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Re: Canada Food Guide
Originally Posted by MillieF
(Post 12642220)
No, I’d never heard about it either, but a quick google reveals that the 2019 edition does seem to be causing a kerfufful. It’s rather shockingly telling us to cut back on salts and sugar:ohmy: What brave soul might have suggested that? :lol:
Originally Posted by scilly
(Post 12642551)
I'm surprised to see so many of you saying that you had never heard of the new Food Guide before this.
It was all over the media (print, TV and radio) when it came out a few weeks ago. ...families who don’t know how to cook and never prepare a meal at home. My mother in law will laboriously prepare cabbage leaves for stuffing, browns flour under the grill and other lengthy cooking processes, but will use cake and muffin mixes. She's very much old school, though, and will add a ton of salt and sugar. :( I have managed to get her to cut back. A bit. It’s interesting to note that the obese provinces, of which I am one, are all sitting under many metres of snow and ice for a bloody great period of the year. I defy anyone other than a lumberjack to get a reasonable amount of exercise in on a daily basis The ice has been bad this winter. Worst ever. Snow clearing has been brilliant as usual but there's not much to do about the ice. The walk to the bus stop is just too risky so I've been going grocery shopping by taxi both ways all winter.
Originally Posted by Siouxie
(Post 12642393)
...eating salt, sugar, additives and fat laden foods since they were babies - it's all they know and often all they like - a vicious circle and not an easy thing to break. :)
Originally Posted by peasmold
(Post 12642463)
I see people, especially men under about age 40, with cartloads of juice and soft drinks and not much else.
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Re: Canada Food Guide
Originally Posted by peasmold
(Post 12641948)
The latest version of Canada's Food Guide was issued in January, 20!9...The emphasis in the 2019 version has shifted to plant-based protein rather than meat...Have you read the new Guide?
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Re: Canada Food Guide
Originally Posted by raindropsandroses
(Post 12642525)
I volunteer for our local food bank and it isn't just about having the know how, its also about actually having the appliances to cook from scratch.
An awful lot of people have just a microwave and a kettle to cook with, which makes it very challenging to prepare family meals, especially they have to make do with what the food bank provide :( What I found crushing about poverty was that we didn't have enough money to buy the cheap stuff. Now I go to Costco and buy good things for little money by the pallet. At the butcher pork shoulder is usually $4/lb, when it's on sale I'll buy half a dozen 8lb pieces; that makes the cost per meal of pulled pork very low but we have a car to the butcher, cash flow to finance a bulk purchase and a freezer to put it all in. When there's no money one has to buy small quantities at the local shop and, priced like that, eating sugary rubbish is cheaper. I am hugely amused that "sprouts wrapped in bacon" counts as healthy food on this thread. Maybe I could eat healthily for a week! |
Re: Canada Food Guide
Lordy ............ we were bored silly hearing and seeing the new Guide on radio and TV for about 3 days, not to mention the newspaper!
The only TV we watch is Global news between about 5:30 pm and 7:00 pm (30 minutes National news, rest all local). I do have CBC radio on for much of the day, but it's turned off for good somewhere between 4 and 5 pm. But, for those 3 days, it was expert after expert talking about how good or poor the new Guide was .......... about 50-50 if I remember correctly! Bristol posted ........... I can't say I noticed anything this time but, yes, it gets a regular mention in our local newspaper which I have delivered every day - except Sunday when it's not published for some odd reason. See, there's a reason to still read real newspapers. The Province was originally a morning paper, The Sun the evening paper ....... which is why we chose to subscribe to The Sun. Saturday's Sun was always called The Sunday Sun, even though it came out on Saturday evening and never on a Sunday! They have both been morning papers for many years ................ but The Province is not published on a Saturday and The Sun is not published on a Sunday Just the weird and wonderful way in which publishing newspapers has evolved, methinks! :nod: |
Re: Canada Food Guide
Originally Posted by dbd33
(Post 12642603)
Baked potatoes are something one can create in a microwave (the only thing I use it for). Stick butter, cheese and scallions on them and it's a passably healthy, cheap meal. Dull every day, of course, but being poor is dull.
