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#766
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I think the same. it is usually out of friendliness/trying to be kind such word like dear is used in some cultures and don't think she meant to be patronizing at all.

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Well, I grew up in Lancashire in the 1950s and early 1960s when people still used "dear" ........... shop assistants, neighbours, policemen, bus conductors, etc etc.
It was never used by a younger person to an older person, nor to someone who knew more than you did, unless you intended to be disparaging, in which case the tone of voice indicated it.
I certainly took it as patronising or disparaging, which is why I posted above.
I'm not sure whether "dear" is still used in the North of England!
But this might also be a case of speech vs posting on the internet, when it is all too easy to be misunderstood, and hence wisest to avoid using certain terms and phrases.
It was never used by a younger person to an older person, nor to someone who knew more than you did, unless you intended to be disparaging, in which case the tone of voice indicated it.
I certainly took it as patronising or disparaging, which is why I posted above.
I'm not sure whether "dear" is still used in the North of England!
But this might also be a case of speech vs posting on the internet, when it is all too easy to be misunderstood, and hence wisest to avoid using certain terms and phrases.

#768
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Many thanks for the clarification. Does help my case as luckily, my last 7 years was as GP partner in one practice and it is easy to get reference letter.

#769
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With all due respect, firstly christmasoompa is well versed in immigration matters and is one of our most valued and knowledgeable members, having worked in the immigration industry for many years. I would suggest you take heed as she is quite correct.
Unfortunately it seems that you are confusing the initial come to Canada tool with the CRS tool to ascertain points for Express Entry. Two totally different things.
CRS is where you will need in the region of 440+ points in order to obtain an ITA under Express Entry as a Federal Skilled Worker - what YOU are talking about is the initial Come to Canada wizard on the Govt. website - where you need a minimum of 67 points in order to initially qualify to apply for any of the Federal Skilled Worker routes - and where work experience years are as christmasoompa has indicated.
Perhaps it would help you to read up on Immigration and Express Entry..
To ascertain if you have enough points to qualify to apply:
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration...nada-tool.html
To ascertain if you are likely to have sufficient points to get you an ITA:
Comprehensive Ranking System (CRS) tool: skilled immigrants (Express Entry)
A guide to Express Entry:
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration...try/works.html
If you have any questions about immigration matters, do feel free to post a thread in our Immigration forum where christmasoompa and other experts - together with members who have already been through the process - will be happy to offer you guidance.
Again, with respect, it's better NOT to offer advice on immigration matters unless you are absolutely sure you are correct. Additionally, whenever possible it's advisable to give a link to the official website, together with your suggestion - and if you are not 100% sure, perhaps put 'I believe' or 'I think'

Unfortunately it seems that you are confusing the initial come to Canada tool with the CRS tool to ascertain points for Express Entry. Two totally different things.
CRS is where you will need in the region of 440+ points in order to obtain an ITA under Express Entry as a Federal Skilled Worker - what YOU are talking about is the initial Come to Canada wizard on the Govt. website - where you need a minimum of 67 points in order to initially qualify to apply for any of the Federal Skilled Worker routes - and where work experience years are as christmasoompa has indicated.
Perhaps it would help you to read up on Immigration and Express Entry..

To ascertain if you have enough points to qualify to apply:
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration...nada-tool.html
To ascertain if you are likely to have sufficient points to get you an ITA:
Comprehensive Ranking System (CRS) tool: skilled immigrants (Express Entry)
A guide to Express Entry:
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration...try/works.html
If you have any questions about immigration matters, do feel free to post a thread in our Immigration forum where christmasoompa and other experts - together with members who have already been through the process - will be happy to offer you guidance.
Again, with respect, it's better NOT to offer advice on immigration matters unless you are absolutely sure you are correct. Additionally, whenever possible it's advisable to give a link to the official website, together with your suggestion - and if you are not 100% sure, perhaps put 'I believe' or 'I think'



