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Kittykerr Jun 14th 2007 2:27 am

Canada border services agency?
 
hello all.
im a uk police officer and canadian PR and im moving back to canada as soon as my house sells. im part way through the calgary police application. however ive decided i just want to be back in canada ASAP so im going back and staying even tho i havnt got the job yet.

so im was thinking of applying for the CBSA to fill in time between me arriving and hopefully eventually starting with the calgary police.
does anyone on here work for them? whats it like? i quite fancy working at calgary airport. and seems like a good job that i could enjoy for as long as it takes for me to get in the police there. maybe even longer.

ta
scott (on cara's log in)

Notiaink...honest Jun 14th 2007 2:31 am

Re: Canada border services agency?
 

Originally Posted by Kittykerr (Post 4913571)
hello all.
im a uk police officer and canadian PR and im moving back to canada as soon as my house sells. im part way through the calgary police application. however ive decided i just want to be back in canada ASAP so im going back and staying even tho i havnt got the job yet.

so im was thinking of applying for the CBSA to fill in time between me arriving and hopefully eventually starting with the calgary police.
does anyone on here work for them? whats it like? i quite fancy working at calgary airport. and seems like a good job that i could enjoy for as long as it takes for me to get in the police there. maybe even longer.

ta
scott (on cara's log in)


I dont know for sure, but federal government / agency jobs are more often than not "citizen prefered", so without Canadian citzenship you might be "SOL"

Kittykerr Jun 14th 2007 2:55 am

Re: Canada border services agency?
 

Originally Posted by Notiaink...honest (Post 4913587)
I dont know for sure, but federal government / agency jobs are more often than not "citizen prefered", so without Canadian citzenship you might be "SOL"

it says citizen or PR eligable to apply.
whats SOL?

Notiaink...honest Jun 14th 2007 2:57 am

Re: Canada border services agency?
 

Originally Posted by Kittykerr (Post 4913723)
it says citizen or PR eligable to apply.
whats SOL?

Shit Outta Luck

Most government jobs say that, but in practice it Citizens who get the jobs. A big deal was made of all the government jobs that were now an option when I was sworn in. Dont know if its still the same. I guess it doesnt hurt to ask.

Souvenir Jun 14th 2007 3:11 am

Re: Canada border services agency?
 

Originally Posted by Notiaink...honest (Post 4913736)
Shit Outta Luck

Most government jobs say that, but in practice it Citizens who get the jobs. A big deal was made of all the government jobs that were now an option when I was sworn in. Dont know if its still the same. I guess it doesnt hurt to ask.

We've been over this before. It is very, very, very difficult to get a job with the Federal government if you're not a Canadian citizen.

Batfink Jun 14th 2007 7:48 pm

Re: Canada border services agency?
 
My husband is trying to join the Fredericton Police Force but we have just been told that only Canadian Citizens can apply. This is extremely frustrating as most of Canada's other Police Forces take PR's. Why not one rule for all Police Forces....??? Grrrrrrrrr:frown:

Rant over - just disappointed :o

Souvenir Jun 14th 2007 11:07 pm

Re: Canada border services agency?
 

Originally Posted by Batfink (Post 4917324)
My husband is trying to join the Fredericton Police Force but we have just been told that only Canadian Citizens can apply. This is extremely frustrating as most of Canada's other Police Forces take PR's. Why not one rule for all Police Forces....??? Grrrrrrrrr:frown:

Rant over - just disappointed :o

I'm prepared to bet that police officers in NB must also be fully bilingual.

Batfink Jun 14th 2007 11:50 pm

Re: Canada border services agency?
 
I don't think so - but don't quote me on that. i hadn't noticed anything on the website to stipulate that - but i'm off right now to find out!

Thanks for pointing that out Souvenir, it's something that I completely overlooked!;)

Souvenir Jun 14th 2007 11:58 pm

Re: Canada border services agency?
 

Originally Posted by Batfink (Post 4917991)
I don't think so - but don't quote me on that. i hadn't noticed anything on the website to stipulate that - but i'm off right now to find out!

Thanks for pointing that out Souvenir, it's something that I completely overlooked!;)

Don't take it as gospel. Fredericton is 75% anglophone but under NB law residents can deal with government in either English or French. Not being able to speak French, and I'm talking NB French, is bound to be an issue.

Batfink Jun 15th 2007 12:06 am

Re: Canada border services agency?
 
Is NB French different than canadian french (which i beleive is also different from French French!!!)

I've just re-read the Police Website which does not stipulate that you need to speak French, neither does the admission requirements for the Atlantic Police Academy. I am in contact with a member of the Police Force over there so will ask him when we next 'speak'.

I'm like a little terrier when i get hold of an idea - just won't let it go until i get an answer!!!! Will keep you informed:thumbup:

Souvenir Jun 15th 2007 12:21 am

Re: Canada border services agency?
 

Originally Posted by Batfink (Post 4918058)
Is NB French different than canadian french (which i beleive is also different from French French!!!)

I've just re-read the Police Website which does not stipulate that you need to speak French, neither does the admission requirements for the Atlantic Police Academy. I am in contact with a member of the Police Force over there so will ask him when we next 'speak'.

I'm like a little terrier when i get hold of an idea - just won't let it go until i get an answer!!!! Will keep you informed:thumbup:

Canadian French is rather different to French French. We quite often watch a news progamme from France. I find it much easier to understand than Quebec French.

Canadian French also differs widely according to location, particularly the accent (just like in the UK). Souvette is a bilingual francophone from Montreal. She has a hell of a job understanding many Brit accents and she doesn't do much better with the NB Acadian accent.

dbd33 Jun 15th 2007 12:27 am

Re: Canada border services agency?
 

