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moosemeadows Feb 8th 2016 2:08 am

Curtains etc
 
A random question…we are budgeting for our impending move to BC and we're thinking about what we'll need for our house (which we'll be buying as soon after arrival as possible). In the UK I know exactly where I would go to buy new curtains….places like John Lewis who have a large choice of materials and do ready made as well as made to measure. Is there an equivalent in Canada (lower mainland area of BC) where people go for good quality furnishings? Is there a particular department store in Vancouver maybe?

I found Sears, which I've heard of but I have no idea what kind of quality Sears is known for.

Anyone?

JonboyE Feb 8th 2016 4:06 am

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Originally Posted by moosemeadows (Post 11861228)
A random question…we are budgeting for our impending move to BC and we're thinking about what we'll need for our house (which we'll be buying as soon after arrival as possible). In the UK I know exactly where I would go to buy new curtains….places like John Lewis who have a large choice of materials and do ready made as well as made to measure. Is there an equivalent in Canada (lower mainland area of BC) where people go for good quality furnishings? Is there a particular department store in Vancouver maybe?

I found Sears, which I've heard of but I have no idea what kind of quality Sears is known for.

Anyone?

Sears are generally mid-range quality. Another department store with somewhat higher quality is The Bay (Hudson's Bay Company). There are more smaller interior decorating stores that can make bespoke curtains (often called drapes) than you can shake a pointy stick at.

Often homes will come with custom cut blinds so you might want to hold off until you find somewhere before deciding what curtains you will need.

Collie Feb 8th 2016 4:41 am

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This is a bit off topic but may be helpful as you're budgeting!

No-one told us that in Canada it seems to be normal to leave behind washers, driers, fridges etc - even when these are stand-alone rather than built in. It can save buyers a few $$!

Pizzawheel Feb 8th 2016 5:07 am

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I bought all ours in Fabric Land, but thats Ontario- not sure if over in BC. The Bay and Home Depot would be other trans national options.

I think you get the curtains though- I needed to buy because our house had blinds everywhere.

BristolUK Feb 8th 2016 5:40 am

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Originally Posted by JonboyE (Post 11861334)
Often homes will come with custom cut blinds...

Or even curtains/drapes of cosmetic appearance rather than practical use that would likely not 'fit' windows at a new home for reasons of style and size.


Originally Posted by Collie (Post 11861363)
No-one told us that in Canada it seems to be normal to leave behind washers, driers, fridges etc - even when these are stand-alone rather than built in. It can save buyers a few $$!

We bought our house with cooker, dishwasher and fridge included.

An ice and chilled water dispensing fridge. The height of luxury. :nod:

Oink Feb 8th 2016 6:12 am

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Originally Posted by moosemeadows (Post 11861228)
A random question…we are budgeting for our impending move to BC and we're thinking about what we'll need for our house (which we'll be buying as soon after arrival as possible). In the UK I know exactly where I would go to buy new curtains….places like John Lewis who have a large choice of materials and do ready made as well as made to measure. Is there an equivalent in Canada (lower mainland area of BC) where people go for good quality furnishings? Is there a particular department store in Vancouver maybe?

I found Sears, which I've heard of but I have no idea what kind of quality Sears is known for.

Anyone?

Pull yourself together man.

Tangram Feb 8th 2016 6:16 am

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Curtains are metric over here ;)

jimf Feb 8th 2016 6:42 am

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Originally Posted by moosemeadows (Post 11861228)
A random question…we are budgeting for our impending move to BC and we're thinking about what we'll need for our house (which we'll be buying as soon after arrival as possible). In the UK I know exactly where I would go to buy new curtains….places like John Lewis who have a large choice of materials and do ready made as well as made to measure. Is there an equivalent in Canada (lower mainland area of BC) where people go for good quality furnishings? Is there a particular department store in Vancouver maybe?

I found Sears, which I've heard of but I have no idea what kind of quality Sears is known for.

Anyone?

If you go to Sears expecting anything like John Lewis you would be so disappointed. I can't really place a UK equivalent to Sears it's so basic. There are also ready made curtains at the DIY stores eg Rona, Home Depot but nothing like the range or quality you would get at John Lewis, M&S or Fenwick in the UK.

Curtains don't seem to be so common here and windows often just have blinds for which there seem to be a similar range of options for as in the UK.