What I found crushing about poverty was that we didn't have enough money to buy the cheap stuff. Now I go to Costco and buy good things for little money by the pallet. At the butcher pork shoulder is usually $4/lb, when it's on sale I'll buy half a dozen 8lb pieces; that makes the cost per meal of pulled pork very low but we have a car to the butcher, cash flow to finance a bulk purchase and a freezer to put it all in. When there's no money one has to buy small quantities at the local shop and, priced like that, eating sugary rubbish is cheaper. I am hugely amused that "sprouts wrapped in bacon" counts as healthy food on this thread. Maybe I could eat healthily for a week! Yes, life is much better when you have a few extra dollars to spend on food ................ our Safeway/Sobeys will often have "family sized pork tenderloin" on special, 3 big tenderloins packaged together. We've found ½ of one of those tenderloins can be roasted and do us two meals ........... so the family pack gives us 12 meals altogether, for a cost of around $3 per meal. A few months ago, they had full beef tenderloin on special ........ I didn't know until OH brought one home just HOW big that was. It cost $30, instead of close to $80, he cut it into 5 roasts of varying sizes, and again, we worked out that we would get at least 12 meals for around $3. BUT you do have to have those extra $$$ to be able to that ......... as well as freezer space in which to keep them. It's no good if you're living in one room, or a very small place, with little or no fridge or freezer. |
Re: Canada Food Guide
Originally Posted by scilly
(Post 12642618)
Yes, life is much better when you have a few extra dollars to spend on food .
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Re: Canada Food Guide
Originally Posted by raindropsandroses
(Post 12642520)
Speak for yourself lol, we love winter sports! We were out with Mini Raindrop's XC skiing group today and it was fantastic in the sunshine.
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Re: Canada Food Guide
[QUOTE=MillieF;12642917]...I hope I fall under the snow plough before the dreadful necessity of mall walking /QUOTE]
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...b835d3fa8f.jpg https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...e7d674d04f.jpg You may want to re-think that... this guy got stuck right under the blade but he survived - didn't even make the news. |
Re: Canada Food Guide
Originally Posted by MillieF
(Post 12642917)
I too love these ‘outings’, nothing better! - but they are an arranged thing, and a fee is involved and equipment...which is often beyond the struggling family who have no idea how to feed their family a nutrional meal on a budget. More often than not, people simply do not have the budget for nutritional food. As dbd mentioned, it's often just beyond their means. Not to mention that a lot of families really do just have a kettle and a microwave, no fridge, no freezer and no way of storing anything other than long life or canned foods. ​​​​​ |
Re: Canada Food Guide
There is also the matter that when you get to those depths of poverty, any ideas of nutritional food go out of the window, and it becomes a case of just trying to get enough food each day. Quantity not quality.
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Re: Canada Food Guide
Microwave rice / veg steamers are pretty good, I used one for years when I lived in Hong Kong and the UK. I have a white one with a lockable lid and a steamer basket inside - but Walmart sell lots of different ones https://www.walmart.com/ip/Microwave...oker/146535456 .. (tupperware too I think?) You can steam veg and pasta in them as well. I've managed with a convection microwave and a 2 burner ring/hob before, microwave and kettle only would be more difficult. Rice and pasta are great filler ups.. lentil / bean curries can be made in a microwave as well.. plenty of protein and simple to make.. they often discount black / white / navy / kidney beans and chickpeas to under $1 a large can too. chuck in a few veggies towards the end of the cooking, serve it with rice, you have a meal that is filling, cheap and nutritious... or make it into a chilli with the addition of a small amount of ground meat or chopped mushrooms... mash beans and add them to a basic tomato sauce for serving with pasta, perhaps grate a bit of cheese on top, serve it with a side salad and a chunk of bread. Even cheaper would be to buy dried beans/lentils/peas and rehydrate in the microwave before using.
You can get microwave saucepans if needed as well :D Kraft and a few other companies have microwave recipes Saucy Microwave Fish Supper Recipe - Kraft Canada KRAFT Broccoli-Rice Casserole Recipe - Kraft Canada https://www.eggs.ca/recipes/cat/36/microwave-recipes https://www.foodnetwork.ca/everyday-...Breakfast-Wrap https://chooseveg.com/blog/6-mouthwa...ake-microwave/ https://epicure.com/en-ca/search?sea...rowave+steamer https://www.geniuskitchen.com/recipe...crowave-176071 https://www.tarladalal.com/Singapore...Recipes)-4902r https://www.bbcgoodfood.com/howto/gu...without-cooker http://college.biggirlssmallkitchen....microwave.html http://college.biggirlssmallkitchen....microwave.html Recipe book: https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B000GP7YMG/ref=tmm_other_meta_binding_used_olp_sr?ie=UTF8&condition=used&qid=&sr= There's tons of microwave recipes online, perhaps print some off? https://www.google.ca/search?q=micro...w=1476&bih=699 Curry recipes in a microwave https://www.google.ca/search?q=curry...w=1476&bih=699 |
Re: Canada Food Guide
Thanks Siouxie, I've saved the links :thumb:
