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ChloeNelson1993 Aug 19th 2017 4:15 am

Re: Diabetes and Canada
 

Originally Posted by Snowy560 (Post 12320407)
Please read the link as to who does and who does not require a medical for an IEC Work Permit:

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/tools/medic/exam/who.asp

There's a chance I will be working in one of those areas and because of the diabetes I thought I may as well get one before they ask anyways .

Snowy560 Aug 19th 2017 4:29 am

Re: Diabetes and Canada
 
Yes it gives you the option occupation wise without messing around afterwards and wasting time while you get the medical restriction lifted.

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Steve_ Aug 22nd 2017 5:08 pm

Re: Diabetes and Canada
 

Originally Posted by ChloeNelson1993 (Post 12311722)
I am a type 1 diabetic and feeling really confused about how I need to go about healthcare and costs etc. As I do not have a job currently lined up( but should hopefully find one once I am over,I will not have cover from an employer. How would I go about getting my prescriptions as I usually do ( insulin, testing strips etc). Do they also provide check ups as we usually do here in the UK?

Thanks in advance

You arrive, you go to the nearest registry office and sign up for AHCIP. This is basic healthcare coverage, there is some sort of waiting period, 3 months I think, so bring enough supplies. If your employer doesn't have a group plan you can sign up for non-group coverage with Alberta Blue Cross, this costs $190.50 per quarter for an individual (AC is on a family plan by the looks of it).

The non-group coverage gives you prescription drug coverage BUT it only covers certain drugs, you pay up to a maximum of $25 per prescription if it is covered. You can get multiple vials of insulin per order, you can get a prescription that covers you for a whole year but ABC only lets you buy so much at one time.

The snag is that a lot of stuff isn't covered. I take Novorapid, Toujeo and Fiasp and only Novorapid is covered by ABC.

Other diabetic supplies are covered up to a maximum of $600 a year and test strips cost about $75/100 so basically you're only covered for a few months. In the US you can get Chinese-made meters and strips which do actually work from Wal-Mart and they are way cheaper. So I just go down to the US and stock up.

And before you start complaining, it's better here than anywhere else in Canada as far as healthcare goes.

The real problem is getting a GP and if you get a GP getting referrals to a specialist as all non-critical stuff is being deferred because of the recession.

ChloeNelson1993 Aug 22nd 2017 6:05 pm

Re: Diabetes and Canada
 

Originally Posted by Steve_ (Post 12322471)
You arrive, you go to the nearest registry office and sign up for AHCIP. This is basic healthcare coverage, there is some sort of waiting period, 3 months I think, so bring enough supplies. If your employer doesn't have a group plan you can sign up for non-group coverage with Alberta Blue Cross, this costs $190.50 per quarter for an individual (AC is on a family plan by the looks of it).

The non-group coverage gives you prescription drug coverage BUT it only covers certain drugs, you pay up to a maximum of $25 per prescription if it is covered. You can get multiple vials of insulin per order, you can get a prescription that covers you for a whole year but ABC only lets you buy so much at one time.

The snag is that a lot of stuff isn't covered. I take Novorapid, Toujeo and Fiasp and only Novorapid is covered by ABC.

Other diabetic supplies are covered up to a maximum of $600 a year and test strips cost about $75/100 so basically you're only covered for a few months. In the US you can get Chinese-made meters and strips which do actually work from Wal-Mart and they are way cheaper. So I just go down to the US and stock up.

And before you start complaining, it's better here than anywhere else in Canada as far as healthcare goes.

The real problem is getting a GP and if you get a GP getting referrals to a specialist as all non-critical stuff is being deferred because of the recession.

Thank you so much that's actually really helpful.

Yeah I'm also using Novorapid and Levemir which are both made by the Novo company so hopefully will both be covered. Will definitely be worth looking into changing my meter too as I currently use Accu-Chek and have done for 17 years but i know here in the UK they are one of the most expensive for strips.

Also I would never complain, i was aware i was going to have to pay I just wanted some guidance on how to go about it and the cost i was looking at.

Thank you again

Almost Canadian Aug 23rd 2017 1:28 am

Re: Diabetes and Canada
 

Originally Posted by Steve_ (Post 12322471)
You arrive, you go to the nearest registry office and sign up for AHCIP. This is basic healthcare coverage, there is some sort of waiting period, 3 months I think, so bring enough supplies. If your employer doesn't have a group plan you can sign up for non-group coverage with Alberta Blue Cross, this costs $190.50 per quarter for an individual (AC is on a family plan by the looks of it).

There is no waiting period for new immigrants to Alberta but, as that doesn't cover prescriptions anyway, the need to bring supplies to cover the waiting period for whatever extended health insurance is obtained is good advice.

ChloeNelson1993 Sep 15th 2017 9:46 pm

Re: Diabetes and Canada
 
Hi all

Just a quick update.

I had my medical and although my hba1c was 70 the medmigration doctor said he wasn't concerned as it has come down from 103 2 years ago and had reduced from 78 in the last month only . He said they were more concerned about kidney problems and other serious problems as dialysis would be costly for them.

I sent my application off only 2 weeks ago and.... I got an email yesterday to say I have been approved 😁.