#770
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Hey guys,
it seems that my application is going through, CPSO has accepted everything.
currently have lots of mixed feelings, excitement with worrisome
I would be really grateful if you have any advice on things I should be preparing for, looking out for before leaving UK, and starting in Canada ?
one other issue is a very simple question, would I be expected to work with my UK knowledge and guidelines ? or is there any induction pack or any resource to look at the differences of guidance ?
for instances, simple things like 1st lines abx ? inhalers ? when to refer ? etc
thanks all
it seems that my application is going through, CPSO has accepted everything.
currently have lots of mixed feelings, excitement with worrisome
I would be really grateful if you have any advice on things I should be preparing for, looking out for before leaving UK, and starting in Canada ?
one other issue is a very simple question, would I be expected to work with my UK knowledge and guidelines ? or is there any induction pack or any resource to look at the differences of guidance ?
for instances, simple things like 1st lines abx ? inhalers ? when to refer ? etc
thanks all

#771
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Can I please clarify regarding Nominee Programme. Looks like it can fetch you plenty of points under CRS. I looked at Ontario International Nominee Programme(OINP) and wondered whether employers nominate you or support you for obtaining this. Will be grateful for further information.
Thanks
Thanks

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Can I please clarify regarding Nominee Programme. Looks like it can fetch you plenty of points under CRS. I looked at Ontario International Nominee Programme(OINP) and wondered whether employers nominate you or support you for obtaining this. Will be grateful for further information.
Thanks
Thanks
Please start a new thread in our Immigration Forum for Immigration related questions.. this thread is for general information pertaining to working as a Doctor in Canada, Immigration questions are better kept to the Immi forum where you'll get lots of help..
Thanks


#773
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Hi everyone,
Can someone kindly point out the pros and cons of moving to Canada via work permit rather than PR. PR process seems daunting and worried will not meet the points required.
Can someone kindly point out the pros and cons of moving to Canada via work permit rather than PR. PR process seems daunting and worried will not meet the points required.

#774

Thx.

#775
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Hi all,
I have been lurking on the forum for a while, as my partner and I are very interested in moving over from the UK. We are both graduates, and my partner has good basis for applying for PR as a federal skilled worker. As I have been planning to study medicine as a mature student, I would like to hear any thoughts on going to medical school in Canada once a PR, vs in the UK.
Thanks!
I have been lurking on the forum for a while, as my partner and I are very interested in moving over from the UK. We are both graduates, and my partner has good basis for applying for PR as a federal skilled worker. As I have been planning to study medicine as a mature student, I would like to hear any thoughts on going to medical school in Canada once a PR, vs in the UK.
Thanks!

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It is probably much more expensive here!

#777
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Hi, I've had a really good read and this is a very helpful thread, so thank you to all the contributors.
I have quite a specific issue and would be grateful for the thoughts of anyone who has gone through the system.
I am a qualified GP. My wife is an anaesthetic trainee, and is keen on a 1 year fellowship in Canada, for which there appears to be significantly less hoop-jumping required, possibly as it is an in hospital supervised post.
I was looking at options for myself to work. I would not be able/wanting to set up independent practice due to timescale, which clearly limits my options. The options for my wife's fellowship are major cities eg Vancouver/Calgary.
I understand I would need a supervisor if I were working as a GP, and I would need to pass the MCQEE (although this is not entirely clear on the Alberta website due to the changes), as well as the TDM. I would also need to pay significant fees for documents/process etc (+ visa requirements).
I am wondering whether it is practical to practice as a GP for such a short time - is the learning curve of Canadian terminology/practice long enough to make this a bad idea? Is anyone aware of any posts that would be better suited than me going the route that has been described in this thread? I had come across some 8-9 month locum post mentioned but am having difficulty tracking things down. I will probably send an email to AHS.
I suppose another option would be for me to take a year trying to develop some different skills within a directly supervised environment, eg spend time in emergency medicine/some orthopaedics. I have not found anything obviously available but there does seem to be more integration between GP and hospital work. Again, is anyone aware of anything along these lines?
General principles are that earning potential is not really a major consideration as long as there's enough to live on/pay mortgage back home.
I'd be very grateful for any thoughts.
I have quite a specific issue and would be grateful for the thoughts of anyone who has gone through the system.
I am a qualified GP. My wife is an anaesthetic trainee, and is keen on a 1 year fellowship in Canada, for which there appears to be significantly less hoop-jumping required, possibly as it is an in hospital supervised post.
I was looking at options for myself to work. I would not be able/wanting to set up independent practice due to timescale, which clearly limits my options. The options for my wife's fellowship are major cities eg Vancouver/Calgary.
I understand I would need a supervisor if I were working as a GP, and I would need to pass the MCQEE (although this is not entirely clear on the Alberta website due to the changes), as well as the TDM. I would also need to pay significant fees for documents/process etc (+ visa requirements).
I am wondering whether it is practical to practice as a GP for such a short time - is the learning curve of Canadian terminology/practice long enough to make this a bad idea? Is anyone aware of any posts that would be better suited than me going the route that has been described in this thread? I had come across some 8-9 month locum post mentioned but am having difficulty tracking things down. I will probably send an email to AHS.
I suppose another option would be for me to take a year trying to develop some different skills within a directly supervised environment, eg spend time in emergency medicine/some orthopaedics. I have not found anything obviously available but there does seem to be more integration between GP and hospital work. Again, is anyone aware of anything along these lines?
General principles are that earning potential is not really a major consideration as long as there's enough to live on/pay mortgage back home.
I'd be very grateful for any thoughts.