I also looked at a number of independent "Drapery Specialists" and it was all pretty ugly stuff and not cheap. I remember one "expert" describing the fitting of a curtain "rod" which seemed to them to be of similar complexity to the manufacture of a Rolls Royce jet engine.

In the end we ordered curtains from John Lewis - fortunately they were eligible for overseas delivery as the weight of the larger ones would have been too much for a relative to post for us. I've paid for an extra bag to bring back curtains when returning from the UK. The curtain rods at Home Outfitters (part of The Bay) were just about ok.

If you are at all particular about curtains I would be very tempted to buy good ready-mades in the UK. Bringing the fabric might be another option.

scrubbedexpat091 Feb 8th 2016 9:14 am

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Curtains can be found all over of varying quality and styles, can't compare to the UK stores though, but Wal-Mart, Sears, Bay, Ikea, Home Depot, amazon dot ca, bed bath and beyond will all sell standard of the rack stock, and home depot possibly custom sizes.

Most city's also have more independent or small stores that might not be nationwide, which may sell higher quality items, but you'd have to ask around or google to find those specific to certain area stores.

Siouxie Feb 8th 2016 10:13 am

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Buy the material, get a seamstress to make them for you (or make them yourself, it's not difficult).

Simples.

:)

Snowy560 Feb 8th 2016 1:04 pm

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I think you should wait on these things. As Collie says things are rather different here. People are expected to leave curtains etc. behind and lots of other useful stuff that, in the UK you would normally have to budget for on a house move. Don't forget: there's always IKEA.

S

moosemeadows Feb 8th 2016 8:53 pm

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Thanks everyone - you've all been helpful! :-)

Shirtback Feb 9th 2016 10:11 am

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Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 11861602)
Curtains can be found all over of varying quality and styles, can't compare to the UK stores though, but Wal-Mart, Sears, Bay, Ikea, Home Depot, amazon dot ca, bed bath and beyond will all sell standard of the rack stock, and home depot possibly custom sizes.

Most city's also have more independent or small stores that might not be nationwide, which may sell higher quality items, but you'd have to ask around or google to find those specific to certain area stores.


Originally Posted by Siouxie (Post 11861657)
Buy the material, get a seamstress to make them for you (or make them yourself, it's not difficult).

Simples.

:)


Originally Posted by Snowy560 (Post 11861755)
I think you should wait on these things. As Collie says things are rather different here. People are expected to leave curtains etc. behind and lots of other useful stuff that, in the UK you would normally have to budget for on a house move. Don't forget: there's always IKEA.

S

If all you have to worry about/budget for is curtains, you should be laughing! ;).

My vote goes to a sewing machine.

My favourite & "best" curtains are a Habitat repurposed sheet/duvet combo passed down from a relative; & a pair of circa 1966 John Lewis bedspreads.

Otherwise IKEA & Walmart:

Souvy Feb 10th 2016 12:58 am

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Originally Posted by moosemeadows (Post 11861228)
A random question…we are budgeting for our impending move to BC and we're thinking about what we'll need for our house (which we'll be buying as soon after arrival as possible). In the UK I know exactly where I would go to buy new curtains….places like John Lewis who have a large choice of materials and do ready made as well as made to measure. Is there an equivalent in Canada (lower mainland area of BC) where people go for good quality furnishings? Is there a particular department store in Vancouver maybe?

I found Sears, which I've heard of but I have no idea what kind of quality Sears is known for.

Anyone?

I don't think curtains are really all that popular here. We have some as an accent in our bedroom but they are never drawn (we also have nets). We do have curtains across our patio doors, for privacy. Elsewhere it's blinds or shutters.

Don't ever draw curtains or close blinds at night when it's very cold outside, by the way. You'll regret it in the morning if you do.

Tangram Feb 10th 2016 1:22 am

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Originally Posted by Souvy (Post 11863236)
I don't think curtains are really all that popular here. We have some as an accent in our bedroom but they are never drawn (we also have nets). We do have curtains across our patio doors, for privacy. Elsewhere it's blinds or shutters.

Don't ever draw curtains or close blinds at night when it's very cold outside, by the way. You'll regret it in the morning if you do.

???

AlliF Feb 10th 2016 1:24 am

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Originally Posted by Souvy (Post 11863236)

Don't ever draw curtains or close blinds at night when it's very cold outside, by the way. You'll regret it in the morning if you do.

