Citizenship Application - incomplete!!
 

I have just received my citizenship application back saying it is incomplete.

1) says that Language evidence is not acceptable. I supplied my high school (Certificate Of Secondary Education) where it clearly states i passed English.

Anyone have a clue why would they reject this? The only thing i can see is that it says a single course does not count - do they want to see other courses i passed as well maybe??

2) says photocopies of school records for myself or dependent children are missing or illegible.

I completed section G. I showed the names of both my children and the school of one and the dates applicable. My other child i showed the name info and age but he is only 2 so i left off the school as it is not applicable.

Should i have left the second (non school age child) off the application and/or provided any other info as well?

Any help or advice would be great?

Many thanks

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I don't remember having to send any of that stuff with mine and that was only last year. Has it changed ?

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fairly recently I believe, yes

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As I understand it you now have to either:
1. Have degree level certificate where the whole degree was taught in English; or
2. Pass the requisite English test (as specified on the CIC website) and provide the proof of this (certificate I assume).

The CSE English exam does not meet these requirements which is probaby why it was rejected.

I think the rules around proof of language ability have been made more stingent over the last year or so.

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On the CIC web page it says:


3. Proof of completion of a secondary or post-secondary education program in French or English, in Canada or abroad, such as:

A transcript, diploma or certificate from a secondary school; or
A transcript, diploma, certificate or degree from a post-secondary school

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After visiting local cic offices even they are having problems with what is acceptable..for Citizenship..visit #1 ...both of us need to pass IELTS general LS.
visit #2... only OH needs LS and my o level results and
letter from high school giving dates graduated (scotland).was proof enough.
Got even stranger when i mentioned less than a yr and i wouldnt need them?/
the two ladies had no idea that after 55yrs you didnt need language requirements.
jimmy:rofl:

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jeeze, so glad i got mine already :blink:

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Yup, at 55 there is no test either. Or has that changed now?

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Ditto

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i got the same reply AD47... i had sent my college diploma thinking that should be OK with suffient knowledge of english in there... maybe not... I will try sending my AAT qualification.... It was all good then when putting our pr application in(LOL)...
Also don't quite know whether we have complete the whole aplication from and complete the payment schedule again?? they are not very clear on this ...

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Isn't a college diploma post secondary ? Am surprised that won't do. We have to appear tomorrw at Scarborough immigration so am hoping this is the interview. We applied a year ago so did not have to prove any English language skill.

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Exactly as per magnumpi reply above i supplied my certificate that was my secondary school certificate stating in over 20 years ago i had passed English at school in England. How unbelievable can it be they reject this as not enough proof?? I am stumped as i dont know what to do.

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Good luck!

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So, to clarify, are trade certificates (NVQs etc) and english GCSEs not accepted for these purposes?

I also had an email from my prospective employer tonight advising me to consider booking an english language test now if I want to apply for permanent residency as quickly as possible as there is a 3 month backlog for the tests

Is this normal for someone on a TWP to have to undertake such a test as part of the PR process? Again, are trade certificates (NVQs) and/or english qualifications such as GCSEs not accepted for this process?

Thanks in advance

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i want to know is surely they will have all your information from when they issued your visa in the first place..so why would you have to send it all again?

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Hi

My husband took the IETLS before we left England as we thought he needed it for PR.

We have since applied for PR via AINP (Alberta Immigration Nomination Stream) and under the Employer Stream where his employer can vouch for his English so he didn't need to take the test. Which way are you intending to take to get to PR? :)

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Most PR routes require an IELTS exam, but you can check exactly what is required for your intended route on the CIC website.

Not necessarily - no requirement for English testing for spousal sponsorship for instance. Not all visa routes require it.

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Thanks for the info

I initially plan to go to Canada with a TWP, but hope to convert this to PR asap

As I plan to go to Alberta I had looked at AINP as I think this would be my best (quickest) bet - so are all employers eligible for the "stream"?

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Ok, Ive had a look on the CIC and found this:

Clicky

It suggests that "semi skilled" workers need to sit an english test as part of the application process but I assume that "skilled" do not (it doesnt say):

Effective July 1, 2012, most Provincial Nominee Program (PNP) applicants to semi- or low-skilled professions will need language testing. This test will show whether your language proficiency meets a minimum standard in each of these four categories: listening, speaking, reading and writing.

