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MikeUK Jul 16th 2008 8:41 am

Re: The cons of Canada??!!
 

Originally Posted by stepnek (Post 6578302)
I used to think the same about snow until I got here. My wife couldn't understand it but she always had this knowing look when I used to talk excitedly about it. The extreme falls that we had here last winter killed off any last, lingering doubt of fun...?

I have 4 pairs of Ski's, a set of snow blades, CCM Ice skates, a snowboard (still in the wrapping)
some of the best winter gear money can buy
and a snow blower

and after the last winters snow dumps.... I f***ing hate the stuff.......

Mikey B Jul 16th 2008 10:40 am

Re: The cons of Canada??!!
 

Originally Posted by bazzz (Post 6578121)
Yeah, rain isn't so bad.

Rain is grey drab and depressing like the UK, at least with snow you can do something with it and enjoy it, enjoying a puddle just isnt the same!

dbd33 Jul 16th 2008 10:42 am

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Originally Posted by Mikey B (Post 6578750)
Rain is grey drab and depressing like the UK, at least with snow you can do something with it and enjoy it, enjoying a puddle just isnt the same!

My best ever moments involved puddles.

Mikey B Jul 16th 2008 10:58 am

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Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 6578755)
My best ever moments involved puddles.

You aay puddles to me I think of shallow idiots with the brain the size of a pea though.

Although the brava is going down nicely now so maybe that has something to do with it!! No Grolsch for me :(

bazzz Jul 16th 2008 12:06 pm

Re: The cons of Canada??!!
 

Originally Posted by Mikey B (Post 6578750)
Rain is grey drab and depressing like the UK, at least with snow you can do something with it and enjoy it, enjoying a puddle just isnt the same!

There's still snow, it just confines itself to the local mountains.

Mikey B Jul 16th 2008 12:59 pm

Re: The cons of Canada??!!
 

Originally Posted by bazzz (Post 6578959)
There's still snow, it just confines itself to the local mountains.

I live in Ontario - what are mountains again? ;)

Steve_P Jul 16th 2008 1:12 pm

Re: The cons of Canada??!!
 

Originally Posted by Mikey B (Post 6579078)
I live in Ontario - what are mountains again? ;)

As a visitor from the UK once described them.

"Big piles of rocks" in western Alberta and B.C.:p:D

Almost Canadian Jul 16th 2008 1:23 pm

Re: The cons of Canada??!!
 

Originally Posted by charlie1 (Post 6577554)
be sure your job offer includes medical benefits, as insulin etc here is very expensive, approx $1000 per month without medical cover

Where the hell are you buying it from at that price.

I just picked up 3 months supply last night. Total cost $900 (including test strips). I use 30 units of Lantus and approx 50 (depending on how many donouts from Timmies I want to eat:rofl:) of Novorapid a day. This should give you some form of comparison. Novarapid is relatively cheap, it's the Lantus that is expensive.

I am lucky in that my benefits pay my prescriptions in full. I cannot imagine how anyone could burn through $3000 worth of insulin in the same period:p

Dave+Jules Jul 16th 2008 3:04 pm

Re: The cons of Canada??!!
 
WOW! Sinead you sure kicked off a thread and a half here.

Glad to hear OH has landed some work and I think give him 3-6 months of local work and he will get something more in line with his skills.

Someone told me to try the Oromocto casualty if Fredericton Hospital was slow. It is only about 20 min drive and often zero queue. As for a doc have you registered on der list? Our GP was found by accident when I was trying to get a prescription in a walk in clinic. i.e I talked with her and told her the problem we had getting a GP and she told me to call her receptionist. I know she is moving into part time working so I doubt she will have any spare slots.

Tip Get to the walk in and use your accent :D Stress how healthy you all are and you are looking for peace of mind.

sinurt Jul 17th 2008 12:59 am

Re: The cons of Canada??!!
 

Originally Posted by Dave+Jules (Post 6579304)
WOW! Sinead you sure kicked off a thread and a half here.

Glad to hear OH has landed some work and I think give him 3-6 months of local work and he will get something more in line with his skills.

Someone told me to try the Oromocto casualty if Fredericton Hospital was slow. It is only about 20 min drive and often zero queue. As for a doc have you registered on der list? Our GP was found by accident when I was trying to get a prescription in a walk in clinic. i.e I talked with her and told her the problem we had getting a GP and she told me to call her receptionist. I know she is moving into part time working so I doubt she will have any spare slots.

Tip Get to the walk in and use your accent :D Stress how healthy you all are and you are looking for peace of mind.

LOL yip I sure did get a big thread going :rofl: Yeah after speaking to a few collegues about our experience at the Fredericton Hospital everyone was saying we should have tried Oromocto - we'll know for next time!!!
We have registered on the doc list but apparently there is around 2000 on that list!!! Fingers crossed we may have a lead on a doctor in Stanley so about a 20/30 min drive away but still better than nothing.