#778
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Hello Everyone,
My husband (non medical) are trying to navigate this process as we have family in Canada and would like to move soon.
im currently at the start of ST3 and due to finish in April next year but have a few questions.
A bit of background, I’m in the process of source verification so I can do the MCCQE1 exam as soon as possible and are looking at Nova Scotia mainly because of a few incentives and proximity to the UK
Does anyone have any words of advice or experience as a family physician in this province as we have 2 young kids.
Also to speed up the process and make it as efficient as possible, following MCCQE1 what would you recommend. I’ve been told that the second part can be completed in Canada?
Has anyone on this forum successfully moved straight after CCT?
Apologies for the numerous questions but there’s a lot of Info out there and it all gets confusing.
thanks in advance
My husband (non medical) are trying to navigate this process as we have family in Canada and would like to move soon.
im currently at the start of ST3 and due to finish in April next year but have a few questions.
A bit of background, I’m in the process of source verification so I can do the MCCQE1 exam as soon as possible and are looking at Nova Scotia mainly because of a few incentives and proximity to the UK
Does anyone have any words of advice or experience as a family physician in this province as we have 2 young kids.
Also to speed up the process and make it as efficient as possible, following MCCQE1 what would you recommend. I’ve been told that the second part can be completed in Canada?
Has anyone on this forum successfully moved straight after CCT?
Apologies for the numerous questions but there’s a lot of Info out there and it all gets confusing.
thanks in advance

#779
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Hi All,
Thank you to everyone for the immensely helpful information in this thread. My partner and I are moving to Toronto this summer (2019) - I am a permanent resident and she is a Canadian citizen. She is also a UK-GP trainee, currently coming to the end of her ST3 year.
I am trying to still get my head around the details of the application for licensure, and wanted to check if my understanding is correct.... I think she needs to do the following:
Thanks again to everyone who has posted their advice on here over the last few years - It has been incredibly useful! And thanks in advance to anyone who might be able to help me with my questions!
Thank you to everyone for the immensely helpful information in this thread. My partner and I are moving to Toronto this summer (2019) - I am a permanent resident and she is a Canadian citizen. She is also a UK-GP trainee, currently coming to the end of her ST3 year.
I am trying to still get my head around the details of the application for licensure, and wanted to check if my understanding is correct.... I think she needs to do the following:
- Finish ST3 in the UK and obtain MRCGP and CCT
- Get MRGP/CCT/Medical School Degree source verified through physicians apply
- Apply to the CFCP for membership
- followed by "Application process for recognition of training and certification from approved jurisdictions"
- Identify an appropriate supervisor within Ontario.
- Apply to the CPSO (Ontario licensing authority) for a restricted license.
- Practice under supervision while studying for and sitting the MCQE1 and 2.
- I missing anything from the above process?
- Can anybody provide any advice for finding a supervisor in the GTA region. (Most advice previously appears to be regarding BC).
- Is there a minimum length of the supervisory period - or can she apply for an independant license as soon as she has passed MCCQE1 & 2
Thanks again to everyone who has posted their advice on here over the last few years - It has been incredibly useful! And thanks in advance to anyone who might be able to help me with my questions!
