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Old Sep 15th 2016, 11:03 pm
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Originally Posted by Lychee
Do specialty cheese shops not exist elsewhere in Canada?

For those in Vancouver, these are good:

Benton Brother's: Benton Brothers Fine Cheese
La Grotta Del Formaggio:La Grotta del Formaggio | A local Vancouver legend for the finest Italian products.
Les Amis Du Fromage: les amis du FROMAGE – Vancouvers Best Cheese Shop
Urban Fare Yaletown (a supermarket, but a nice cheese selection): Urban Fare | home

On Salt Spring Island, Moonstruck Cheese is delicious: MOONSTRUCK CHEESE SALT SPRING ORGANIC CHEESE - organic milk products, cheeses, blue cheese, certified organic, camembert specialty cheeses
At the Vancouver Farmers Market, the Farm House Cheese company from Agassiz is really good: Front Page | The Farm House Natural Cheeses

Otherwise, if one is discerning about cheese, supermarkets are not the place to go. At least that has been my experience in BC. Perhaps part of the problem is applying English style shopping habits in Canada? In my experience, if you're seeking superior products, the national supermarket chains are typically not the places to go here. This goes for cheese, bread, meat, dairy, etc.
There is a very good cheese shop in Peterbrough, Chasing the Cheese, but that's relatively new. It's much easier to buy good cheese here than it was 8, 10 years ago, As for supermarkets President's Choice has some hood stuff now. I had some tasty Jura cheese from them, and might try an Englisg one called While Fox next.

The price is still outrageous though.
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Default Re: The cheese and wine whine!

Originally Posted by Lychee
Do specialty cheese shops not exist elsewhere in Canada?

For those in Vancouver, these are good:

Benton Brother's: Benton Brothers Fine Cheese
La Grotta Del Formaggio:La Grotta del Formaggio | A local Vancouver legend for the finest Italian products.
Les Amis Du Fromage: les amis du FROMAGE – Vancouvers Best Cheese Shop
Urban Fare Yaletown (a supermarket, but a nice cheese selection): Urban Fare | home

On Salt Spring Island, Moonstruck Cheese is delicious: MOONSTRUCK CHEESE SALT SPRING ORGANIC CHEESE - organic milk products, cheeses, blue cheese, certified organic, camembert specialty cheeses
At the Vancouver Farmers Market, the Farm House Cheese company from Agassiz is really good: Front Page | The Farm House Natural Cheeses

Otherwise, if one is discerning about cheese, supermarkets are not the place to go. At least that has been my experience in BC. Perhaps part of the problem is applying English style shopping habits in Canada? In my experience, if you're seeking superior products, the national supermarket chains are typically not the places to go here. This goes for cheese, bread, meat, dairy, etc.
Such shops do exist. Raclet for dinner for two people is $27 at the market. It's $75 at a cheese boutique.
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Old Sep 16th 2016, 1:20 am
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Originally Posted by Pizzawheel
You put this in your calendar didn't you...
I wish I'd thought of that.

Originally Posted by Lychee
Do specialty cheese shops not exist elsewhere in Canada?
Yes, even here.

Les Gourmandes

Otherwise, if one is discerning about cheese,
Or snooty

supermarkets are not the place to go. At least that has been my experience in BC.
I don't recall too much about cheese in Quebec but given some of the excellent cheese produced there I'm sure some of it is available without the great expedition to a market.

It's noticeable that in my town both the main grocery store rivals, in every store have their cheese by the butter. That's the stuff that's either orange (although 'proper' colour is on the increase) mozzarella or marble. Or processed slices.

Then they have another section with scores of cheeses from France, Italy, Denmark, Switzerland, Germany, Spain, Austria...

I listed some earlier in the thread....Derbyshire, Stilton, Wensleydale, Gruyere, Emmental, Brie, Camembert, Cambozola, Parmigiano Reggiano, DuVillage 1860 Sir Laurier, Saint-André, Dame du Lac, Provolone, Sauvagine, Roquefort, Bocconcini..