I'm curious, why do you say that?
I do every night and have never regretted it.
We don't have much choice anyway as we are in a bungalow with neighbours close by. I could wave at them from my bed lol

Souvy Feb 10th 2016 1:43 am

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Originally Posted by scotdownunder (Post 11863270)
I'm curious, why do you say that?
I do every night and have never regretted it.
We don't have much choice anyway as we are in a bungalow with neighbours close by. I could wave at them from my bed lol

It creates a barrier between the warmth of the house and the coldness of the window panes. Moisture in the air inside can freeze on the panes. You need pretty low temps for this (low minus teens and lower).

We have pretty good double glazing but know to not shut coverings completely when it's really cold. Let the warmth get to the windows.

It's the same with beer. I keep mine in the garage. Below -15, I bring it inside.

AlliF Feb 10th 2016 2:35 am

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Originally Posted by Souvy (Post 11863289)
It creates a barrier between the warmth of the house and the coldness of the window panes. Moisture in the air inside can freeze on the panes. You need pretty low temps for this (low minus teens and lower).

We have pretty good double glazing but know to not shut coverings completely when it's really cold. Let the warmth get to the windows.

It's the same with beer. I keep mine in the garage. Below -15, I bring it inside.

Ah ok.
I think because the blinds here are the wooden louvre style ones we have never had that problem even on the very cold nights because some air still gets through from the vents that are right next to the windows.

Souvy Feb 10th 2016 3:01 am

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Originally Posted by scotdownunder (Post 11863347)
Ah ok.
I think because the blinds here are the wooden louvre style ones we have never had that problem even on the very cold nights because some air still gets through from the vents that are right next to the windows.

We have those too. We angle the slats downwards on the inside, so the warm air vectors up.

Tangram Feb 10th 2016 3:13 am

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Must admit never had that problem at all with any curtains and blinds in the house and yes, they are closed throughtout winter evenings, must be the air vents in the floor by the windows.

Strange.

Souvy Feb 10th 2016 3:45 am

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Originally Posted by Tangram (Post 11863389)
Must admit never had that problem at all with any curtains and blinds in the house and yes, they are closed throughtout winter evenings, must be the air vents in the floor by the windows.

Strange.

I think you answered the question. We are all-electric. No vents, so no rising warm air.

AlliF Feb 10th 2016 3:55 am

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What I have learned is definitely not to leave things in the tumble dryer overnight if you want to wear it the next morning.
The vent to the outside makes it a very unpleasant experience!:blink:

IJ157 Feb 11th 2016 4:21 am

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I got my curtains from home depot.

dj322 Feb 12th 2016 8:15 am

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I remember when I first came to Canada from the UK and I wanted blackout curtains. I checked out Walmart, goold ole IKEA (both of which had products I wanted) but I found Bouclair to be a good bet, they are on the mainland. They offer mid range and some low budget options too, with a wide selection of products. I was also interested in some net curtains but that isn't a thing here, and I guess it's not a thing anymore in the UK either!

R I C H Feb 12th 2016 2:07 pm

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Maybe it's a regional thing, but I don't recall ever seeing curtains in a home here. Various types of blinds seem to be standard.

snoopdawg Feb 13th 2016 6:11 am

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Agreed, not many curtains where I am. Maybe as we get very hot in the summer and blinds just seem "right"- a bit like curtains would seem odd in a Spanish home.
Forget Sears- its just a shambolic mesh.
The Bay is much nicer- but I'm not sure if I've seen many curtains. It tends to look expensive but the trick is to wait for sales- which happen all the time and get huge savings.
Fabricland- Whats in Store
seems to be everywhere- huge selection of fabrics although I've never looked at curtain fabric, it also sells some ready mades.
If you get stuck try
Welcome to Marks & Spencer London
Started up last week- duties etc paid, looks a bit expensive because of the exchange rate. Sign up and wait for the email giving you 20% off.
I've tried it-got my stuff-fast as well- and it seems legit- links from the UK site

Sorry just seen fabric land already mentioned!

Collie Feb 13th 2016 7:26 am

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We too followed the herd and abandoned curtains - some California shutters downstairs and blackout/thermal insulating blinds on windows and skylights upstairs (made-to-measure and ordered from the internet - most impressed). Curtains certainly aren't common round here, and I don't miss them at all.

CDNReturner Feb 16th 2016 3:30 am

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Sears sell ready-mades but shut down their custom drapery operations in the last 18 months.

