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Sian22040 Sep 6th 2016 8:15 pm

Car insurance underwriter jobs
 
Hi I currently work in the underwriting department of a car insurance firm. I have experience working throughout the company claims, customer service, renewals and sales so have a good knowledge of UK car insurance. I am looking at emigrating to Canada and have a lot of questions:
would like to know whether the car insurance industry is similar or completely different?

What the job market is like?

Is there any areas where these jobs are particularly in demand?

Do you need to have the CIP in order to get a job?

Has anyone done the CIP from the UK?

Average salary?

Thank you

wonderwoman Sep 19th 2016 1:36 am

Re: Car insurance underwriter jobs
 
Job market and salary depend on where you're based. A good starting point, check out the websites for some of the larger companies ( intact, rsa, aviva, portage mutual, co-operators) As for CIP, again depends on the company and position you take ( ie: trainee UW or senior UW)

Aviator Sep 19th 2016 2:08 am

Re: Car insurance underwriter jobs
 
Unless you are Canadian, you may want to check out what permit or visa you could come to Canada under. Read the Wiki on this site.

I have my doubts an insurance job would qualify for a positive LMIA. If under 30 look at IEC.

Atlantic Xpat Sep 19th 2016 7:56 am

Re: Car insurance underwriter jobs
 
You might want to check out Johnson Insurance in St Johns. They are part of RSA Group and as such might be more open to UK experience.

dbd33 Sep 19th 2016 12:19 pm

Re: Car insurance underwriter jobs
 

Originally Posted by Atlantic Xpat (Post 12055993)
You might want to check out Johnson Insurance in St Johns. They are part of RSA Group and as such might be more open to UK experience.

RSA and Aviva write car insurance in Canada but I don't know how transferrable underwriting skills would be. I should think most of the knowledge needed in P&C insurance here is local.

For example, how the Facility Association works, which Provinces have risk sharing pools and when they apply, which provincial legislation applies to which policies; can you use gender, credit rating and so on to rate this policy? Well, perhaps not on a Thursday in Newfoundland. If some criterion is not allowed, what surrogate is used?

Underwriting in the UK is about the risk, here it's about the administrivia.

nikki dreaming Sep 22nd 2016 9:38 pm

Re: Car insurance underwriter jobs
 
I work for RSA and Johnson from their Nova Scotia office, I work in claims and risk mgt. I worked for LV= in the UK before moving 7 years ago. We have a mix of staff from all over the world.

CIP is preferable it also helps with understanding the different insurance climate here from the UK.

I joined insurance institute of Canada while still in the UK. I was able to arrange sitting my first exam in London before we left the UK, I then finished it once I moved to Canada. Company paid for my courses.

Ontario is the main hub but all the big players have offices throughout Canada. It depends on structure, our personal lines underwriting is now centralized out of Ontario, we have commercial UW presence in our various regions, claims is a mixture.

Starting your CIP from the UK would be very beneficial for the job hunt. The institute in Canada liaised with their counterparts in the UK to arrange the exam sitting for me.

Hope that helps

Nikki

nikki dreaming Sep 22nd 2016 9:40 pm

Re: Car insurance underwriter jobs
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 12056139)
RSA and Aviva write car insurance in Canada but I don't know how transferrable underwriting skills would be. I should think most of the knowledge needed in P&C insurance here is local.

For example, how the Facility Association works, which Provinces have risk sharing pools and when they apply, which provincial legislation applies to which policies; can you use gender, credit rating and so on to rate this policy? Well, perhaps not on a Thursday in Newfoundland. If some criterion is not allowed, what surrogate is used?

Underwriting in the UK is about the risk, here it's about the administrivia.

100% agree 😊

nikki dreaming Sep 23rd 2016 1:10 am

Re: Car insurance underwriter jobs
 
Some additional thoughts, the broker market here is far bigger than the UK, so broker channels may also be an option for you , also Insurance is highly regulated, you may be covered under company licensing or you may need individual, depends on the role/ company you join and the Province,for example as a claims examiner/adjuster you are required to hold a licence regardless of Company status and this requires CIP exams , for some Atlantic provinces and ️Quebec , Underwriters
are generally covered under a company licence if they are the insurer.

I also agree LMIA is unlikely I have only seen intra company transfers for senior roles, the insurance market here is quite full with available people, however experience is hard to come by and if you can get here visa wise and have shown commitment to the studying , companies are definitely interested, it's a struggle to find experienced people, a huge number in the industry are now in retirement stages

DandNHill Sep 23rd 2016 1:18 am

Re: Car insurance underwriter jobs
 
Admiral insurance has a large office in Halifax. You'd fit in right now as their client base is in the uk.
Doesn't help you get into the Canadian insurance market though.

dbd33 Sep 23rd 2016 1:23 am

Re: Car insurance underwriter jobs
 
Just a thought but insurance companies in Canada are standardizing on a single software package, Aviva, RSA, Cooperators, Economical, ICBC, Wawanesa and some others use, or are adopting, the Guidewire suite; ClaimsCenter, PolicyCenter, BillingCenter. If you happened to be familiar with any or all of these products it would be a selling point.

nikki dreaming Sep 23rd 2016 1:26 am

Re: Car insurance underwriter jobs
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 12059345)
Just a thought but insurance companies in Canada are standardizing on a single software package, Aviva, RSA, Cooperators, Economical, ICBC, Wawanesa and some others use, or are adopting, the Guidewire suite; ClaimsCenter, PolicyCenter, BillingCenter. If you happened to be familiar with any or all of these products it would be a selling point.

Good point, we are currently switching to GW claim centre

dbd33 Sep 23rd 2016 1:36 am

Re: Car insurance underwriter jobs
 

Originally Posted by nikki dreaming (Post 12059351)
Good point, we are currently switching to GW claim centre

Oh, I know.

nikki dreaming Nov 4th 2016 9:49 pm

Re: Car insurance underwriter jobs
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 12059354)
Oh, I know.

:p lol just saw your reply above, roll on April 2017!!

dbd33 Nov 4th 2016 10:24 pm

Re: Car insurance underwriter jobs
 

Originally Posted by nikki dreaming (Post 12096116)
:p lol just saw your reply above, roll on April 2017!!

One unit of GW is fine, Claims Centre in particular is easy to use, but once you have multiple lines under GW it quickly becomes very difficult to get anything done and everyone wants their old system back. April 2017 might be good but April 2019 not so much.

nikki dreaming Nov 5th 2016 12:17 am

Re: Car insurance underwriter jobs
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 12096141)
One unit of GW is fine, Claims Centre in particular is easy to use, but once you have multiple lines under GW it quickly becomes very difficult to get anything done and everyone wants their old system back. April 2017 might be good but April 2019 not so much.

Good to know 👍 just claims right now for us ....


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