coming to Canada, and the future of our children
Oct 16th 2014, 9:43 pm
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Oct 16th 2014, 9:46 pm
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Re: coming to Canada, and the future of our children
@ JonboyE
Thanks for the answer. I am and was not aware what "a few years ago" some posters in this forum, would be immigrants and landed immigrants may have written here in this forum and what their motivation would have been.
I live in Canada now, however travel to the London UK quite frequently, and oddly, many of my friends in London are Canadian and work as teachers in various public schools. They all seem to agree that the education system in Canada is better than in the UK, or at least compared to London and their only motivation for coming to the UK is simply lack of jobs in Canada.
In that context I often wondered if the education system might be one motive for somebody coming to Canada. On the other side my Canadian friends are teaches in London, sometimes in the worst areas of the cities, and the education system in bigger cities is always a bit different than in rural communities or medium size towns.
That motivated me for starting this thread.
Thanks for the answer. I am and was not aware what "a few years ago" some posters in this forum, would be immigrants and landed immigrants may have written here in this forum and what their motivation would have been.
I live in Canada now, however travel to the London UK quite frequently, and oddly, many of my friends in London are Canadian and work as teachers in various public schools. They all seem to agree that the education system in Canada is better than in the UK, or at least compared to London and their only motivation for coming to the UK is simply lack of jobs in Canada.
In that context I often wondered if the education system might be one motive for somebody coming to Canada. On the other side my Canadian friends are teaches in London, sometimes in the worst areas of the cities, and the education system in bigger cities is always a bit different than in rural communities or medium size towns.
That motivated me for starting this thread.
There is a search engine called Google on the internet.
Basically a blank screen with a block in the middle similar to writing a post on here.
If you type in the key words of what you'd like to know in the space in the block it pulls up a wealth of information.
You will find comprehensive studies on international education systems by credible organisations.
Oct 16th 2014, 10:05 pm
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Re: coming to Canada, and the future of our children
The elite education is far better in the UK. The rest of the dross is about as drossy. But tbh, the main factor in academic achievement is usually based on familial socio-economic level. The one thing you may find liberating is that as a foreigner you'll be almost class neutral here.
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Oct 16th 2014, 10:11 pm
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Re: coming to Canada, and the future of our children
How odd then that the other usernames shared IP addresses, and other similarities including the same pertinent dates/location in Canada, registration email addresses etc. Including one called 'cabbage123' - which if it's really not you is one heck of a coincidence.
Just for the record though Novo, lookingtogo closed their own account, they weren't banned - if it's says 'account closed' that means they've chosen to leave the forum, if the karma button is missing, it means one of the mods have shown them the door.
Oct 16th 2014, 10:16 pm
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Re: coming to Canada, and the future of our children
Oh, well, I'll leave this stuff to Sherlock and your good self then.
Oct 17th 2014, 1:16 am
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Re: coming to Canada, and the future of our children
A few years ago we had a number of immigrants or potential immigrants who claimed they were moving "for the children" or "to give the children a better future." Other posters accused them of lying and that they were just using the children as an excuse.
Since then, "for the children" has been a (rather unfunny I think) running joke used by some to suggest a poster is not being as honest as they could be.
Since then, "for the children" has been a (rather unfunny I think) running joke used by some to suggest a poster is not being as honest as they could be.
I am, of course, something of a naif among a band of cynics.
Oct 17th 2014, 1:36 am
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Re: coming to Canada, and the future of our children
This is news to me. I did think the children were often an excuse but would have chosen self-deluding rather than lying to describe the attitude of those posters. Hence I've never caught the inference that "for the children" used in the running joke implied dishonesty, just a rose tinted view.
I am, of course, something of a naif among a band of cynics.
I am, of course, something of a naif among a band of cynics.
Oct 17th 2014, 2:00 am
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Re: coming to Canada, and the future of our children
This is news to me. I did think the children were often an excuse but would have chosen self-deluding rather than lying to describe the attitude of those posters. Hence I've never caught the inference that "for the children" used in the running joke implied dishonesty, just a rose tinted view.
