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Old Mar 21st 2015, 7:38 pm
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Originally Posted by Dr Orakzai View Post
Hi Hasan
Thanks for the info. but according to my knowledge the system has changed from Jan 2015 where u can apply for Pr ship online rather than TWP going to embassy as u guys have done & then if they approve ur application u will be invited to apply for Pr ship & u land in canada with Pr ship rather than TWP & as long as ur job is in the NOC (shortage occupation list) which i presume Gp are.

below is the link,
Fill out your profile – Skilled immigrants (Express Entry)

having a job offer & provicial nomination will get u top of the list i see here & u will land with Pr ship. I presume u can change ur employer/proviven if u dont like as u are not on work permit or dependant on their visa.
Note: would like to know where u are from, I am from pakistan!.

Dr Orakzai,

Where do you want to work? Have you contacted any of the provincial recruitment agencies. I did everything through Healthmatch BC and although the process was frustrating at times they were very helpful.
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Hi Everyone,
I've just joined the forum and have found your posts very helpful. After a few years of thinking about it, Ive decided to make the move and will start the process shortly. I am looking to move to Ontario, in or around Toronto, so Hassan78 I may be in touch for a few additional tips if that's ok.
Please see below for some information I've been sent by HFO (Health Force Ontario) which I've found helpful to get started and I hope this helps those of you who are interested in an Ontario move. I've added their contacts at the bottom.
Tip: copy and paste info below into a word doc for an easier read.

License Requirements

In order to practice medicine in Ontario, you will need a certificate of registration from the College of Physicians and Surgeons of Ontario (CPSO). The requirements for Independent registration in Ontario includes:

· A medical degree from an accredited Canadian or U.S. medical school, or from an acceptable medical school listed in the World Directory of Medical Schools.

Completion of the Medical Council of Canada (MCC) Qualifying Exam Parts 1 & 2
Certification from the College of Family Physicians of Canada (CFPC) for family physicians or from the Royal College of Physicians and Surgeons of Canada (RCPSC) for specialists
Canadian citizenship, permanent residence or a work permit

Completion in Canada of one year of postgraduate training or active medical practice (this requirement may be waived if the candidate has met all of the other requirements.)

College of Family Physicians of Canada (CFPC):

The College of Family Physicians of Canada will permit Family Medicine physicians who’ve completed training in a recognized jurisdiction (Ireland, UK, USA or Australia) obtained the proper certification, apply for reciprocal CFPC certification “without examination”, which saves you from having to write the CFPC certification exam.

From the CFPC website – for UK-trained physicians:

Graduates of general practice vocational training programmes that have been accredited by the General Medical Council (GMC) and who meet the standards of the Royal College of General Practitioners (RCGP) and who also hold membership in the Royal College of General Practitioners (MRCGP)

So, once you have been deemed officially eligible by the CFPC for certification without examination and have a formal plan in place for taking the Medical Council of Canada Qualifying exams the CPSO does have a policy called the Restricted Certificate of Registration for Exam Eligible Candidates which would allow you to apply for a restricted license and begin practice in Ontario under supervision (for a maximum of 3 years) while you work towards completing the outstanding exams required to obtain an independent license.

Here are some links to the various policies I’ve covered in this email if you would like to read further:

Certification without examination: Recognized Training | Alternative Pathways to Certification in Family Medicine | Education | The College of Family Physicians Canada

Independent Registration Requirements: Independent Practice Certificate of Registration | Registration Requirements | Registering to Practise Medicine in Ontario | College of Physicians and Surgeons of Ontario

Restricted Certificate of Registration for Exam Eligible Candidates: Restricted Certificate of Registration for Exam Eligible Candidates | Policy | Policies & Publications | College of Physicians and Surgeons of Ontario

Medical Council of Canada: http://www.mcc.ca/en/exams/

Physiciansapply.ca

The first step in this whole process will be to have your credentials verified by the national registry called Physiciansapply.ca

(physiciansapply.ca) You’ll need to have your credentials verified before you can proceed with applying to the CFPC.

Below are the specific documents that need to be verified by the Physiciansapply.ca (Specifics of what you need are on the CFPC application form, page 5: CFPC application):


Medical degree
Confirmation of postgraduate family medicine training
Certification in family medicine



Here’s a step-by-step list of what you need to do:

(1) Register the required credentials with Physiciansapply.ca – the process can take 2-3 months to verify your credentials

(2) Apply to become an active member of the CFPC (http://www.cfpc.ca/becomeamember2/)

(3) Submit a letter of intent, CV and completed application form to the CFPC (Recognized Training | Alternative Pathways to Certification in Family Medicine | Education | The College of Family Physicians Canada). Indicate that you are in the process of applying to the CPSO

(4) Request a customized application package from the CPSO, which you can do by calling 416-967-2600 ext 221. Tell them that you are applying for certification without exam from the CFPC based on your training and certification from the UK. Complete and submit the application. If you don’t yet have a position and supervisor lined up, include a cover letter explaining that you are actively looking for a job and will submit a supervision arrangement as soon as you have one.


