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chinnybloke Jul 10th 2007 1:16 am

Cutting down trees in North West during Winter
 
Hi,

Does anyone know roughly what the above would pay?

We are talking about the North West for an oil company during the winter. Living in a remote camp. A neighbour is interested in doing it. He has been told by someone here that the rates are as follows (which he doubts very much):

- If you take your own 4x4 truck you get $125 per day cash for driving you and others to and from the camp, plus they pay all fuel cost

- 11 hour shifts of clearing trees at a rate of $700 per day

It is from late October to Early March.

Thanks,
CB

Sean Boxer Jul 10th 2007 1:27 am

Re: Cutting down trees in North West during Winter
 

Originally Posted by chinnybloke (Post 5035689)
Hi,

Does anyone know roughly what the above would pay?

We are talking about the North West for an oil company during the winter. Living in a remote camp. A neighbour is interested in doing it. He has been told by someone here that the rates are as follows (which he doubts very much):

- If you take your own 4x4 truck you get $125 per day cash for driving you and others to and from the camp, plus they pay all fuel cost

- 11 hour shifts of clearing trees at a rate of $700 per day

It is from late October to Early March.

Thanks,
CB

I had to chop through a fallen tree with a blunt axe at minus thirty once . . . I've never been the same.

Sounds like good money though, you could spend the rest of the year in Mexico warming up.

Have they got a website?

hot wasabi peas Jul 10th 2007 1:27 am

Re: Cutting down trees in North West during Winter
 
Do you mean in the Northwest Territories or in the north eastern part of NB?

If it's the NWT, yes, I could understand that rate of pay... cos, as a job, it would be hell! :ohmy: The NWT? In winter? :cry_smile:

hot wasabi peas Jul 10th 2007 1:29 am

Re: Cutting down trees in North West during Winter
 

Originally Posted by Sean Boxer (Post 5035727)
I had to chop through a fallen tree with a blunt axe at minus thirty once

Can you do it in the dark?

chinnybloke Jul 10th 2007 1:29 am

Re: Cutting down trees in North West during Winter
 

Originally Posted by hot wasabi peas (Post 5035729)
Do you mean in the Northwest Territories or in the north eastern part of NB?

If it's the NWT, yes, I could understand that rate of pay... cos, as a job, it would be hell! :ohmy: The NWT? In winter? :cry_smile:

NWT. He said they have 56" of ice on the river which a good job as they have to haul trees over it!

hot wasabi peas Jul 10th 2007 1:34 am

Re: Cutting down trees in North West during Winter
 

Originally Posted by chinnybloke (Post 5035735)
NWT. He said they have 56" of ice on the river which a good job as they have to haul trees over it!

Trees?! That's nothing... http://www.popularmechanics.com/outd...14.html?page=1

Notiaink...honest Jul 10th 2007 1:38 am

Re: Cutting down trees in North West during Winter
 
Not only would it be a really horrible job, its also one of the most dangerous/lethal ones going in Canada. Very high mortality rate, especially for the inexperienced.

Souvenir Jul 10th 2007 1:40 am

Re: Cutting down trees in North West during Winter
 

Originally Posted by Notiaink...honest (Post 5035785)
Very high mortality rate, especially for the inexperienced.

And the trees.

Biiiiink Jul 10th 2007 1:44 am

Re: Cutting down trees in North West during Winter
 
Did you see "Man's Work" series on Bravo UK with Ashley Hames?

I think you can watch a clip of the logging episode here - http://www.bravo.co.uk/manswork/# - then click "catch up" and choose episode 2.

Edit: there's absolutely no logging footage on that clip, don't bother!





Originally Posted by chinnybloke (Post 5035689)
Hi,

Does anyone know roughly what the above would pay?

We are talking about the North West for an oil company during the winter. Living in a remote camp. A neighbour is interested in doing it. He has been told by someone here that the rates are as follows (which he doubts very much):

- If you take your own 4x4 truck you get $125 per day cash for driving you and others to and from the camp, plus they pay all fuel cost

- 11 hour shifts of clearing trees at a rate of $700 per day

It is from late October to Early March.

Thanks,
CB


Sean Boxer Jul 10th 2007 1:51 am

Re: Cutting down trees in North West during Winter
 

Originally Posted by hot wasabi peas (Post 5035732)
Can you do it in the dark?

Well, my tears froze so I had limited vision, it was a bit like working in the dark.

Grah Jul 10th 2007 3:13 am

Re: Cutting down trees in North West during Winter
 
For those not in the industry - most logging is done during the winter, saves damaging the environment and building roads.

depending on the terrain of course will depend if you are hand felling or Machine felling.

So if you like being out camping and working hard with the same group of guys not a bad job really - take a friend.


Has to beat Crab fishing.

