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Souvenir Oct 30th 2008 8:17 am

Re: in case you are thinking of settling in Quebec
 

Originally Posted by Canada2006 (Post 6926078)
Oh my God! That's quite amazing really - Québec's society has come a long way in 30-40 years.

It has. I'm no historian but I suspect the current liberal attitudes are a direct result of the former power of the catholic church.

macadian Oct 30th 2008 9:03 am

Re: in case you are thinking of settling in Quebec
 

Originally Posted by Souvenir (Post 6926180)
It has. I'm no historian but I suspect the current liberal attitudes are a direct result of the former power of the catholic church.

Let them do what they like, they will anyway and the rest of Canada will have the priviledge of paying them handsomely into the bargain!:blink:

fledermaus Oct 30th 2008 10:04 am

Re: in case you are thinking of settling in Quebec
 

Originally Posted by Rich_007 (Post 6923881)
It's all common sense. Quebec is unique, and distinct, keep it so, and quit the whining, whiners.

They're preserving their culture, in the face of an invasion of dull homogenized North American mall-life and bland creeping consumerism.:thumbdown:

Keep at it, mon amis, et pardon les Franglaises.

R.

Who was whining?

jimf Oct 30th 2008 9:59 pm

Re: in case you are thinking of settling in Quebec
 
The rest of Canada does seem to be very tolerant of the Quebec "specialness".

Some quotes from Wikipedia..........

Institutional bilingualism in various forms therefore predates the Canadian Confederation in 1867. However, for many years English occupied a de facto privileged position, and French was not fully equal. The two languages have gradually achieved a greater level of equality in most of the provinces, and full equality at the federal level. The trend has been very different in Quebec, however, where in the 1970s English lost its status of full equality with French, which is now, both in practice and in law, the sole official language of Quebec.

[edit] Education Rights (section 23 of the Charter and section 59 of the Constitution Act, 1982)
Main article: Section Twenty-three of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms
Section 23 provides a limited right to receive publicly-funded primary and secondary-schooling in the two official languages when they are "in a minority situation"--in other words, to English-language schooling in Quebec, and to French-language schooling in the rest of the country.


[edit] Asymmetrical application of education rights in Quebec and elsewhere in Canada
The right applies asymmetrically because section 59 of the Constitution Act, 1982 provides that not all of the language rights listed in section 23 will apply in Quebec. Specifically:

In Quebec, a child may be educated in English only if at least one parent or a sibling was educated in Canada in English.
In the rest of Canada, a child may be educated in French if at least one parent or a sibling was educated in Canada in French, or if at least one parent has French as his or her mother tongue (defined in section 23 as "first language learned and still understood").
One practical consequence of this asymmetry is to require all migrants who arrive in Quebec from foreign countries to place their children in French-language schools—including immigrants whose mother tongue is English and immigrants who received their schooling in English.

On the other hand, Section 23 provides a nearly universal right to English-language schooling for the children of Canadian-born Anglophones living in Quebec.

Section 23 also provides a nearly universal right to French-language schooling for the children of all Francophones living outside Quebec, including immigrants from French-speaking countries who settle outside Quebec.

Londonuck Oct 30th 2008 10:15 pm

Re: in case you are thinking of settling in Quebec
 

Originally Posted by Canada2006 (Post 6926009)
the Catholic church was part of the "problem" of the French speakers not having an equal part of society. In any case, it's much less powerful today, thank God.

Thank God... made me giggle.

macadian Oct 31st 2008 2:32 am

Re: in case you are thinking of settling in Quebec
 
re the thread title, this is a must link. It may be a little out of date but I am assured my many that its still pertanent today. I Have posted it before but many may not have seen it. Too much to 'cut & paste' hence the link.

http://www.languagefairness.org/Cost.php

Draw your own conclusions...:blink:

neill Oct 31st 2008 2:49 am

Re: in case you are thinking of settling in Quebec
 

Originally Posted by iaink (Post 6925983)
LOL, "separation of church and state"; hasnt Quebec traditionally been dominated by the catholic church?

Quiet Revolution:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quiet_Revolution

I for one, as an immigrant, agree with the spirit of the declaration. But they do need to make more effort to help people learn French.

neill Oct 31st 2008 3:01 am

Re: in case you are thinking of settling in Quebec
 

Originally Posted by Canada2006 (Post 6925907)
I'm not too sure about this, but I've found in some ways that Québec humour is closer to English humour than French or Belgian humour. I'm not sure if it's closer than the rest of Canada. Québecers are, in any case, very very different from Frenchies and Belgians I find.

One of the things that really surprised me, and may be it oughtn't to have, was how well dressed people are going to work. I expected a greater level of informity, but people dress here more smartly than in Belgium.

As for Charest's new rule - it's just stupid. Frankly, if you're low enough to think that women are second class citizens you are low enough to lie by putting your signature to something that you don't believe in. Oh, and it's conveniently timed just before an election is going to be called in Québec for the "national" assembly.

I think that Quebec is closer to a mix of UK/France attitudes in many subtle aspects.
In many respects Montreal, with its English/Scot/Irish/French/Greek/Italian roots would be a model city for the European Union!

dingbat Oct 31st 2008 3:24 am

Re: in case you are thinking of settling in Quebec
 

Originally Posted by Souvenir (Post 6924857)
Souvette tells me that Quebec humour, particularly the satirical stuff, like Infoman, is much closer to Brit humour than is anglo-Canadian humour. Is that the case?

I'd agree - not that I am from Quebec, but I work with a woman who is. She is the only Canuck I know who can have me in fits with her one-liners (in French). It is the same dry observation based humour, without a doubt, but it does get a little lost in translation. In my head I have to go from her French, to my French and then to English....:blink:

montreal mike Nov 1st 2008 7:50 am

Re: in case you are thinking of settling in Quebec
 
[QUOTE=Canada2006;6925907]I'm not too sure about this, but I've found in some ways that Québec humour .]

a perfect example

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNew...101?s_name=use


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