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scottyxx Jul 13th 2012 1:12 am

Re: DEET in mosy spray
 
Urg I hate the Mozzies! Turns out I am very allergic! In Scotland we dont have them so I had never been bit, came to Canada, got bit on the arm and my arm puffed up so badly I had to go to the ER, I got given an Epi Pen, "Just In case". I have been using Shoppers Kid's branded spray, as I figured it must be good as people would complain if their kids were getting bit!

iaink Jul 13th 2012 1:36 am

Re: DEET in mosy spray
 

Originally Posted by pacepeter (Post 10169631)
Why do they still use it in Canada when it is banned in Europe and most other counties and has been prooved dangerous? anyone know

Cos it actually works to stop mozzies biting perhaps?


Is it banned in Europe then? What do they use instead?

iaink Jul 13th 2012 1:38 am

Re: DEET in mosy spray
 

Originally Posted by didikai (Post 10170058)
Avon Skin So Soft. You can get it in a spray. Works every time

For about 5 minutes, compared to 4 hours for DEET based products... google for the actually scientific clinical trial results, rather than "word of mouth", or find one of my old posts here with the data...

About the only thing Ive know that actually works under scientific examination, and isnt deet based is this stuff. It works for an hour or two, we mail ordered some for the kids to use when they were too small to expect to keep their hands out of their mouths.

FlyingDutchman6666 Jul 13th 2012 1:45 am

Re: DEET in mosy spray
 

Originally Posted by iaink (Post 10170174)
Cos it actually works to stop mozzies biting perhaps?
Is it banned in Europe then? What do they use instead?

I think the OP has been confusing DEET with DDT. He won't be the first, nor the last. Sounds like some marketing effort is in order here :D

jericho Jul 13th 2012 2:34 am

Re: DEET in mosy spray
 
There was a spot on Embarrassing Bodies on Ch4 this week where they studied why some people get bitten, and some people never get bitten. They've discovered the latter have two particular chemicals that mozzies dont like, and they're currently looking at ways to "bottle it".

I remember one particularly bad time in Edmonton last year at the dog park- me and my daughter had both been doused in Off! and it made no difference to the mozzies- they were literally swarming us- my daughter (4 at the time) was screaming and we had to run back to the car.

didikai Jul 13th 2012 2:35 am

Re: DEET in mosy spray
 

Originally Posted by iaink (Post 10170182)
For about 5 minutes, compared to 4 hours for DEET based products... google for the actually scientific clinical trial results, rather than "word of mouth", or find one of my old posts here with the data...

About the only thing Ive know that actually works under scientific examination, and isnt deet based is this stuff. It works for an hour or two, we mail ordered some for the kids to use when they were too small to expect to keep their hands out of their mouths.

Please yourself. I've been using Skin So Soft (Recomended off the record to me by a doctor) for years and it has never let me down.
And who does these 'scientific clinical trials? ....answers on a postcard...

iaink Jul 13th 2012 3:27 am

Re: DEET in mosy spray
 

Originally Posted by jericho (Post 10170267)
There was a spot on Embarrassing Bodies on Ch4 this week where they studied why some people get bitten, and some people never get bitten. They've discovered the latter have two particular chemicals that mozzies dont like, and they're currently looking at ways to "bottle it".

I remember one particularly bad time in Edmonton last year at the dog park- me and my daughter had both been doused in Off! and it made no difference to the mozzies- they were literally swarming us- my daughter (4 at the time) was screaming and we had to run back to the car.

DEET is not a repellent, if there are lots of mozzies, then they will still buzz around you.

What DEET does is prevent them actually biting you.

Over time Ive found I no longer get the big newcommer welts that I used to, I guess my immune system has adapted to the worst of it. I now go out during the day DEET free and dont seem to get bitten too bad... I get bitten some, but its not the big pain it used to be. Once the sun is going down and the hordes mass, then DEET is a good idea outside, outside the city anyway.

iaink Jul 13th 2012 3:28 am

Re: DEET in mosy spray
 

Originally Posted by didikai (Post 10170269)
Please yourself. I've been using Skin So Soft (Recomended off the record to me by a doctor) for years and it has never let me down.
And who does these 'scientific clinical trials? ....answers on a postcard...

The US FDA or EPA if I recall correctly... Its not a hard one to google for those that want some hard facts.

Doctors are no more immune to word of mouth than you or I Im afraid.

iaink Jul 13th 2012 3:37 am

Re: DEET in mosy spray
 
US department of agriculture is one publishing papers...
http://naldc.nal.usda.gov/download/3363/PDF

The army also has done trials.. this one compares deet and skin so soft.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2045813

Then there is this one from the American Academy of Family Physicians
http://www.homs.com/AAFD.pdf

Skin so soft isnt ineffective, its just less effective, and coverage doesnt last as long. Scientific as opposed to anecdotal evidence.

didikai Jul 13th 2012 3:46 am

Re: DEET in mosy spray
 

Originally Posted by iaink (Post 10170375)
The US FDA or EPA if I recall correctly... Its not a hard one to google for those that want some hard facts.

Doctors are no more immune to word of mouth than you or I Im afraid.

Oh yes, they are the organisations that told pregnant women...Morning sickness? Here you go...Thalidomide...is it safe? ....'course it is...

And what is this 'word of mouth?' I have been using Skin So Soft for about 20 years. It always works for me' and my family. If you don't want to use it, then don't.

Alan2005 Jul 13th 2012 4:04 am

Re: DEET in mosy spray
 

Originally Posted by iaink (Post 10170375)
The US FDA or EPA if I recall correctly... Its not a hard one to google for those that want some hard facts.

Doctors are no more immune to word of mouth than you or I Im afraid.

No good talking about science and facts with some people.

I wonder if didikai would buy lisa's tiger repellent rock?

el_richo Jul 13th 2012 4:12 am

Re: DEET in mosy spray
 

Originally Posted by didikai (Post 10170419)
I have been using Skin So Soft for about 20 years.

I"ll tell my wife about it. Does your husband notice a difference in your skin too? :fingerscrossed:

didikai Jul 13th 2012 4:37 am

Re: DEET in mosy spray
 

Originally Posted by el_richo (Post 10170454)
I"ll tell my wife about it. Does your husband notice a difference in your skin too? :fingerscrossed:

Actually I have noticed a great improvement. Thank you for asking. And while you're telling your wife, ask her to get some more Preparation H for your lips as you are still talking a load of shit.

Granma Nessie Jul 13th 2012 4:42 am

Re: DEET in mosy spray
 
I remember the time a few years ago when I was holidaying in Kerela, in southern India, and had used a very strong anti mozzy spray at night before going out to a newly opened posh bar. The barstools had been freshly varnished with dark mahogany legs and blue velvet seats. During the evening I had my legs coiled round the stool while I enjoyed a cocktail or two. Imagine my horror when I went to get up at the end of the evening and happened to glance down.....my legs were brown striped as they had stripped the varnish off the stool legs. No mozzy bites though but had to scrub hard to get the varnish off my pins.

el_richo Jul 13th 2012 4:58 am

Re: DEET in mosy spray
 

Originally Posted by didikai (Post 10170489)
Actually I have noticed a great improvement.

Good to know.



Originally Posted by didikai (Post 10170489)
Thank you for asking. And while you're telling your wife, ask her to get some more Preparation H for your lips as you are still talking a load of shit.

:confused:


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