Notiaink...honest Jul 10th 2007 4:04 am

Re: Cutting down trees in North West during Winter
 

Originally Posted by Grah (Post 5036078)

Has to beat Crab fishing.

Depends which numbers you looks at.

Logging overall is dangerous, but logging in the winter in the NWT must be as perilous as it gets in that industry.


Rank Occupation Death rate per 100,000 (Total deaths)
1 Fishers and fishing workers 118.4 (48)
2 Logging workers 92.9 (80)
3 Aircraft pilots 66.9 (81)
4 Structural iron and steel workers 55.6 (35)
5 Refuse and recyclable material collectors 43.8 (32)
6 Farmers and ranchers 41.1 (341)
7 Electrical power line installers/repairers 32.7 (36)
8 Driver/sales workers and truck drivers 29.1 (993)
9 Miscelleneous agricultural workers 23.2 (176)
10 Construction laborers 22.7 (339)
http://money.cnn.com/2006/08/16/pf/2...jobs/index.htm

1 Logging workers 92.4 (85)
2 Aircraft pilots 92.4 (109)
3 Fishers and fishing workers 86.4 (38)
4 Structural iron and steel workers 47.0 (31)
5 Refuse and recyclable material collectors 43.2 (35)
6 Farmers and ranchers 37.5 (307)
7 Roofers 34.9 (94)
8 Electrical power line installers/repairers 30.0 (36)
9 Driver/sales workers and truck drivers 27.6 (905)
10 Taxi drivers and chauffeurs 24.2 (67)
http://money.cnn.com/2005/08/26/pf/jobs_jeopardy/



Timber cutters 117.8
Fishers 71.1
Pilots and navigators 69.8
Structural metal workers 58.2
Drivers-sales workers 37.9
Roofers 37
Electrical power installers 32.5
Farm occupations 28
Construction laborers 27.7
Truck drivers 25

Source: Bureau of Labor Statistics; survey of occupations with minimum 30 fatalities and 45,000 workers in 2002

dbd33 Jul 10th 2007 4:13 am

Re: Cutting down trees in North West during Winter
 

Originally Posted by Notiaink...honest (Post 5036301)
Depends which numbers you looks at.

Logging overall is dangerous, but logging in the winter in the NWT must be as perilous as it gets in that industry.


Rank Occupation Death rate per 100,000 (Total deaths)
1 Fishers and fishing workers 118.4 (48)
2 Logging workers 92.9 (80)
3 Aircraft pilots 66.9 (81)
4 Structural iron and steel workers 55.6 (35)
5 Refuse and recyclable material collectors 43.8 (32)
6 Farmers and ranchers 41.1 (341)
7 Electrical power line installers/repairers 32.7 (36)
8 Driver/sales workers and truck drivers 29.1 (993)
9 Miscelleneous agricultural workers 23.2 (176)
10 Construction laborers 22.7 (339)
http://money.cnn.com/2006/08/16/pf/2...jobs/index.htm

1 Logging workers 92.4 (85)
2 Aircraft pilots 92.4 (109)
3 Fishers and fishing workers 86.4 (38)
4 Structural iron and steel workers 47.0 (31)
5 Refuse and recyclable material collectors 43.2 (35)
6 Farmers and ranchers 37.5 (307)
7 Roofers 34.9 (94)
8 Electrical power line installers/repairers 30.0 (36)
9 Driver/sales workers and truck drivers 27.6 (905)
10 Taxi drivers and chauffeurs 24.2 (67)
http://money.cnn.com/2005/08/26/pf/jobs_jeopardy/



Timber cutters 117.8
Fishers 71.1
Pilots and navigators 69.8
Structural metal workers 58.2
Drivers-sales workers 37.9
Roofers 37
Electrical power installers 32.5
Farm occupations 28
Construction laborers 27.7
Truck drivers 25

Source: Bureau of Labor Statistics; survey of occupations with minimum 30 fatalities and 45,000 workers in 2002

"Farmers and ranchers"!

And they told me country living was a step away from all that urban danger.

Notiaink...honest Jul 10th 2007 4:27 am

Re: Cutting down trees in North West during Winter
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 5036361)
"Farmers and ranchers"!

And they told me country living was a step away from all that urban danger.

No H&S regs covered farming until very recently in canada, and farmers often work alone and with heavy machinery and loads. Tractor accidents were (and are) particulary dangerous (If they tip over) with no one aware of a problem till pop doesnt come home in time for supper from the back 40. Also a lot of young people work on farms with no training and no regard for there own mortality.

Plus, lets face it , farming is a vocation, not a job. These guys dont want to retire, they just keep working till they expire in the fields dont they?

Sean Boxer Jul 10th 2007 6:45 am

Re: Cutting down trees in North West during Winter
 

Originally Posted by Grah (Post 5036078)
So if you like being out camping and working hard with the same group of guys not a bad job really - take a friend.

I feel a Brokeback Mountain moment coming on.


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