I've not been in the UK since 2004 but I don't recall Tesco and Sainsburys in Bristol having acres of fancy stuff. They did, however, have a far better selection of cheddars with taste.
And there are some in this other section, but it just costs a fair bit more and often not worth that bit more than what I would call the inbetweenies that are acceptable.

if you're seeking superior products, the national supermarket chains are typically not the places to go here. This goes for cheese, bread, meat, dairy, etc.
Is this another regional variation?
Certainly when I was first here in 2005 it was a poor selection with the best available being Italian rolls and Dempsters grain bread.

Superstore is brilliant for bread now, Sobeys has a decent selection of what they call artisan breads and even Walmart does very good baguettes and ciabatta.

Just missing clotted cream really.
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Originally Posted by BristolUK
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Just missing clotted cream really.
Me too! Extra thick double cream as well - Fortino's had it once, years ago.. never seen again.

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Almost a year up...better resurrect this thread before it does a Logan's Run and dies.
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Oh dear, as a Scot with a French husband, we love cheese and wine (well, any booze). A move to Canada sounds painful lol.
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Originally Posted by ScotinCanada
Oh dear, as a Scot with a French husband, we love cheese and wine (well, any booze). A move to Canada sounds painful lol.
If you lived in Port Credit you could easily go to the St. Lawrence Market for cheese (walk from Union GO or drive and park in the Monoxide Towers) and to Premier Wines in Buffalo.
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Originally Posted by Siouxie
Me too! Extra thick double cream as well - Fortino's had it once, years ago.. never seen again.

Because Canada banned it.

Dairy products

cheese:
up to 20 kilograms per person
Please note that quantities in excess of $20.00 may be subject to high rates of duty. The Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA) is responsible for determining customs and duties for items coming into Canada.
These items are not allowed

milk
milk products (whey, cream, skim milk, butter oil, and so on)
in these forms: dried, frozen, reconstituted, or fresh
What Can I Bring Into Canada in Terms Of Food, Plant, Animal and Related Products? - Food - Canadian Food Inspection Agency
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Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian
Because Canada banned it.

Dairy products...
These items are not allowed

milk
milk products (whey, cream, skim milk, butter oil, and so on)
in these forms: dried, frozen, reconstituted, or fresh...
Yes, but that stuff is produced here so why cannot clotted cream be produced here?

I know it risks certain Brits complaining it doesn't taste like back home but I'm sure many of us would be happy to have it

Whipping cream works reasonably well with jam and scones.
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Originally Posted by BristolUK
Yes, but that stuff is produced here so why cannot clotted cream be produced here?

I know it risks certain Brits complaining it doesn't taste like back home but I'm sure many of us would be happy to have it

Whipping cream works reasonably well with jam and scones.
Different cows eating different grass and drinking different water
and different voltage to heat the the full cream cows milk of course the clotted cream would taste different
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Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian
Different cows eating different grass and drinking different water
This.

and different voltage to heat the the full cream cows milk of course the clotted cream would taste different
But not this.
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I suspect the culprit behind lack of good affordable wine and cheese is the government. In the mid to late '70's they brought in a protectionist duty on foreign wine raising the cost of a nice bottle of French wine from around $4.50 to $7+, and that was even before the growers in the Okanagan tore up all their vines and burned them and re-planted with European varietal grapes, and the dairy business seems to be regulated so that just enough milk is produced for domestic consumption and to keep US dairy products out. There are some good local cheese makers but few and far between. I remember we used to bring back a lot of cheese every time we went shopping at Prince's in Oroville, but it wasn't for me and it was all orange. I try to boycott Kraft, this PC Extra is what I got yesterday, if I buy a wheel of brie or blue or whatever it's got a half price sticker on it.
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Originally Posted by caretaker
I try to boycott Kraft, this PC Extra is what I got yesterday...
PC Extra isn't bad. But Kraft Cracker Barrel Extra is identical IMO. Why the boycott?

I'm going to plug Cracker Barrel Special Reserve again.

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Call it a hold over from the hippy days, like Don't Eat California Grapes, everywhere you see oppression it's your duty to act, even if only in a personal capacity.
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Originally Posted by caretaker
Call it a hold over from the hippy days...
Nothing wrong with that. I used to avoid stuff from South Africa and Chile. For other things I was guided by Amnesty Int.

So many companies own other companies it's often impossible to do it.

I don't buy prawns sourced from Thailand though. That's quite an easy one.
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