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Old Apr 3rd 2006, 2:05 pm
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I have heard that Canada is far more materialistic than the UK.
Having always been someone who refuses to follow the crowd , will this cause any problems.

My main interest is in business, I have never purchased flashy vehicles as I never wanted to standout, just blend in.

The vehicles I chose would look like an average representatives car, ford mondeo or volkswagon passat.

If I choose something based on requirements, being practical and in abundance such as a minivan & used it for business, would this have an adverse effect in your opinion? :scared:

My business is in agriculture, where a great deal of customers appear to drive huge! trucks with V8 engines. (I dont feel these are practical for me as I will do a great deal of travelling on the highway.
As for the local area's, the farm roads all appear in very good condition.

I would like to use a nice 4 wheel drive , but due to the expected 100K kilometers per year that I expect to do, it doesnt make financial sense.

should I focus on being practical or image for success in sales ?
Also what vehicles do sales representatives use in Canada?

looking forward to your comments

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Just to put this into context for people who might want to respond, you're moving to Ontario, right?
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Originally Posted by Prakash & Sandra
I have heard that Canada is far more materialistic than the UK.
Having always been someone who refuses to follow the crowd , will this cause any problems.

My main interest is in business, I have never purchased flashy vehicles as I never wanted to standout, just blend in.

The vehicles I chose would look like an average representatives car, ford mondeo or volkswagon passat.

If I choose something based on requirements, being practical and in abundance such as a minivan & used it for business, would this have an adverse effect in your opinion? :scared:

My business is in agriculture, where a great deal of customers appear to drive huge! trucks with V8 engines. (I dont feel these are practical for me as I will do a great deal of travelling on the highway.
As for the local area's, the farm roads all appear in very good condition.

I would like to use a nice 4 wheel drive , but due to the expected 100K kilometers per year that I expect to do, it doesnt make financial sense.

should I focus on being practical or image for success in sales ?
Also what vehicles do sales representatives use in Canada?

looking forward to your comments

P & S
A fortnight ago I tried to go to a local farm, not in the middle of nowhere but, fifty miles from downtown Toronto. I was in an ordinary car. I got stuck in the snow. A week ago I tried again in a gay 4x4 (a Honda Element), I got there but it was touch and go. I don't think it would be practical to try and visit farms on a regular basis in a car; you need something with ground clearance and probably four wheel drive.

There's also the question of image, one of my customers said to me, quite honestly "you know I'm a liberal, I drive an import truck". If you have an English accent you're already at risk of being considered effeminate and a pinko. Driving a car, especially God forbid, a European car, can only make matters worse. What you need is a King Ranch F150, ideally last years model with a couple of dents, so as not to look too rich. If the price of gas is a problem look at the diesel.
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Originally Posted by Judy in Calgary
Just to put this into context for people who might want to respond, you're moving to Ontario, right?
I was going to say ....... here in Calgary, nobody seems to care what you wear, what you drive, what you eat ..... you just do your own thing, and tolerance is the order of the day.

Hubby saw a guy walking through TD mall one day with a pyramid on his head. It didn't even raise an eye-brow! He asked a co-worker what that was about, and she said she supposed it was something to do with channelling energy .....

ps: having said that ..... Everybody laughs at Smart Cars!
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I was going to say ....... here in Calgary, nobody seems to care what you wear, what you drive, what you eat ..... you just do your own thing, and tolerance is the order of the day.

I doubt a farm rep's customers are going to a be a rainbow collage of diversity; Weebo Ludvig is the most famous Albertan farmer.

It seems to me that farmers in Ontario come in three flavours; Mennonites, rednecks and francophone rednecks, none of whom strike me as being tolerant of people unlike them.
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I doubt a farm rep's customers are going to a be a rainbow collage of diversity; Weebo Ludvig is the most famous Albertan farmer.

It seems to me that farmers in Ontario come in three flavours; Mennonites, rednecks and francophone rednecks, none of whom strike me as being tolerant of people unlike them.
No, I daresay you are right.
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Originally Posted by Morwenna
I was going to say ....... here in Calgary, nobody seems to care what you wear, what you drive, what you eat ..... you just do your own thing, and tolerance is the order of the day.

