Corruption in high places
 

The preliminary findings of the Gomery report are back.
"Justice Gomery delivered a scathing assessment of the program, saying its irregularities and mismanagement were even worse and more widespread than earlier imagined."
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl...tory/National/

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl.../BNStory/Front

Liberals are spinning it that Martin was not involved and has put a stop to this sort of thing and the civil service culture of fear that allowed it to go unchecked for so long. Sure he has :rolleyes:

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Martin's argument that he knew nothing isn't a very good one. Claiming to be the finance minister who didn't know where the money went hardly boosts one's credibility.

Still, the Liberals are the party of government in Canada. The right can't organise a piss up in a brewery and come with all manner of sinister religious baggage as well as being equally corrupt as the Liberals.

I expect Belinda Stronach will be PM in due course.

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Actually, its the auditor general who is supposed to police things, and she was the one who uncovered the problems, so that system worked.

Think about it, would you really trust a politician...any politician, to be in charge of the money! :scared:

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"Kickbacks" ?

Surely not, never ever :rolleyes: people aren't in that handshake game for the glittering prizes ? And here's me thinking they are all good stand up citizens. :eek:

Rich.

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The gomery report is now online, you can read all the 137 or so pages of it. Chretien and his cronies apparently are to be blamed.

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No wonder he retired. As a bonus, he gets to knacker Martin's political career.

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They make the Blair Govt look like saints :rolleyes:

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Corruption has always been a feature of Canadian political life, Mulroney and Airbus, Layton and the two salaries, that senator who had his pay forwarded to South America, it doesn't excite Canadians. I can live with this hand in the till stuff so long as the government doesn't do anything. We have more than enough laws already, thank you.

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And the odds are that I will vote Liberal. As will the other thousands of PRs currently/shortly being converted to citizens at high speed. We're natural Liberal voters (especially in Quebec).

According to my missus, in the 2-3 weeks before the last Quebec referendum some 40,000 Quebec-based PRs were citizenised, with citizenship judges being flown in from all over Canada to help out. I wonder why that might have been?

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I've only voted once in Canada, that was against Kyle Rae in a local election. I did that because he had offended me personally and because the polling station was in our apartment building; it was hard to avoid.

As an immigrant I don't think I should vote, it's not really my country and, in the end, it doesn't very much matter to me what the government does, if it's too horrible I'll just move on. I'm always happy to see the Liberals elected but I don't feel involved.

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Ah there you are. I hear you're from the K-W area...what a coincidence eh?

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Are you from round here also, whereabouts?

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I think you already know that dont you?

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:confused: Who is this?

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Ooh I so disagree, once a Citizen I think everyone should vote. Won't you run out of countries to move to after a while?

the question is - election before Christmas (which I don't think will be popular) or in the Spring?

I don't think I could vote Liberal - I definitely will never vote Conservative, but the NDP make me uneasy.

Clare
sitting on the political fence....

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Am sure you know

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Know what iaink :confused:

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Your worse nightmare! I've missed you!

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Hope its not a pointy fence:)

Full report not due for a month, and election a month after that, so some time in Jan I expect, which will bring a low turnout which wont hurt the liberals I expect.

Voting here is a bit like getting the choice of what form of execution you will have, but everyone eligiable should feel an obligation to vote. People in repressed countries would and do make huge sacrifices to get the opportunity, and we should never forget it or take it for granted!

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:mad: :confused: iaink, I think am going to heed your advise here and use the ignore feature, looks like I have got another worldweary here.

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You can run, but you cant hide from me!

This little innocent act doesnt become you at all!

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Whatever you are on, please stay away from me, and stop spoiling threads for people :rolleyes:

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Gee that's not what you said in the past!

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Games up mate.

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In the past where? What is the matter with you, worldweary put you up to this? It seems like you and him are just here to cause trouble and be condescending to people :mad:

Please go away, please

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Oh god I love this little innocent act - can I see a photo of you crying now?

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yes this thread has gone down the shitta.

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Rats...looks like he's disappeared!

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You mean lying to start a war is better than squandering some bucks on your buddies?

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Perhaps. I dont think anyone is suggesting Tony B.Liar went to war for personal financial gain, although frankly who knows what he and Bush were thinking.

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I must be having a senior moment. Can someone explain to me what has been going on in here during the last hour or so (ie the banning bit)?

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Borassa is/was MickJ ..who has has been banned more times then I care to remember ......he was "outed" now he's gone ..but he'll probably be back

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Oh, I see.

How was he outed? Surely coming from K-W isn't a banning offence? Hamilton, I could understand, but K-W?

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I can't say how he was spotted as it would give it away ....suffice to say ...KW didn't help ;)

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Ah. You could tell me but then you'd have to kill me. I get the picture. A nod's as good as a ;)

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But it doesn't make him a saint either

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When I saw the title of the thread, I thought it was going to be about David Blunkett :)