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Old Jun 30th 2012, 4:44 pm
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Originally Posted by didikai
Your 'They do better fish and chips is Yorkshire' is about as accurate as your percentages.

The unemployment rate is so low because it does not include everyone on Welfare/Social, take a look at that percentage. I am currently in Yorkshire and it has a very high percentage of families on assistance. Also they do a lot of top up here, which keeps the figures low. A person can work 20 hours a week before it touches their benefits/credits. Most of the moms I know are working but they do 20 hours in a grocery shop and not a minute more. With 3 kids under 16 a person gets about 200 pounds a week + 20 hours wages (at what ever wage you can get)

On another note: WE have AWESOME fish and chips in our village!!

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Old Jun 30th 2012, 4:48 pm
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Originally Posted by el_richo
I'm surprised. I though you said it is awes-mazing
It is and i love it! But i am a kept woman, my hubby does pretty well for us. But i can see others struggling. Schools dinners are a tenner a week per kid, and some families really have a hard time with that. I love the UK and all of its craziness...but I am lucky and I get that. Others may not have my circumstances. :-)
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Old Jun 30th 2012, 4:54 pm
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Originally Posted by didikai
Your 'They do better fish and chips is Yorkshire' is about as accurate as your percentages.

I think you'll find the figures are correct as of may 2012.

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Old Jun 30th 2012, 4:55 pm
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Originally Posted by FlyingDutchman6666
Not sure how successful that strategy has been for the UK to get its housing market back to health.

I've lived in South Cambridgeshire for the past 10 years until very recently. Where the general cost of living has gone up tremendously since 2008 (50 pound weekly Tesco shop ballooned to 80/90 pounds, to give just one example), rents in our area have actually *gone down*. So have house prices, but not as much as rents.

As per usual for a house price boom, if you bought a UK house at the top of the market (2006/7/8), there is no way in hell that the rent will even remotely cover the mortgage.
Oh it won't work in the long term. No matter what you do, you can't take $20 out of one pocket and put it in the other and say you've got $40. Debt has to be paid or defaulted eventually... whenever that may be.

Still, my guess for house prices here would be a limited nominal drop and then more or less static for years while inflation catches up.

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Old Jun 30th 2012, 4:56 pm
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Originally Posted by reeni
The unemployment rate is so low because it does not include everyone on Welfare/Social, take a look at that percentage. I am currently in Yorkshire and it has a very high percentage of families on assistance. Also they do a lot of top up here, which keeps the figures low. A person can work 20 hours a week before it touches their benefits/credits. Most of the moms I know are working but they do 20 hours in a grocery shop and not a minute more. With 3 kids under 16 a person gets about 200 pounds a week + 20 hours wages (at what ever wage you can get)

On another note: WE have AWESOME fish and chips in our village!!

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It includes everybody not working and claiming some form of benefit.
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Originally Posted by el_richo
It includes everybody not working and claiming some form of benefit.
Canadian unemployment only contains those on EI doesn't it? So once that runs out, you are no longer counted or something like that - not sure.
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Old Jun 30th 2012, 5:01 pm
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Originally Posted by el_richo
It includes everybody not working and claiming some form of benefit.
Could ya post the link ... I tried to find it and I got lost ....darn interwebs! I went to statistics.co.uk ...got lost there too
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Originally Posted by Alan2005
Canadian unemployment only contains those on EI doesn't it? So once that runs out, you are no longer counted or something like that - not sure.
I thought unemployment in Canada was calculated by asking A sample of Canadians what they did over a certain period. If they werent actively looking for work, they weren't classed as unemployed.

Something like that.
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Originally Posted by el_richo
I thought unemployment in Canada was calculated by asking A sample of Canadians what they did over a certain period. If they werent actively looking for work, they weren't classed as unemployed.

Something like that.
Ah, like in the US.

Anyway - a good economic indicators is food bank usage which has gone up every year I've lived here.
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Originally Posted by Alan2005
Ah, like in the US.
Yep so the canadian figures should look worse than they do I imagine.
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Originally Posted by el_richo
I think you'll find the figures are correct as of may 2012.

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I think you'll find that whatever 'Official' figures are released have been, or can be tweaked to suit.

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From my experience i think Alberta is all but bullet proof for the next few years...compared to other provinces
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Originally Posted by The4BellsLondon
Hopefully the housing market will crash
Yes, let's hope that a lot of people are put in financial peril! What a twerp!
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Originally Posted by YoshiPal2010
Yes, let's hope that a lot of people are put in financial peril! What a twerp!
Why thank you I am referring to the overinflated Van market, so that people on a normal inco£e. Could afford to buy! I am fine with it dropping, even as a. Home owner here - it is way over priced.
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Why thank you I am referring to the overinflated Van market, so that people on a normal inco£e. Could afford to buy! I am fine with it dropping, even as a. Home owner here - it is way over priced.
Yes. How can anyone; even on decent income afford it here? Even those with a family income of $200k will either only be able to buy a shit hole or be paying all their income to banks as interest for the rest of their lives.
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