We have been putting together printed off recipe sheets, but thought it would be nice to include a book for everyone. I have managed to find a recipe for bread, and gluten free bread done solely in the microwave, and they aren't at all bad. I even found and tested a microwave birthday cake recipe, which isn't perfect but isn't too bad. |
Re: Canada Food Guide
Originally Posted by raindropsandroses
(Post 12643045)
Thanks Siouxie, I've saved the links :thumb:
We have been putting together printed off recipe sheets, but thought it would be nice to include a book for everyone. I have managed to find a recipe for bread, and gluten free bread done solely in the microwave, and they aren't at all bad. I even found and tested a microwave birthday cake recipe, which isn't perfect but isn't too bad. I've made cakes and puddings in the microwave for years (remember syrup sponge and custard?). If you ever get those 'pudding' packets (like an instant whip powder) you can put them into a cup or bowl and pour boiling water in instead of cold milk and stir briskly and it makes a great chocolate sauce to put on top of the eggless chocolate sponge cake :D I used to buy the cheapest sponge mix I could find, to 1/3rd of a pack I would add a dessert spoon of oil plus enough cold water to make it runny'ish' instead of an egg and marg and then microwave it for about a minute (until the top is 'set') and it makes a great moist "sticky" chocolate cake like pudding (dessert) to pour that chocolate sauce over :D You can do the same with a basic sponge mix and a spoon of golden syrup on top, together with 'instant' custard. Maybe not the healthiest, but great on a cold day when you really want something yummy and warm :D This might be of use to you https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cookbo...rowave_Cooking |
Re: Canada Food Guide
I buy a lot of dried goods such as gluten-free flour, quinoa, nuts, lentils, split peas and various beans at The Bulk Barn. Apart from soup, you can make lentil loaf - a very tasty kind of "meat" loaf. Mushy cooked lentils can be made into good veggie burgers with finely chopped onion and carrot and chipotle or whatever other spices you like. We grow quite a bit of our own vegetables here on the BC coast but if you just have a balcony or a patio you can grow a lot of stuff in pots.Vesey's have seed for short patio tomatoes and Richter's have patio pea seed.. If you don't even have a sunny window ledge, you can sprout seeds such as peas, green lentils, red clover, alfalfa and mung beans.All you need is a jar and a bit of mesh fabric. Best source for sprouting seeds is West Coast Seeds but don't buy their adzuki beans- they don't sprout- and their mixed seed packages are expensive.Kitchen tools for a small space - a hand held blender (about $20 at London Drugs) and a small electric chopper for vegetables, nuts and things such as sunflower or pumpkin seeds.One of the most useful things I have is a set of vacuum boxes and vacuum bags I bought at Home Hardware. The store doesn't have the boxes any more but the reusable bags which come with a small pump make a big difference to the length you can keep vegetables.
Interesting that the government, having urged us to eat more plant-based protein, is now promising to do more to advertise beef, having no doubt, with a federal election looming, heard the outraged shouts of cattle farmers. |
Re: Canada Food Guide
Originally Posted by peasmold
(Post 12643122)
I buy a lot of dried goods such as gluten-free flour, quinoa, nuts, lentils, split peas and various beans at The Bulk Barn. Apart from soup, you can make lentil loaf - a very tasty kind of "meat" loaf. Mushy cooked lentils can be made into good veggie burgers with finely chopped onion and carrot and chipotle or whatever other spices you like. We grow quite a bit of our own vegetables here on the BC coast but if you just have a balcony or a patio you can grow a lot of stuff in pots.Vesey's have seed for short patio tomatoes and Richter's have patio pea seed.. If you don't even have a sunny window ledge, you can sprout seeds such as peas, green lentils, red clover, alfalfa and mung beans.All you need is a jar and a bit of mesh fabric. Best source for sprouting seeds is West Coast Seeds but don't buy their adzuki beans- they don't sprout- and their mixed seed packages are expensive.Kitchen tools for a small space - a hand held blender (about $20 at London Drugs) and a small electric chopper for vegetables, nuts and things such as sunflower or pumpkin seeds.One of the most useful things I have is a set of vacuum boxes and vacuum bags I bought at Home Hardware. The store doesn't have the boxes any more but the reusable bags which come with a small pump make a big difference to the length you can keep vegetables.
Interesting that the government, having urged us to eat more plant-based protein, is now promising to do more to advertise beef, having no doubt, with a federal election looming, heard the outraged shouts of cattle farmers. Interesting to know, thanks! Would you care to share your recipes for the 'lentil loaf and burger' ? I buy dried pulses and lentils as well as garbanzo.. and I eat a lot of couscous and quinoa. I used to have some excellent yellow lentil and other dhal curry recipes, if only I could find them! Do you mean this kind of thing vaccuum boxes? https://www.amazon.ca/Ozeri-INSTAVAC-Storage-Container-BPA-Fee/dp/B00JM3VFVE/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_79_t_2?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=MPVNEQCMSZ870D2DHPCF https://www.amazon.ca/SealIn-Nestable-Storage-Vacuum-Containers/dp/B01BLSQ6TIhttps://www.bedbathandbeyond.ca/1/1/...aque-teal.html I grow my own veggies too :) |
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