I am, of course, something of a naif among a band of cynics.
I am, of course, something of a naif among a band of cynics.
Oct 17th 2014, 3:05 am
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Re: coming to Canada, and the future of our children
We moved partly for our kids. We didn't actually have any yet, these were just the ones we hoped to have one day. Reality was we couldn't admit, even to ourselves, that we were actually running away from things that followed us. The truth was too uncomfortable to admit back then.
I'd say it can definitely be a consideration, but not likely the primary reason, but that's just coming from my own perspective.
As for the quality of education, I don't think there's a huge amount in it academically, but the styles of delivery are different, and there are different options for that depending which area of which country you're in, and whether you're willing to pay for it. So there's that I suppose.
I'd say it can definitely be a consideration, but not likely the primary reason, but that's just coming from my own perspective.
As for the quality of education, I don't think there's a huge amount in it academically, but the styles of delivery are different, and there are different options for that depending which area of which country you're in, and whether you're willing to pay for it. So there's that I suppose.
Oct 17th 2014, 6:42 am
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Oct 17th 2014, 6:43 am
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Re: coming to Canada, and the future of our children
We moved partly for our kids. We didn't actually have any yet, these were just the ones we hoped to have one day. Reality was we couldn't admit, even to ourselves, that we were actually running away from things that followed us. The truth was too uncomfortable to admit back then.
I'd say it can definitely be a consideration, but not likely the primary reason, but that's just coming from my own perspective.
As for the quality of education, I don't think there's a huge amount in it academically, but the styles of delivery are different, and there are different options for that depending which area of which country you're in, and whether you're willing to pay for it. So there's that I suppose.
I'd say it can definitely be a consideration, but not likely the primary reason, but that's just coming from my own perspective.
As for the quality of education, I don't think there's a huge amount in it academically, but the styles of delivery are different, and there are different options for that depending which area of which country you're in, and whether you're willing to pay for it. So there's that I suppose.
Oct 17th 2014, 1:46 pm
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Re: coming to Canada, and the future of our children
This is news to me. I did think the children were often an excuse but would have chosen self-deluding rather than lying to describe the attitude of those posters. Hence I've never caught the inference that "for the children" used in the running joke implied dishonesty, just a rose tinted view.
I am, of course, something of a naif among a band of cynics.
I am, of course, something of a naif among a band of cynics.
Oct 17th 2014, 2:22 pm
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Re: coming to Canada, and the future of our children
We moved partly for our kids. We didn't actually have any yet, these were just the ones we hoped to have one day. Reality was we couldn't admit, even to ourselves, that we were actually running away from things that followed us. The truth was too uncomfortable to admit back then.
I'd say it can definitely be a consideration, but not likely the primary reason, but that's just coming from my own perspective.
As for the quality of education, I don't think there's a huge amount in it academically, but the styles of delivery are different, and there are different options for that depending which area of which country you're in, and whether you're willing to pay for it. So there's that I suppose.
I'd say it can definitely be a consideration, but not likely the primary reason, but that's just coming from my own perspective.
As for the quality of education, I don't think there's a huge amount in it academically, but the styles of delivery are different, and there are different options for that depending which area of which country you're in, and whether you're willing to pay for it. So there's that I suppose.
You can't run from alcoholism.
At least here you don't have to elbow your way to the bar here. Perhaps in that sense they are better educated in Canada.
Oct 17th 2014, 3:20 pm
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Re: coming to Canada, and the future of our children
Or anyone not moving to the Okanagan. If one moves there one can have a pontoon boat, you know, and a caravan, and a swimming pool, and a mock-mock-Tudor house, for the children. The only downside is that one's children will be burdened by the envy of all those children with less caring parents.
Oct 17th 2014, 3:33 pm
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Re: coming to Canada, and the future of our children
Or anyone not moving to the Okanagan. If one moves there one can have a pontoon boat, you know, and a caravan, and a swimming pool, and a mock-mock-Tudor house, for the children. The only downside is that one's children will be burdened by the envy of all those children with less caring parents.
