Certification for trades - job searching
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Certification for trades - job searching
OH qualified for industrial electrician or instrument technician, does have an apprenticeship through the Royal Navy with relevant qualifications (he's a marine engineering articifer electronics if this clarifies anything. Have looked at Red Seal and also IQAS. Does he need to do both of these? A lot of jobs are for journeymen, does this mean someone who has an apprenticeship? Also saw a couple who needed to be a journeyman with ticket (its like a different language). Does the ticketed part mean being in a trade union? Does he have to join one first or when he gets a job? So many questions - thought they spoke english over there
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Re: Certification for trades - job searching
OH qualified for industrial electrician or instrument technician, does have an apprenticeship through the Royal Navy with relevant qualifications (he's a marine engineering articifer electronics if this clarifies anything. Have looked at Red Seal and also IQAS. Does he need to do both of these? A lot of jobs are for journeymen, does this mean someone who has an apprenticeship? Also saw a couple who needed to be a journeyman with ticket (its like a different language). Does the ticketed part mean being in a trade union? Does he have to join one first or when he gets a job? So many questions - thought they spoke english over there
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Re: Certification for trades - job searching
As a qualified electrician in England to an unqualified electrician in Canada, let me share some points I wish I had known about.
I live in Saskatchewan which requires a "Journeyman" certificate. As I live near the border of Alberta many jobs in Alberta require a different qualification and some even require a "Master" electrician rating.
So how do you obtain these? I was informed by the Electrical Contractor's Association of Saskatchewan and a government office who assess international qualifications that I would have to work for a year with a Journeyman as a mate/4th year apprentice. After that time I could then apply for the Journeyman after an assessment/examination.
The drawback here is that while working for that year doing the job of an electrician you will be on a reduced rate.
Find out all the ins an outs before moving here and hitting this potential roadblock.
I live in Saskatchewan which requires a "Journeyman" certificate. As I live near the border of Alberta many jobs in Alberta require a different qualification and some even require a "Master" electrician rating.
So how do you obtain these? I was informed by the Electrical Contractor's Association of Saskatchewan and a government office who assess international qualifications that I would have to work for a year with a Journeyman as a mate/4th year apprentice. After that time I could then apply for the Journeyman after an assessment/examination.
The drawback here is that while working for that year doing the job of an electrician you will be on a reduced rate.
Find out all the ins an outs before moving here and hitting this potential roadblock.
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Re: Certification for trades - job searching
MULCRUF - I would contact the examinng body for SK and get them to assess your UK qualifications, to see if they are equivalent to a Canadian apprenticeship.
If they are then you can challenge the journeyman / Red Seal exam straight away (or whenever they book it!)
As you know journeyman qualifies you for the province you took it in, Red Seal is interprovincial.
What you may not know is that if you go straight for the Red Seal exam (pass mark 80% I think) if you fail with more than 75% you get awarded the journeyman anyway. (Or so I believe - I know someone this happened to.)
So to recap, gather together your proof of UK apprenticeship, proof of (its going to be around 4000 hours) time served following apprenticeship, and letters of reference from UK employers confirming your length of time served on the job - and get in touch with the examining body.
If the above is going to prove too much of a pain now you are here, then unfortunately you will have to suck it up and just do your 4th year here and write the exam after that (although do check if you can go straight for the Red Seal)
HTH and good luck
If they are then you can challenge the journeyman / Red Seal exam straight away (or whenever they book it!)
As you know journeyman qualifies you for the province you took it in, Red Seal is interprovincial.
What you may not know is that if you go straight for the Red Seal exam (pass mark 80% I think) if you fail with more than 75% you get awarded the journeyman anyway. (Or so I believe - I know someone this happened to.)
So to recap, gather together your proof of UK apprenticeship, proof of (its going to be around 4000 hours) time served following apprenticeship, and letters of reference from UK employers confirming your length of time served on the job - and get in touch with the examining body.
If the above is going to prove too much of a pain now you are here, then unfortunately you will have to suck it up and just do your 4th year here and write the exam after that (although do check if you can go straight for the Red Seal)
HTH and good luck