On a different note at least we have the BBQ on Saturday to look forward too :thumbsup:

iaink Jul 17th 2008 1:20 am

Re: The cons of Canada??!!
 

Originally Posted by Danny B (Post 6574437)
Are you serious?
Health and work are probably the biggest things that make or break new immigrants to Canada.

And both those particular issues are usually fixed by the passage of time. Come back in a year or two and see if those are still a problem;)

welshmountie Jul 17th 2008 10:53 pm

Re: The cons of Canada??!!
 

Originally Posted by sinurt (Post 6574350)
Well we have been here over 3 months already and although we really like the place and have made some great friends we have encountered some major issues already that it is making us question our decision about moving here.

First of all jobs - although I have a job (came on a TWP) and I love my job my husband has really struggled to find decent work. It's not like there are no jobs but it seems to be more "who you know" here rather than can u do the job. Anyway he finally got a job although it is very heavy lifting and pretty sh*t work so he is still looking out for something else :(.

Also having a major problem with finding doctors and the health care. There is a huge waiting list for doctors here and although there are walk in clinics for after hours they are unpredictable (one was shut last night at 8 and the other was full, despite there being 1 person in waiting room). We tried taking our 2 yr old to one last night as we really wanted a second opinion from a doctor and ended up going to the emergency room at the hospital, where we waited and waited and finally gave up as not one person had moved (one guy had been there 4 hrs already)!!!

So I was just wondering if these are common problems that people have encountered all across Canada or is it just here (Fredericton NB) ? :confused:

Oh no Sinurt. Don't say this. Up until now you've been so positive about your move and you and many others have been a source of optimism for my wife and I.. We are both considering Fredericton so seriously. I'm sure that your experiences are just unfortunate and don't reflect the general situation.

I do know that Canada is experiencing doctor shortages, etc, but I've also read that the awareness is there and things are in motion to improve the situation. At the end of the day long waiting times exist in the UK too although it is a post code lottery. One other thing to remember is that the UK is sliding fast economically due to mortgage issues and soaring prices of natural resources such as oil/gas. On top of this, we're a country with little natural resources and are only going to be more and more dependant on countries like Canada to supply us and at what cost as our resources dry up. The points being, a) Will our own health system have adequate funds in the future to increase numbers of doctors and reduce waiting times? b) Will the pot of doctors we do have want to jump ship leaving a shortage here and fly off to countries like Canada where the future is a lot brighter even if things aren't so hot there at the moment.

As for your husband's job....I think who you know applies to most countries and regions. It's a sad fact. I'm sure that once he gets a foot hold and proves himself, he'll be on the up. What about retraining for jobs that are perhaps more prevalent and rewarding that are in the Fredericton area?

I think you’ve got to look at the overall picture and weigh up the pros and cons of your emigration. You’ll probably find that no country is perfect, but I’m sure that you cannot do much better than making a life for yourself in Canada. However, at the end of the day it is down to overall personal happiness and from what I’ve read you seem to have that. Don’t let one or two things cloud your judgement…..easy for me to say I guess, but it is an unbiased statement.

Anyway, good luck and don't give in too quickly. Give it a good go before jumping out of the frying pan and back into the fire. We're really hoping you're still there by the time we make it over. :)

cornmatthew Jul 17th 2008 11:46 pm

Re: The cons of Canada??!!
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 6578014)
Employer's attitudes vary but, I think I would be tempting fate to be late because of a generally avoidable cause like weather.

Employers certainly vary. At my office, a snow day means most people work from home. :)

dbd33 Jul 17th 2008 11:49 pm

Re: The cons of Canada??!!
 

Originally Posted by cornmatthew (Post 6584615)
Employers certainly vary. At my office, a snow day means most people work from home. :)

Where the OH works, public sector so a very soft employer, they go by the schools. If the school buses are not running due to weather then not going in won't get you in trouble but you have to make up the time, if the schools are closed then no one is expected to go in. If the schools are open but the roads are closed confusion reigns.

sinurt Jul 17th 2008 11:55 pm

Re: The cons of Canada??!!
 
Thanks for your post welshmountie I am hoping we may have the doctor problem sorted, it means travelling a bit outside the city but hey at least it's a start. As you (and everyone else) said I think it will just take time for my husband to move onto a better job. As he is on an open spouse visa though he is not allowed to study but that's maybe something to consider once we have got PR.
Everything else about here is brilliant though, the weather has been superb and we have made so many great friends that we really do feel at home here so we won't be jumping ship just yet, and besides we need to get you and your wife along to one of the pub nights :thumbsup:


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