You can do all these things pretty much simultaneously, though really the Physiciansapply.ca is the first thing you should do as verification - the CFPC won’t do too much with your application until you’ve completed Physiciansapply.ca verification.

COntacts:
163 Queen Street East
Toronto, ON M5A 1S1
Tel: 416-945-3687 | Fax: 416-862-4818

[email protected]

HealthForceOntario | Home

Because there was some interest in Alberta I tought I'd add the website below. I found this on doctors.net.uk but I'm not sure if you can view it without a doctors.net acct but try. http://careers.doctors.net.uk/employ...lth-Services/0

Good luck to all of you, no matter where you are in your journey!
I'm sure I'll be in touch again.
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hi Tweet6!

sure! You can contact any time you have Qs and will be more than happy to help!

where are you in the process?
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Old Mar 25th 2015, 1:34 pm
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This is a message for christmasoompa (moderator) the msg was for informative purpose & not copyright infringement. This was to enquire what mentioned there on the website is true or not & what are the comments from people who who are working & living there & if they have experienced any problem?
I hope u will not take off the link if i cannot put the whole msg. The whole aim is to generate a debate. thanks
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This is a message for christmasoompa (moderator) the msg was for informative purpose & not copyright infringement.
I realise it was for 'information', but it's still copyright infringement. Site Rule 7 is very clear if you'd like to take the time to re-read it please.

But in any event, that whole website is a load of b*&%!$*s! A quick forum search will find lots of similar debates on the same subject, and about the same website.
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This is a message for christmasoompa (moderator) the msg was for informative purpose & not copyright infringement. This was to enquire what mentioned there on the website is true or not & what are the comments from people who who are working & living there & if they have experienced any problem?
I hope u will not take off the link if i cannot put the whole msg. The whole aim is to generate a debate. thanks
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Why do you need to generate a debate? There is plenty of information out there if you do the research which will give you a clearer idea about living in Canada. This forum is a good start... There are wiki articles and threads on immigration, cost of living, cultural differences and becoming a Family Physician over here. I think the way that article is written it's clear that it is a pile of rubbish with a clear bias.

You first need to establish whether your medical training will meet the requirements set by an individual province so you can work here and then visa requirements...
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wow it's been years since the NOT Canada muppets raised their heads .

Welcome back <waves>

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*Awesome*

I now salute the way this thread has turned....love The Muppets!
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Hi
This is a message for christmasoompa (moderator) the msg was for informative purpose & not copyright infringement. This was to enquire what mentioned there on the website is true or not & what are the comments from people who who are working & living there & if they have experienced any problem?
I hope u will not take off the link if i cannot put the whole msg. The whole aim is to generate a debate. thanks
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I am not sure what your motive is here, it smacks of trolling to me. We give advice when asked to GPs,hacked off with the NHS looking to move abroad. We are honest, giving warts and all comments about working in the Canadian Health system having been working here for a considerable time. We explain what we perceive as the pros and cons as do others on the forum about life in general in Canada rather than just the medical work related stuff. I can assure you should you chose to spend some time reading posts that we all don't think that Canada is some wonderful Nirvana. Neither is the UK!
Are you in fact Simon Stevens,CEO of NHS England trying to stop the exodus of GPs or are you just sh#t stirring?
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I am not sure what your motive is here, it smacks of trolling to me. We give advice when asked to GPs,hacked off with the NHS looking to move abroad. We are honest, giving warts and all comments about working in the Canadian Health system having been working here for a considerable time. We explain what we perceive as the pros and cons as do others on the forum about life in general in Canada rather than just the medical work related stuff. I can assure you should you chose to spend some time reading posts that we all don't think that Canada is some wonderful Nirvana. Neither is the UK!
Are you in fact Simon Stevens,CEO of NHS England trying to stop the exodus of GPs or are you just sh#t stirring?
Blimey, that's a bit strong! The 'Not Canada' website is well known on BE, and asked about occasionally - I don't think that Dr Orakzai was doing anything other than asking if it was true or not, as others have done in the past.

Clearly it's a load of rubbish, but he didn't write it! It's been around for many years.
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Maybe I misinterpreted him in which case, sorry Mr Stevens(lol) - he might well get more info by spending some time reading about good and bad stuff from us real life muppets on the forum! I will be Beaker btw
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*Awesome*

I now salute the way this thread has turned....love The Muppets!

I have to agree
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hi Tweet6!

sure! You can contact any time you have Qs and will be more than happy to help!

where are you in the process?

Thanks! I have literally just started.
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