Originally Posted by Souvenir (Post 4918111)
She has a hell of a job understanding many Brit accents and she doesn't do much better with the NB Acadian accent.

My ex, as Souvenir knows, is a Swiss francophone. In NB she speaks to the francophones in English as it's easier than trying to fathom their French.

Souvenir Jun 15th 2007 12:37 am

Re: Canada border services agency?
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 4918125)
My ex, as Souvenir knows, is a Swiss francophone. In NB she speaks to the francophones in English as it's easier than trying to fathom their French.

Ottawa Valley French is a bugger, too.

KJT Jun 15th 2007 2:59 am

Re: Canada border services agency?
 
I was a Copper in the UK for 10yrs, I have lived in Canada for a couple of years now. I once applied to the CBSA, I spoke to a recruiter who told me that a PR can apply, but preference will always be given to a Canadian. So basically forget it for now!

I just got accepted by the Campus Police at my local University. I will be off to Guelph in a week for my Police Cyclist course!!!

Anyway looking forward to getting back into policing again here. Should be more fun than my Production Manager job...

All the best!

Novocastrian Jun 15th 2007 3:06 am

Re: Canada border services agency?
 

Originally Posted by KJT (Post 4918686)
I just got accepted by the Campus Police at my local University. I will be off to Guelph in a week for my Police Cyclist course!!!

Anyway looking forward to getting back into policing again here. Should be more fun than my Production Manager job...

All the best!

Just about the perfect job that. Never anything to do at all. The only job I know of which beats it for lack of accountability is a university professor.

dingbat Jun 15th 2007 4:08 am

Re: Canada border services agency?
 

Originally Posted by Kittykerr (Post 4913571)
hello all.
im a uk police officer and canadian PR and im moving back to canada as soon as my house sells. im part way through the calgary police application. however ive decided i just want to be back in canada ASAP so im going back and staying even tho i havnt got the job yet.

so im was thinking of applying for the CBSA to fill in time between me arriving and hopefully eventually starting with the calgary police.
does anyone on here work for them? whats it like? i quite fancy working at calgary airport. and seems like a good job that i could enjoy for as long as it takes for me to get in the police there. maybe even longer.

ta
scott (on cara's log in)

No chance unless you are a citizen. They run open competitions for the CBSA jobs and most posts require citizenship and a [Canadian] degree plus relevant experience, just to get through the sift. These are coveted jobs - not a whole lot to do, relatively good pay and security plus benefts. The entry exam is OK if you are reasonably well educated - O/A level maths, English and good recall. Nepotism is rife as well, so don't hold your breath.

hot wasabi peas Jun 15th 2007 5:58 am

Re: Canada border services agency?
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 4918125)
My ex, as Souvenir knows, is a Swiss francophone. In NB she speaks to the francophones in English as it's easier than trying to fathom their French.

Strange. An ex of mine is Acadian and when he and I were hitching through Quebec, Quebecers who picked us up commented that my ex's French was very good, for a German. :confused:

Helen Parnell Jun 26th 2007 1:09 am

Re: Canada border services agency?
 

Originally Posted by Kittykerr (Post 4913571)
hello all.
im a uk police officer and canadian PR and im moving back to canada as soon as my house sells. im part way through the calgary police application. however ive decided i just want to be back in canada ASAP so im going back and staying even tho i havnt got the job yet.

so im was thinking of applying for the CBSA to fill in time between me arriving and hopefully eventually starting with the calgary police.
does anyone on here work for them? whats it like? i quite fancy working at calgary airport. and seems like a good job that i could enjoy for as long as it takes for me to get in the police there. maybe even longer.

ta
scott (on cara's log in)


Rather than CBSA have you thought to the prision service. If it is only short term, you could probably suck it up and you have the advantage of getting to know the local criminals.

Notiaink...honest Jun 26th 2007 1:14 am

Re: Canada border services agency?
 

Originally Posted by Helen Parnell (Post 4971056)
Rather than CBSA have you thought to the prision service. If it is only short term, you could probably suck it up and you have the advantage of getting to know the local criminals.

Also a federal employer, so likely to face much the same problems re citizenship?

Helen Parnell Jun 26th 2007 1:52 am

Re: Canada border services agency?
 

Originally Posted by Notiaink...honest (Post 4971085)
Also a federal employer, so likely to face much the same problems re citizenship?


Sorry to argue, but my friend had no problem getting a job and had only been in the country 6 months! The prision service in Calgary is Provincial run, so may be that was why he got in.

Kittykerr Jun 26th 2007 2:02 am

Re: Canada border services agency?
 

Originally Posted by Helen Parnell (Post 4971270)
Sorry to argue, but my friend had no problem getting a job and had only been in the country 6 months! The prision service in Calgary is Provincial run, so may be that was why he got in.

and second to that they must employ some people in the CBSA even if not citizens. as they have to be open and representive of the whole of canada. so i cant see how they would be so dismissive of non citizens. also it seems they are desperate for lots of new employees. so if im more than qualified im sure its worth a shot.

Notiaink...honest Jun 26th 2007 2:13 am

Re: Canada border services agency?
 
I guess it depends on the local employment market conditions. Workers of all kind are in short supply in alberta, so if there are no citizens who want to work on a government payscale, then PRs will be next on the list.

Kittykerr Jun 26th 2007 2:27 am

Re: Canada border services agency?
 

Originally Posted by Notiaink...honest (Post 4971346)
I guess it depends on the local employment market conditions. Workers of all kind are in short supply in alberta, so if there are no citizens who want to work on a government payscale, then PRs will be next on the list.

yeh i can see a few thinking that cos the pay isnt great for the CBSA. id get $25k more with the police there.

im going to give it a shot.


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