permanently" then you get the unfrozen amount and then maybe it remains frozen at that new point if you "leave the UK" again (plans change?) and maybe permanent return is deemed to be six months.

But from 10 minutes googling all I can find are examples of people having it unfrozen for the period they are back in the UK and back to the frozen rate when they leave.

scot47

Poor advice on the pensions front was quite normal. I think it probably still is. There are certainly many sharks swimming in these waters.

RLR

Could you please tell hoe to get approved for class 2 contribution? I called to pension international case worker and to Inland Revenue, they both did not give me clear picture which class I should pay, left for me to make a choice.

HerMadge

I hope I'm in the right place.

We've newly arrived to Canada, but I am still employed by a British company.
My P85 is done, and processed, so I'm no longer paying PAYE, but they're still taking NI off my salary.
I'm Canadian having lived many years in the UK, and we won't be moving back.
Can I stop paying NI? If yes, how do I do this? Would it be better to pay a voluntary contribution, of a smaller amount as I'm paying Class 1?
Do I get a refund for the amounts I've paid this year, as in Canada I've learned that I'll be paying tax on the NI amount since it's not considered a tax.

Of course, I've tried calling HMRC but they've been too busy and hang up on me. With an 8hr time-difference there's not a great window of time catch them.

Thanks
HM

Siouxie

https://www.ft.com/content/80d4787c-...8-00144feabdc0

From what I have read (I am not a professional) I believe you would only be able to stop playing class 1 contributions if you became self employed but as long as you're employed by the UK company I believe you have no choice but to pay it. I don't believe you are able to get a refund, it's not a tax in the UK. I think your best option is probably to stop working for the UK company (either resign completely or become self employed and invoice them from Canada) and then pay voluntary / class 2 contributions until such time as you will benefit and receive a pension... but I'm sure others will be along to offer their advice.

HerMadge

No that's really good advice, I wasn't sure what to do. But I have another colleague moving to Canada, who will continue working for our company when she moves too. She's exactly in the same boat so this saves both of us some time. I'll confirm that with HMRC that we are not able to stop paying NI completely but perhaps downgrade my class contributions. Otherwise we'll go self-employed and proceed from there. I can't see it being a problem. Too bad on no refund though, but I wasn't holding my breath. Thank you!

Edo

You have to get in touch with the right departments to get information and apply for Class 2 registration. They are:

Future Pension Center:
Telephone number +44 191 218 3600
Email: [email protected]

Newcastle Pension Center (International Group):
Telephone number: +44 191 218 7777
Email: [email protected]

Good luck!