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clairemarie70 Nov 20th 2007 8:13 am

child benefit
 
just wondering if people are still getting there child benefit paid into a uk bank account even though they are living in Canada..or have people just told these people they have immigrated and lost the money???

Danny B Nov 20th 2007 8:15 am

Re: child benefit
 

Originally Posted by clairemarie70 (Post 5579963)
just wondering if people are still getting there child benefit paid into a uk bank account even though they are living in Canada..or have people just told these people they have immigrated and lost the money???

No comment.

bazzz Nov 20th 2007 8:17 am

Re: child benefit
 
You can get UK child benefit even without having children in the UK? Where do I sign up?

Steve_P Nov 20th 2007 8:19 am

Re: child benefit
 

Originally Posted by clairemarie70 (Post 5579963)
just wondering if people are still getting there child benefit paid into a uk bank account even though they are living in Canada..or have people just told these people they have immigrated and lost the money???

You're joking? Right?:huh::ohmy:

Can you say fraud? :mad:

I knew you could.

Tangram Nov 20th 2007 8:54 am

Re: child benefit
 

Originally Posted by clairemarie70 (Post 5579963)
just wondering if people are still getting there child benefit paid into a uk bank account even though they are living in Canada..or have people just told these people they have immigrated and lost the money???

We informed them when we left.

Biiiiink Nov 20th 2007 9:15 am

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Tell them before you leave the UK - it took them about a year and a half to finally deal with my repeated requests from Canada for payment to stop. If you look in the archive, others have found the same. It seems to be easier to get it done by phone from the UK - letters and emails from Canada were routinely ignored!

As we've seen today, they're not the sharpest sticks in the bunch - sort it whilst it's still a cheap local call.

wizzard Nov 20th 2007 10:36 am

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Of course you may not want to be involved in UK Child Benefit at all...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7103566.stm

steve666 Nov 20th 2007 10:38 am

Re: child benefit
 

Originally Posted by clairemarie70 (Post 5579963)
just wondering if people are still getting there child benefit paid into a uk bank account even though they are living in Canada..or have people just told these people they have immigrated and lost the money???

No comment.

Tracie107 Nov 21st 2007 3:50 am

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Bazz,

Yes you can get Child Benefit and Tax Credits paid by our thieving government. If you reside within the EEC and your husband works in England so long as he pays tax, like most of the immigrants now in the UK then you are entitled to these things and probably more. It is well documented that most people mainly Eastern Europeans are now able to send their children to private schools as they are receiving hundreds £'s extra each month.

After yesterday's fiasco with the child benefit I just cannot wait to leave this country, we are heading to Kelowna next year, OH secured job so CANADA here we come:thumbsup:

Linda P Nov 21st 2007 5:02 am

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Actually getting them to stop paying me was harder than you think!::curse:

Linda

ann m Nov 21st 2007 6:47 am

Re: child benefit
 

Originally Posted by clairemarie70 (Post 5579963)
just wondering if people are still getting there child benefit paid into a uk bank account even though they are living in Canada..or have people just told these people they have immigrated and lost the money???

Please tell me this is a joke?! What do you mean by 'lost the money' ?
Please advise them you are going - no further comment by me either.


Originally Posted by Linda P (Post 5583835)
Actually getting them to stop paying me was harder than you think!::curse:

Linda

:lol: I'm sure I got an extra two payments - long after I told them I was off - but it was so complicated to cancel I just didn't have the energy to try and make contact from this side. That's me committing fraud too, probably ;)

Linda P Nov 21st 2007 7:23 am

Re: child benefit
 
I rang them the month before we left and was told that it was too early to inform them and would I please get back in touch the day before I was leaving.
I explained that I needed to get as much as possible organised before the day I was flying:curse: " sorry, but you really will need to ring the day before"

I rang them the day before, and the next month, and the next month and the next month....and on it went. :curse::curse:

Linda

bazzz Nov 21st 2007 7:40 am

Re: child benefit
 

Originally Posted by Tracie107 (Post 5583467)
It is well documented that most people mainly Eastern Europeans are now able to send their children to private schools as they are receiving hundreds £'s extra each month.

It it? Where?

Craftybanshee Nov 21st 2007 8:57 am

Re: child benefit
 

Originally Posted by Linda P (Post 5584419)
I rang them the month before we left and was told that it was too early to inform them and would I please get back in touch the day before I was leaving.
I explained that I needed to get as much as possible organised before the day I was flying:curse: " sorry, but you really will need to ring the day before"

I rang them the day before, and the next month, and the next month and the next month....and on it went. :curse::curse:

Linda


OMG! What staggering incompetence on their part! WFT do they do all day? Oh yeah, lose the details of some 25 million child benefit recipients and their families bank details, date of birth, bank account details :curse::curse:

At least the director of HMCR did the right thing and quit his job!

Almost Canadian Nov 21st 2007 10:43 am

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Tell me about it - it took forever to get them to stop paying it to us, that was despite telling them before and after on numerous occasions that we were leaving permanently.

To add insult to injury, they even wrote to us at our Canadian address to tell us what our new "award" was going to be - everytime I hear about how overworked the civil servants in the UK are it makes me sick :frown:

Yes are know there are competent ones, it's just that they are in the minority :eek:

Biiiiink Nov 21st 2007 10:50 am

Re: child benefit
 

Originally Posted by bazzz (Post 5584485)
It it? Where?

