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[QUOTE=agr;7049778](BTW, I think you mean nuclear fusion - fission already works). My apology excited by the dialouge.
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The middle east have held the oil price ransom for some time, this month they will cut production and send the price back up again - - this takes time as it cannot be done overnight. However having the second biggest reserve in the world will mean that it will continue to process until no more money comes in and that won't be in my lifetime.

Solar panels are good, wind turbines a waste of time. We are even trying to harbour tidal power which could be amazing - however most of these only reduce the need and cannot support the need.

It seems that there is a East / West divide on here and a lot of stick aimed at Alberta. I think a lot wishing the Oil sands demise will still be wishing in 30 years time. However as usual time will tell.

JET:)

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I don't think you 'get' continental weather systems yet

Wind power across certain areas of the prairies is very viable

Just as solar power and Hydro electricity is viable in some areas and not others

Re: Coming to Alberta - please just be aware
 

It's because of all the beans the Stampeder's fans eat at the tailgate parties.

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Why do you think wind turbines are a waste of time?

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[QUOTE=JET747;7049853]Too true. I've seen figures of 200+ years reserves.

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Here are a couple of articles which might explain to those still in the UK and interested in Alberta why the coalition was so unpopular and why there is a strong conservative following.

http://www.calgaryherald.com/Technol...522/story.html

http://www.calgaryherald.com/Technol...780/story.html

http://www.calgaryherald.com/Busines...861/story.html

Re: Coming to Alberta - please just be aware
 

At least in Calgary, I'm not convinced that the dropping of house prices is yet directly related to the world economic disaster but more to the greed of new home builders coming back to bite them. Virtually every new development that you see has a shed load of unoccupied spec homes that the builders fell over themselves to build, so we have a simple case of over supply. Where I live there are about 20 homes for sale, 19 of which are unoccupied spec homes plus mine. :frown:

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The OPEC countries need to sell their oil, they're not so rich that they can leave it in the ground. They provide a stable supply, admitted not at a stable price but there's no price so low that they won't keep supplying the US. Obama likely wants to show some green credentials and an easy way to do that is to switch away from "dirty" oilsand oil. Since relations between the US and Canada are likely to worsen over the car industry bail out and over ideological differences between a neo-con government and a relatively liberal one, he's nothing to lose by offending Canada. I wouldn't bet tuppence on there being new oilsand projects over the next two years or so.

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I do have a little sympathy for those in Alberta, but everywhere is having problems too. Those people who moved to Alberta for the great wages and are now complaining because they're losing jobs should have saved some cash for a rainy day.

I have no sympathy for the Auto unions in Ontario who wanted excessive wages and whose members are now fighting for their jobs. None either for the Auto companies who agreed to them.

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The first piece disappears up it's own arse.

"The real solution is not taxation, but technology and international participation using new and cleaner energy sources. These will only come from wealth and western ingenuity."

"To stimulate growth, the coalition will never consider proven wealth and job creators like oilsands development. Oilsands are an environmental liability, not an economic asset."

All of which makes sense. Except that the author then argues that dirtier energy from Alberta is a good thing.

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Taken together the three articles say that oilsands are bad for the environment, no help in complying with the Kyoto protocol, a poor source of energy compared with electricity from Quebec both environmentally and financially but profitable for Alberta. They say they Harper champions oilsand development because it's profitable for Alberta. The articles make Harper look a small minded man and his party look more regional and less interested in Canada than the Bloc. I assume the Calgary Herald is a right wing paper so I won't assume it speaks for Albertans generally.

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Digging fu**ing big holes in ground the size of small moons, leaving the earth's surface looking like some bizarre toxic dead alien environment, and poisoning the rivers is "ingenuity".

Oh, OK then.

Assume that it does.

R.

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It's great to see people being sucked into believing all this Climate Change stuff. I don't disagree that it's not good for the atmosphere - but like very prominent scientists believe that not enough evidence is there - - all this may be cyclic. Records only go back so far.

Science tried to disprove the Turin Shroud as a fake using carbon dating - -now they have found a flaw with that and say it is older than it is.

Greenland used to be green not covered in ice at the turn of the last centuary--so where did all that ice come from ? And I remember in the 70's people used to say that an ice age was on it's way.

Alberta will still be processeing oil long after we are all dead and gone--FACT.

JET (great debate):)

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These 'prominent scientists' - is the number of them increasing or decreasing? And collectively, do they carry more credibility than the IPCC?

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I don't believe any Govt. body on this matter at the moment. They raise the taxes and put tight control over emissions - that it will end up wrecking our already diminished manufacturing base.

Lets go with the argument that Climate change is happening as bad as they say due to greenhouse gases - Britain could stop polluting for a year and that would make up 1% of the total. It would not make a difference and yet we will pay more taxes --that is why I would rather look at the independent scientists as well and make my own mind up.

One Japanese scientist who was all for global cuts is now gone the other way. He has studied this matter for years and believes it's part of the earths cycle. If I find the article I will post it.

Being an Engineer maybe you could develop a new efficient way of extraction and processing ?

JET:)