This does not apply if you are a temporary foreign worker in a NOC C & D occupation, and who:

entered Canada on or before July 1, 2012, and
has been nominated in a PNP employer-driven stream by July 1, 2013.

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i have an issue..if i remember rightly my degree stuff and qualifications were never returned to me when i got my PR..what about a written acknowledgment for the university to say i have a degree?

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Further to my original message, is anyone aware exactly what they mean by

a) for the language evidence that one course does not count - would proof i passed maths, science etc at the same school count?

b) says photocopies of school records for myself or dependent children are missing or illegible - I completed section G. I showed the names of both my children and the school of one who is 5 and the dates applicable. My other child i showed the name info and age but he is only 2 so i left off the school as it is not applicable. Should i have left the second (non school age child) off the application and/or provided any other info as well?

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What, they require a language test for citizenship as well now?! That seems unreasonable, since surely if you've been able to live and work in Canada for 3 years the language thing is pretty irrelevant? For example you may be able to speak and understand english, but not read/write well, which is enough for some types of work. What about landed immigrants from the 60s/70s who have PR but not citizenship but don't have all the english skills? Wow...

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Surely if you're eligible to apply for citizenship and the kid's only 2, he's a citizen already?

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Only if the child was born in Canada. It is technically possible to give birth elsewhere and still meet the residency reqs.

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Yes, of course it's technically possible. I await enlightenment from the OP.

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Did you get to the bottom of this yet?

I have just put all my docs together and off to get some lovely pics of me and the boy done. I included all my edumication docs that I have done much of in the English. :@) noted that I did pass English & English Lit so if my calculations are correct that is erm 1+1=2 yup two English things I done.

Lets see what happens next, off to polish my hair now for pics.

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Both my kids are born in Canada! my wife is Canadian too!! Ive also been in Canada since 2004 as a PR since early 2006!! I am still not totally sure but will attached other school certs from other classes and pass docs from college in England (they will probably return then because too much proof!!!) I think the main issue then is about the children and why they rejected that section.

Does anyone know what should be on the section about children and what should be shown for non-school age children? Also should i show any registration for the older child at school?

Wonder when the language issue came in to effect as i sent the application in December and it was received in Dec as i had proof it was with them as was a courier postage used???

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The point NOvo was trying to make is that your children ARE AlREADY citizens if they were born in Canada
You don't need to apply for citizenship for them
Surely they have a Canadian birth certificate !

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I think you may need to re apply, just for yourself as your kids are Canadian by birth, and maybe you have confused the CIC into thinking you have some other kids who are not Canadian. Just a possibility ehh!

And maybe send anything that shows you passed English or took an exam in anything English related. Engineering degree or electrical red seal ect.

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Trying? :)

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Well obviously you didn't succeed ;)

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It's perfectly reasonable... but a bit dumb in this case as the original poster is clearly a native english speaker and was educated in english too.

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I am not responsible for the audience's IQ.

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Seems like it doesn't matter:

"In addition, provide photocopies of official school records for any dependent children in Canada or abroad even if you are not applying for Canadian citizenship on their behalf."

That's straight from "Step 1. Gather documents" of the Citizenship application package.

I have a Canadian 3 year old, and am now wondering if I should be getting her official Day Care records for my application...? I don't really understand the reasons behind this requirement, but obviously CIC is very strict about it...

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Yup, i sent mine and my sons in, and they both contained the same school record in each application.

Seems that common sense in the CIC is an additional requirement, not normally recommended at the recruitment level.

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Any updates from rejections with submitting GCSEs for citizenship applications? I submitted all mine and the OHs GCSEs 11 courses in total, including grade B, B for English language and lit. On my CIC profile it says application in process, which according to the CIC website is the stage that after they check to ensure documents are correct, and it has been sent to the local office.

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Did you application get to the stage in process?

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This is ridiculous! i mean ok i understand the CIC making it more stringent for non English speaking applicants, but people from England with a CSE education certificate? Somewhere where English is their native tongue and have passed an exam in the country of its origin! what more proof do they want! LOL strange!

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Judging by wot I reads in I nternet their are plnty of peeps who cant right for toffee.