I just googled "immigrants send children to private school +"child benefit" " and guess what the 1st relevant hit was, the Daily Mail :lol:

link here

bazzz Nov 21st 2007 11:38 am

Re: child benefit
 

Originally Posted by Biiiiink (Post 5585662)
I just googled "immigrants send children to private school +"child benefit" " and guess what the 1st relevant hit was, the Daily Mail :lol:

link here

ONE MILLION POUNDS A MONTH. That's like every person in the UK paying 1.7p of their own money EVERY MONTH. I'm scandalized.


It also underlines how our generous benefits system acts as a powerful draw for migrant workers
Yeah, it's worth working in a different country hundreds of miles away for an extra £33 a week.

The great thing about that article is that they're doing nothing wrong, it's all completely above board and legal, yet they're trying to portray it as if they're somehow being snide and underhand.

RodRos&Co. Nov 21st 2007 8:54 pm

Re: child benefit
 

Originally Posted by Biiiiink (Post 5585662)
I just googled "immigrants send children to private school +"child benefit" " and guess what the 1st relevant hit was, the Daily Mail :lol:

link here

:ohmy::ohmy::ohmy:

Tracie107 Nov 21st 2007 9:33 pm

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Sorry if I have now swayed of the subject but it is still about our HMRC.

The funny thing about all this is that alot of the taxpayers are now facing financial problems due to our dear HMRC's incompetence as they now demand back alot of the monies paid out to British families. :mad:

I myself are one of them -they put in their computer that my husband works 40hrs pw for no salary - therefore they are now demanding that I pay back £3000 paid from 2006/2007. When I wrote to them they stated that 'I should have known I was being paid to much'. Our tax and child benefit system is the most complex in the world know one knows what they are entitled too! Furthermore they themselves don't even understand it however, they will not admit they were completely wrong on this matter.:curse:

I am not sure what I make of the article written as at the time the country was disgusted but either way 1. It can cause alot of problems ie. anger, discrimination etc. or 2. As it is completely above board and legal in the way of - if any immigrants work in this country and pay taxes then they are legally entitled to benefits, unfortunately this really has created alot of problems and caused alot of discrimination against them.

Novocastrian Nov 21st 2007 9:59 pm

Re: child benefit
 

Originally Posted by Tracie107 (Post 5587468)
Sorry if I have now swayed of the subject but it is still about our HMRC.

The funny thing about all this is that alot of the taxpayers are now facing financial problems due to our dear HMRC's incompetence as they now demand back alot of the monies paid out to British families. :mad:

I myself are one of them -they put in their computer that my husband works 40hrs pw for no salary - therefore they are now demanding that I pay back £3000 paid from 2006/2007. When I wrote to them they stated that 'I should have known I was being paid to much'. Our tax and child benefit system is the most complex in the world know one knows what they are entitled too! Furthermore they themselves don't even understand it however, they will not admit they were completely wrong on this matter.:curse:

I am not sure what I make of the article written as at the time the country was disgusted but either way 1. It can cause alot of problems ie. anger, discrimination etc. or 2. As it is completely above board and legal in the way of - if any immigrants work in this country and pay taxes then they are legally entitled to benefits, unfortunately this really has created alot of problems and caused alot of discrimination against them.

Tracie, you are new here so I'll just point out that this stuff has been done to death many a time on this board. If, for some strange reason, you're interested in discovering more, please use the search function. "Bigot" might be a useful keyword.

Tracie107 Nov 21st 2007 11:06 pm

Re: child benefit
 
Sorry, but if you are being rude then there is no need for it - I was replying to post regarding child benefit which went on about the incompetence of the HMRC.

New to the forum or not I thought I was having a discussion with a few people- clearly not, therefore I will shut up then!

Novocastrian Nov 22nd 2007 12:16 am

Re: child benefit
 

Originally Posted by Tracie107 (Post 5587701)
Sorry, but if you are being rude then there is no need for it - I was replying to post regarding child benefit which went on about the incompetence of the HMRC.

New to the forum or not I thought I was having a discussion with a few people- clearly not, therefore I will shut up then!

No, I wan't meaning to be rude. It's just that we've been over this so many times. Start something fresh, maybe about marmite.

Craftybanshee Nov 22nd 2007 12:19 am

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Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 5587921)
No, I wan't meaning to be rude. It's just that we've been over this so many times. Start something fresh, maybe about marmite.


Marmite ........... spread it on your toast or I prefer to eat marmite crisps :D

moondevil Nov 22nd 2007 1:16 am

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HOLD on
Quote " is also eligible for £296 a month in tax credits because he has two children and his family's total income is £38,000 a year."

We dont earn that and we get £28mth tax credits, i think something is wrong somewhere :curse::curse::curse:

bazzz Nov 22nd 2007 2:24 am

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They must have been pretty desperate to run this story as it is. They must have been terribly disappointed that this family was frittering away this money on their child's education and English lessons. Contrast with the usual tales of British benefit scroungers spending it all on booze, fags, Sky TV and playstations.


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