I don't think The Bay does custom draperies as I've looked in the past.

For custom (made-to-measure) you really have to find an interior decorator, an interior design shop, or find your own fabric (not many fabrics stores around anymore) and find a professional drapery sewist to make them.

Bouclair used to do custom but re-invented themselves and no longer sell fabrics so probably no longer do custom. They only contract to people like me anyway.

I think Restoration Hardware and Pottery Barn will do made-to-measure (not exactly `custom`) but they are way over-priced in my opinion and I don`t think the quality is great, especially the lining. I have had to alter them at times.

I believe places like Budget Blinds also do `custom` but again I think they often contract to people like me.

I`ve been in the business of making custom draperies for local interior decorators since I moved back to Canada but I`m in Guelph, Ontario.

If you decide you want custom at some point I may be able to recommend someone in your area as I belong to a small Canadian networking group for this industry.

Cathie

dj322 Feb 16th 2016 7:05 am

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Marks and Spencer mentioned on their website that they now have new dedicated websites for Australia, Canada, New Zealand, and USA!!!! Hooray. Maybe they might bring back a store or two after trialing this new website. The link is Welcome to Marks & Spencer London

Back to curtains, Homesense is a place where I picked up some blackout curtains too and at a good price.

Snowy560 Feb 16th 2016 7:09 am

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Just wondering: has anyone ordered from the M&S site to Canada?

They say all customs duties paid. Does that really hold true or will there be additional charges at delivery?

I know for example if you use this kind of "customs/import charges paid" services on ebay, they're a bit of a con and you can still end up having to pay on delivery.

S

dj322 Feb 16th 2016 7:14 am

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I ordered some vests from M&S a couple of years ago and I had to pay duty on delivery, I ordered through the regular website and it did't say anything about duty, so I wasn't surprised when I had to pay it.

But this is a new dedicated website just for Canada it seems, and it mentions that duty is covered etc. I am curious to give this a trial run to see what does happen if I place an order. I know this is a new website as I have been keeping an eye every few months and I have never seen this before. I have also been sending them emails asking them when they will come back to Canada. All of my emails have been ignored, but I understand they won't give any ole tom, dick n harry this information.

snoopdawg Feb 16th 2016 5:15 pm

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Originally Posted by Snowy560 (Post 11869522)
Just wondering: has anyone ordered from the M&S site to Canada?

They say all customs duties paid. Does that really hold true or will there be additional charges at delivery?

I know for example if you use this kind of "customs/import charges paid" services on ebay, they're a bit of a con and you can still end up having to pay on delivery.

S

See my post earlier in the thread!!!!!!
I have ordered as I said, I was dubious, I had heard about the website from Facebook, but there was no link on the uk site. I actually emailed the UK M&S, they emailed back saying I had to order on the UK site, so I went back the UK site only to find a link to the Canadian site had appeared overnight!
Anyway, I ordered, it arrived very fast,no shipping, no duties,tax. In an M&S bag, with tags attached.
My Amex appears untouched by crooks 2 weeks later. The importer was a woman's name oddly but otherwise all seems kosher ;)

Stinkypup Feb 16th 2016 5:37 pm

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Originally Posted by snoopdawg (Post 11869926)
See my post earlier in the thread!!!!!!
I have ordered as I said, I was dubious, I had heard about the website from Facebook, but there was no link on the uk site. I actually emailed the UK M&S, they emailed back saying I had to order on the UK site, so I went back the UK site only to find a link to the Canadian site had appeared overnight!
Anyway, I ordered, it arrived very fast,no shipping, no duties,tax. In an M&S bag, with tags attached.
My Amex appears untouched by crooks 2 weeks later. The importer was a woman's name oddly but otherwise all seems kosher ;)

You never told me you had ordered anything!!!:frown::frown::frown:

snoopdawg Feb 16th 2016 5:55 pm

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Originally Posted by Stinkypup (Post 11869941)
You never told me you had ordered anything!!!:frown::frown::frown:

I wore a new top all day Friday and you never said a thing:thumbdown:

Stinkypup Feb 16th 2016 6:01 pm

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Originally Posted by snoopdawg (Post 11869946)
I wore a new top all day Friday and you never said a thing:thumbdown:

Domestic bliss argy bargy- look what Expats has become! And I never noticed, even it being Valentines and all :o


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