Hubby saw a guy walking through TD mall one day with a pyramid on his head. It didn't even raise an eye-brow! He asked a co-worker what that was about, and she said she supposed it was something to do with channelling energy .....

ps: having said that ..... Everybody laughs at Smart Cars!
and step about 15kms out side the city limits and Albertas rednecks will make Ontario's look like gay liberals in their level of tolerance
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Originally Posted by Judy in Calgary
Just to put this into context for people who might want to respond, you're moving to Ontario, right?
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and step about 15kms out side the city limits and Albertas rednecks will make Ontario's look like gay liberals in their level of tolerance
Only a gay liberal government lackey would express distance in kilometers. That'd cost a sale even in King City, never mind the boonies.
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A fortnight ago I tried to go to a local farm, not in the middle of nowhere but, fifty miles from downtown Toronto. I was in an ordinary car. I got stuck in the snow. A week ago I tried again in a gay 4x4 (a Honda Element), I got there but it was touch and go. I don't think it would be practical to try and visit farms on a regular basis in a car; you need something with ground clearance and probably four wheel drive.

There's also the question of image, one of my customers said to me, quite honestly "you know I'm a liberal, I drive an import truck". If you have an English accent you're already at risk of being considered effeminate and a pinko. Driving a car, especially God forbid, a European car, can only make matters worse. What you need is a King Ranch F150, ideally last years model with a couple of dents, so as not to look too rich. If the price of gas is a problem look at the diesel.
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and step about 15kms out side the city limits and Albertas rednecks will make Ontario's look like gay liberals in their level of tolerance
mea culpa .... I didn't read the original post in proper detail .... it was just the "keeping up with the Jones's" phrase that set me off, and my remarks were limited to Calgary city life, yes.
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Originally Posted by Prakash & Sandra
I have heard that Canada is far more materialistic than the UK.
Having always been someone who refuses to follow the crowd , will this cause any problems.

My main interest is in business, I have never purchased flashy vehicles as I never wanted to standout, just blend in.

The vehicles I chose would look like an average representatives car, ford mondeo or volkswagon passat.

If I choose something based on requirements, being practical and in abundance such as a minivan & used it for business, would this have an adverse effect in your opinion? :scared:

My business is in agriculture, where a great deal of customers appear to drive huge! trucks with V8 engines. (I dont feel these are practical for me as I will do a great deal of travelling on the highway.
As for the local area's, the farm roads all appear in very good condition.

I would like to use a nice 4 wheel drive , but due to the expected 100K kilometers per year that I expect to do, it doesnt make financial sense.

should I focus on being practical or image for success in sales ?
Also what vehicles do sales representatives use in Canada?

looking forward to your comments

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My impression is that the UK is now far more of a consumer and superficial society than Canada. Here you have the space to do your own thing and there isn't the same class system which defines the pecking order.
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Originally Posted by dbd33
I doubt a farm rep's customers are going to a be a rainbow collage of diversity; Weebo Ludvig is the most famous Albertan farmer.

It seems to me that farmers in Ontario come in three flavours; Mennonites, rednecks and francophone rednecks, none of whom strike me as being tolerant of people unlike them.
I understand that Mennonites are protective of their culture, but where do rednecks come from? I thought Canada recently celebrated a 100 years of history meaning most citizens are immigrants?
Is this not the case?
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Originally Posted by dbd33
I doubt a farm rep's customers are going to a be a rainbow collage of diversity; Weebo Ludvig is the most famous Albertan farmer.

It seems to me that farmers in Ontario come in three flavours; Mennonites, rednecks and francophone rednecks, none of whom strike me as being tolerant of people unlike them.

Not necessarily true at all! My family had several mennonites as friends while I was growing up in the KW area!
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Not necessarily true at all! My family had several mennonites as friends while I was growing up in the KW area!
Doesn't that support my contention ?
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