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London7 Sep 15th 2005 3:45 pm

citizenship
 
hi
i am currently a PR, i have heard so many different stories in regards to the length of time it takes to get it, from 6 months to 3 years!!!!! :eek:
what are peoples experiences???

Souvenir Sep 16th 2005 12:06 am

Re: citizenship
 

Originally Posted by London7
hi
i am currently a PR, i have heard so many different stories in regards to the length of time it takes to get it, from 6 months to 3 years!!!!! :eek:
what are peoples experiences???

You are eligible to apply if you have spent 3 years (1095 days) in Canada during the four years immediately preceding your application. Days spent residing here before becoming a PR can also be counted. It's all on the website.

That's probably not the question though.

I applied in mid-October of last year. I received the acknowledgement and study book in mid-March. That was about two months late; they had a backlog. The acknowledgement indicated that I could expect to wait 12-15 months from the date on the letter. A notice to appear for a test was sent to me on September 8th. The test is on the 22nd September. The paperwork says that if I pass the test, the citizenship ceremony will take place immediately. If all goes well, by this time next week I'll be a card-carrying Canuckistanian and my Mrs will finally get off my back.

Two things. Firstly, I don't think it is standard practice to have the ceremony the same day as the test (go look at the citizenship test discussion I started yesterday). I can only guess that where I am there will be so few people taking the test, they'll be able to process us all on the spot.

Secondly, there is an inconsistency between the March letter and eclient. The general rules say that you can expect to wait 12-15 months from receipt of the acknowledgement. Although the letter I got was dated in March, eclient has it down as being sent in October, ie when I sent in my application. I think the clock started ticking then, not in March.

Either way, it's been quicker than I expected.

Cowtown Sep 16th 2005 7:34 am

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Originally Posted by Souvenir
Either way, it's been quicker than I expected.

I applied in spring this year and got the study guide, etc about two months later - it does seem to be going more quickly than I expect too :)

Souvenir Sep 16th 2005 8:28 am

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Originally Posted by Cowtown
I applied in spring this year and got the study guide, etc about two months later - it does seem to be going more quickly than I expect too :)

I bet you weren't surprised at the speed with which they cashed your application fee :)

I'm still pi**ed at that question about the North. Once I've got my card (ie they won't deport me) I'm going to exercise one of my fundamental rights as a Canadian.

I shall complain. I'll say sorry, obviously, but I'll complain.

Cowtown Sep 16th 2005 8:46 am

Re: citizenship
 

Originally Posted by Souvenir
I bet you weren't surprised at the speed with which they cashed your application fee :)

I did the online payment bit, then sat on the application for three months ... I've nobody to blame but myself :o

Souvenir Sep 16th 2005 8:53 am

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Originally Posted by Cowtown
I've nobody to blame but myself :o

Just bide your time. It'll not be long before you have the power to start DEMANDING. But in a nice way of course, and saying sorry after. :rolleyes:

ClareBC Sep 19th 2005 5:56 pm

Re: citizenship
 

Originally Posted by Souvenir
...

I applied in mid-October of last year. I received the acknowledgement and study book in mid-March. That was about two months late; they had a backlog. The acknowledgement indicated that I could expect to wait 12-15 months from the date on the letter. A notice to appear for a test was sent to me on September 8th. The test is on the 22nd September. The paperwork says that if I pass the test, the citizenship ceremony will take place immediately. If all goes well, by this time next week I'll be a card-carrying Canuckistanian and my Mrs will finally get off my back.
...


We applied last October, since then 2 families who applied after us (one family applied in March!) have been for their tests, it is making me paranoid as we haven't heard a thing! sigh :(

Clare

sysclp Sep 20th 2005 1:37 am

Re: citizenship
 
How long it takes to get to the test and oath depend a lot on where you live. It takes longer in places like Toronto where there are lots of people applying. I am on the east side of Toronto, so it took about 13 months total. I applied on August 1 2004, got the book in January 2005, took the test on June 17 (about 10 days notice before hand), and finally got the oath notice in August for the 26th. When I took the test, they said it could be as much as 4 months before getting your score or oath notice. I never got a score, although I know I got all the questions correct, just the notice to show up for the oath ceremony.