I have been very lucky in that it has actually only taking me 6 weeks ( and a fair few pounds) to get this as I know people have waited up to a year before even being considered, if they even do.

So it's all systems go and I'm going to have to do some deep investigating now as to what I need to do when with regards to healthcare etc,it's definitely not something I want to be messing around with( I also have organisational issues🙈).

Wish me luck 😊

Rete Sep 16th 2017 1:59 am

Re: Diabetes and Canada
 

Originally Posted by Almost Canadian (Post 12320359)
Before my medical, I asked my diabetic consultant to write a letter explaining how long I had been a diabetic and how well controlled my diabetes was. As a result, I was not asked to attend for further tests.

Is your reference to 78 a typo, or have they changed the system in the UK? IIRC, when I left the UK 11 years ago, an average of 6.0 was good. Over here, an average of 7.0 is good.

Down here in the States it is same digit decimal digit. I'm type two and with weight loss and proper eating after 19 years have A1C numbers in the 5.2 to 5.8 range over the last 18 months.

I've been on a course of Ramipril for the last 15 years. While it is for high blood pressure, it has been proven to protect the kidneys of diabetic patients. The dosage is minimal at 2.5mg twice a day.

Steve_ Sep 21st 2017 2:47 am

Re: Diabetes and Canada
 
Everywhere they use mmol/mol for A1C, but in the US they just don't put the unit of measurement on the blood test result because it causes confusion, as blood sugar is typically measured in mg/DL on a meter.

I find mg/DL much easier to understand especially when I'm hypo, so I always buy my meters in the US.

ann m Sep 21st 2017 3:16 pm

Re: Diabetes and Canada
 
For anyone interested, the Freestyle Libre mentioned upthread - the glucose monitoring sticky arm patch thingy - has finally been approved by Health Canada (and Manulife - which is where I'm getting my info from). I've asked my Manulife contact how to go about getting this through on our insurance plan, whether it needs prior approval or whether a simple doctors prescription is sufficient. I'll update when I know more.

Slbarron23 Jun 5th 2018 10:24 am

Re: Diabetes and Canada
 
Hi!
I am a type 1 diabetic currently looking at moving to Alberta!
Did you decide to make the move in the end?

I am completely surprised at the response that testing your blood 5 times a day is unnecessary! I check at least this many times ( eat 3x at least! Every time before I drive, every time when I feel a hypo, when I wake up and when I sleep!) It is the cost of test strips that worries me the most (insulin seems affordable and I am not on huge amounts!)

I lived in Australia for a year where the healthcare system was amazing. (Subsadised everything, free lancets and needles) For this move I took ALOT of test strips with me and almost had enough! I also had plenty left at home that I could have got sent out by family if I had needed too! The same with insulin - I took enough to last me a good 6/7 months and then had to purchase after that.

i think my test strip plan will have to be to get family to send them over as this seems like a much cheaper option than buying in Canada!

Steve_ Jun 5th 2018 11:48 am

Re: Diabetes and Canada
 

Originally Posted by Slbarron23 (Post 12511147)
i think my test strip plan will have to be to get family to send them over as this seems like a much cheaper option than buying in Canada!

As I mentioned above, by far the cheapest method is to go to the US and buy ReliOn strips from Wal-Mart. The only snag being the unit of measurement on ReliOn meters is mg/DL, although I did buy a "PremierBlu" meter recently and I think that does mmol/mol. They can't be shipped to Canada because they're not Health Canada approved, CBSA will seize them.

BristolUK Jun 5th 2018 12:27 pm

Re: Diabetes and Canada
 

Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 12314964)
A useful money saving tip.
Register for the Optimum (rewards) card with Shoppers Drug Mart. They have bonus Saturdays where you get 20 times the usual points.
The value of the points equals about 20% of the cost.

SDM also does a Seniors discount but you have to be 65.

Lawtons does a 55+ 20% discount every Wednesday. It's easier to fit in with every Weds than monthly on Saturday.

New advantage now is that A) Optimum points are now PC Optimum and more generous than they were and 2) You can redeem them at Loblaws/Superstore as well as SDM.

DandNHill Jun 5th 2018 4:18 pm

Re: Diabetes and Canada
 

Originally Posted by Slbarron23 (Post 12511147)
Hi!
I am a type 1 diabetic currently looking at moving to Alberta!
Did you decide to make the move in the end?

I am completely surprised at the response that testing your blood 5 times a day is unnecessary! I check at least this many times ( eat 3x at least! Every time before I drive, every time when I feel a hypo, when I wake up and when I sleep!) It is the cost of test strips that worries me the most (insulin seems affordable and I am not on huge amounts!)

I lived in Australia for a year where the healthcare system was amazing. (Subsadised everything, free lancets and needles) For this move I took ALOT of test strips with me and almost had enough! I also had plenty left at home that I could have got sent out by family if I had needed too! The same with insulin - I took enough to last me a good 6/7 months and then had to purchase after that.

i think my test strip plan will have to be to get family to send them over as this seems like a much cheaper option than buying in Canada!

If you get a good health plan most of it will be covered anyway.
Hubby is currently in a trial and won’t be paying anything for the next 9 months which is great.


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