didikai

That's right it's the Habitual Resident test. It was definitely in place in 2009.

teacher1000

No I don't Accept it at all. Sorry. I just watched a documentary today even called "when I get older" running on bbc. Look into that and then tell me how great it will be.
We will just have to agree to disagree on this one.

christmasoompa

But where does it say you can't qualify for 6 months? My understanding is that you can qualify straight away, as long as you can prove you've moved back permanently?

Rick b

Rubbish, you got this from some of the misquoted statements about NHS that state you must have been resident in the UK for 6 months before receiving treatment. BUT for returning residents of under 5 years there is no such obligation. There are no time limits on education (for children), Job seekers allowance or whatever the vogue term is for it, housing benefit or child benefit. If you are a resident you are eligible.

On the immigration side it is stupid generalisations like this that actually hurt the argument for cuts in immigration as it can so easily disproved.

Rick b

Absolutely correct.

Alan2005

Fair enough. I hope you aren't too shocked when you get your reality check.

ExKiwilass

Nope

pacepeter

Just add a bit more the tax money you pay in helps you and your family not some one who does not want to work, yes I know there is a job shortage and people can not find work as well . There are lots of jobs in Canada but you have to travel. A friend of mine in UK his wife is disabled they pay him care giver her for disabled money for the kids housing benefit also get a new car every 3 years not saying its right or wrong but both do side cash jobs as well

didikai

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I know all about this as I went broke, and went back to England and was refused any benefits for 6 months. I had a social worker who was fighting for me and they would not make any exceptions.

Rick b

Well good for the social worker as thats what should happen in my opinion - but the facts are you would have been applicable for housing benefit, JSA and child benefit (if you had kids). If you had been away for less than 5 years also NHS. Maybe you're the "prat" (ooh what a horrid word, I'm shaking) for not checking it out properly.
My scathing comments towards your post by the way (as you've obviously not got it) were directed at your "all immigrants get all the benefits blah blah" line. Which is just simply not correct. Go back to your bubble.

dbd33

Have you found the fabled means to eat scenery? If not then this can't be true, it's never better to be in abject poverty if the other choice allows eating every day.

didikai

No I wasn't eligible for housing benefit. I had two kids of school age. Got F/A for them. Sorry if you don't like the truth pal. Yes immigrants get it the day they arrive. Sorta pissed me off back then when I'd paid in for years and couldn't get a sausage. Give us the source of all your worldly wisdom. Link would be nice. Can't? Then don't get into a discussion you know F/A about.

Canuck74

Good luck to husband finding a teaching job in Canada. There is a surplus of teachers here. He will have a very difficult time finding a teaching job. By the way Canada's social safety net is crap compared to the UK's.

didikai

Well I'm on ODSP disability.
I rent an apartment in a quiet area two blocks from the lake.
I can walk down to the lake at 11 p.m. at night if I so wish without fear of getting robbed.
My rent is all inclusive, with heat, hot water and hydro. So the only bill I get at the end of the month is my cable / internet.
Adult building. No shit music coming from anywhere. Nice helpful manager.

I was born and grew up in Tottenham London. (If you Google shithole it brings up a picture of Tottenham.)
But if you told me I HAD to move back to Tottenham and see the rest of my days out there, BUT I would get three times the benefits there as I do in Canada, I would put my shotgun in my mouth and say goodnight.

dbd33

I'm not familiar with ODSP disability, presumably it pays a great deal more than welfare or you have another source of income, as it's unlikely that you can rent such a place for $350.

As it goes, I know something of Tottenham, as a kid I went to White Hart Lane most Saturdays. I can see that you might not choose to live there but the fair comparison is not between Tottenham and the bucolic paradise in which you now live but between places where people on welfare might live. Broadwater Farm don't look so terrible compared with Rexdale or the Malvern area of Scarborough.