You can check your status on e-client if you are wondering what is going on. It won't change for long periods of time but at least you will know when the letter is sent before you get it in the mail.
http://services3.cic.gc.ca/ecas/ECAS.jsp
You will need your PC card number or landing papers number to use this.

Duncan_BC Sep 20th 2005 5:03 am

Re: citizenship
 
I think that the citizenship test is a travesty and I am sorry that anyone has to pass it. I have written a letter to the Prime Minister asking that it be abolished.

sysclp Sep 20th 2005 6:48 am

Re: citizenship
 

Originally Posted by Duncan_BC
I think that the citizenship test is a travesty and I am sorry that anyone has to pass it. I have written a letter to the Prime Minister asking that it be abolished.

Surprisingly there are people who fail it. The only real purpose it serves is to get people to read the booklet about Canada they provide.

Souvenir Sep 20th 2005 6:59 am

Re: citizenship
 

Originally Posted by sysclp
Surprisingly there are people who fail it. The only real purpose it serves is to get people to read the booklet about Canada they provide.

I can only see myself failing if I have a memory block and can't remember the name of my local MP. The other questions are almost unfailable if you've read the book.

There is a second real purpose to the test. It creates jobs for civil servants.

Did you know that the Portage complex in Hull contains the largest number of civil servants anywhere in the world, after the Pentagon?

I've done the Ottawa River boat trip. It shows, doesn't it?

andy_sheila Sep 20th 2005 7:28 am

Re: citizenship
 

Originally Posted by Souvenir
I can only see myself failing if I have a memory block and can't remember the name of my local MP. The other questions are almost unfailable if you've read the book.

There is a second real purpose to the test. It creates jobs for civil servants.

Did you know that the Portage complex in Hull contains the largest number of civil servants anywhere in the world, after the Pentagon?

I've done the Ottawa River boat trip. It shows, doesn't it?

Serious question Souv ( can i call you Souv yet? after all we have known of each other for 4 months now :D )
What are the advantages/disadvantages of becoming a citizen? other than being able to vote

sysclp Sep 20th 2005 7:30 am

Re: citizenship
 

Originally Posted by Souvenir
I can only see myself failing if I have a memory block and can't remember the name of my local MP. The other questions are almost unfailable if you've read the book.

I've done the Ottawa River boat trip. It shows, doesn't it?

Sadly if it weren't for the test, most would never read the book. So many of the non-English first language people who took the test when I did were VERY nervous and still studying before the test.

I have never been to Ottawa yet, maybe someday.

Souvenir Sep 20th 2005 7:44 am

Re: citizenship
 

Originally Posted by andy_sheila
Serious question Souv ( can i call you Souv yet? after all we have known of each other for 4 months now :D )
What are the advantages/disadvantages of becoming a citizen? other than being able to vote

Souv? We are getting chummy :rolleyes:

Interestingly, souv is an anagram of vous, which is the formal version of you (as opposed to the informal tu).

Stops briefly to consider getting a life.

As far as I am aware, there are no advantages/disadvantages to taking citizenship, other than perhaps an easier ride at immigration next time I leave the country and come back again (which is in a few days' time). That and voting, which I certainly will.

I'm doing it simply because I want to. And because my wife wants it very much indeed. Cut her veins and you will see maple syrup, mixed with poutine.

andy_sheila Sep 20th 2005 7:50 am

Re: citizenship
 

Originally Posted by Souvenir
Souv? We are getting chummy :rolleyes:

Interestingly, souv is an anagram of vous, which is the formal version of you (as opposed to the informal tu).

Stops briefly to consider getting a life.

As far as I am aware, there are no advantages/disadvantages to taking citizenship, other than perhaps an easier ride at immigration next time I leave the country and come back again (which is in a few days' time). That and voting, which I certainly will.

I'm doing it simply because I want to. And because my wife wants it very much indeed. Cut her veins and you will see maple syrup, mixed with poutine.

LOL, Thanks old chum, i fully intend doing it as well in about 3 yrs time and like you, just because i want to. I have no idea what difference it will make though. maybe it will make me clever like vous tu


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