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Canada or Australia
Hi,
Having lived in Queensland-Australia as a British expatriate for three years, my husband and I decided to return to Blighty. What a shocker! Either our perspective of Britain had changed in that time, or we were affected by the short supply of vitamin D. Anyhow, we are now thinking of either returning to Australia, but we are both half-hearted about it and wonder whether we should consider Canada. Any expatriates who have either moved from Britain and/Australia to Canada, who could shed some light on Canadian: 1. Cost of purchasing property, size and types of property; 2. food and living expenses; 3. car purchase; 3. primary, secondary and university standards compared with UK; 4. jobs - process, holiday, remuneration, attitude to work, jobs for doctors, television industry, the kind of jobs available; 4. standard of healthcare, and comparison with UK and Australia; 5. taxes; 6. weather - best place in Canada in terms of climate; 7. living - best place to live in terms of schools, social life, demographic, sport (ie not just football, other sports), metropolitan; cosmopolitan; 8. customer service; 9. travelling - public transport compared with UK and Australia; 10. overall impression of Canadians as people compared with the British and Australians - sense of humour and attitudes to life and work. Thanks, Pingpongdong:thumbsup: |
Re: Canada or Australia
Hi, and welcome to BE.
This Wiki article may help - http://britishexpats.com/wiki/Canada_versus_Australia Unfortunately, most of the questions you are asking are just too general as the answers will vary massively depending on the province. Canada is such a huge country, and each province is like a mini country with a different tax rate, healthcare system, laws, etc. If you can be a bit more specific then hopefully those in the relevant province/city/town can help. Meanwhile, a search of the Wiki will give you the answers to many of those questions, as will a search of the forum. And of course, the first step need to be to make sure you are eligible for a visa in the first place, so have a look at the CIC website to be sure you would be able to move to Canada. Good luck. |
Re: Canada or Australia
Thanks, Christmasoompa,
Thanks for the link, although I am looking for a more personal perspective. The questions are targeted at those who have experience in any of the listed questions 1-10. So, it's for those who have moved to Canada from UK, or Australia and have any knowledge or experience relevant to any of the queries in 1-10. It doesn't matter which state, I appreciate each state will have its own process/procedure. Any personal experience shared would be very helpful. Thanks, Pingpongdong |
Re: Canada or Australia
Originally Posted by Pingpongdong
(Post 10463467)
Thanks, Christmasoompa,
Thanks for the link, although I am looking for a more personal perspective. Why should anyone else's personal perspective be relevant? You're really not planning to take a decision on that basis, are you? If you want some meaningful comments, perhaps tell us what you hope to find in Canada that you obviously didn't find in Australia. |
Re: Canada or Australia
About 6 of these questions can be answered by simply using google;);):thumbup: read over questions on the forum you will find the rest of the answers you need:thumbsup:
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Re: Canada or Australia
Originally Posted by Pingpongdong
(Post 10463444)
Hi,
Having lived in Queensland-Australia as a British expatriate for three years, my husband and I decided to return to Blighty. What a shocker! Either our perspective of Britain had changed in that time, or we were affected by the short supply of vitamin D. Anyhow, we are now thinking of either returning to Australia, but we are both half-hearted about it and wonder whether we should consider Canada. Any expatriates who have either moved from Britain and/Australia to Canada, who could shed some light on Canadian: 1. Cost of purchasing property, size and types of property; Anything from $100,000 to $10,000,000. Square footages range from 100 sq ft to 10,000 sq ft. They have bungalows, 2 storeys, townhouses, condominiums, log cabin, etc. 2. food and living expenses; You can spend as much as you wish to 3. car purchase; They sell minis, sedans, trucks - lots to choose from, all at various prices 3. primary, secondary and university standards compared with UK; Generally the same 4. jobs - process, holiday, remuneration, attitude to work, jobs for doctors, television industry, the kind of jobs available; Some find it easy, some find it difficult. It depends where in Canada you intend to live 4. standard of healthcare, and comparison with UK and Australia; Generally the same 5. taxes; This is Province dependent 6. weather - best place in Canada in terms of climate; The Arctic, if you like that sort of thing, the interior of BC if you like that type of thing, Toronto if you like that type of thing 7. living - best place to live in terms of schools, social life, demographic, sport (ie not just football, other sports), metropolitan; cosmopolitan; The Arctic, if you like that sort of thing, the interior of BC if you like that type of thing, Toronto if you like that type of thing 8. customer service; It can be good; it can be bad 9. travelling - public transport compared with UK and Australia; Nothing like the UK, I have no idea about Australia 10. overall impression of Canadians as people compared with the British and Australians - sense of humour and attitudes to life and work. Some are similar to some Britains, some are very different to some Britains. How do you think, for example, a steelworker in Aberdeen compares to a stockbroker in the City of London? Thanks, Pingpongdong:thumbsup: |
Re: Canada or Australia
Originally Posted by Almost Canadian
(Post 10463748)
There you go, hope this helps:thumbsup:
Seriously, OP. Try the wiki, lots of us (real people with personal experience of Canada) have contributed to it. Otherwise Almost Canadian's post nailed it. |
Re: Canada or Australia
Originally Posted by Pingpongdong
(Post 10463467)
Thanks, Christmasoompa,
Thanks for the link, although I am looking for a more personal perspective. The questions are targeted at those who have experience in any of the listed questions 1-10. So, it's for those who have moved to Canada from UK, or Australia and have any knowledge or experience relevant to any of the queries in 1-10. It doesn't matter which state, I appreciate each state will have its own process/procedure. Any personal experience shared would be very helpful. Thanks, Pingpongdong |
Re: Canada or Australia
Originally Posted by ExKiwilass
(Post 10463943)
It's provinces not states.
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Re: Canada or Australia
Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian
(Post 10463951)
Dont forget the Territories :lol: Yukon, NWT and Nunavut;)
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Re: Canada or Australia
Having lived in Queensland-Australia as a British expatriate for three years, my husband and I decided to return to Blighty. What a shocker! Either our perspective of Britain had changed in that time, or we were affected by the short supply of vitamin D. Anyhow, we are now thinking of either returning to Australia, but we are both half-hearted about it and wonder whether we should consider Canada
What is it that the UK has not got now, after the urge to move back? |
Re: Canada or Australia
Originally Posted by Pingpongdong
(Post 10463444)
Hi,
Having lived in Queensland-Australia as a British expatriate for three years, my husband and I decided to return to Blighty. What a shocker! Either our perspective of Britain had changed in that time, or we were affected by the short supply of vitamin D. Anyhow, we are now thinking of either returning to Australia, but we are both half-hearted about it and wonder whether we should consider Canada. Any expatriates who have either moved from Britain and/Australia to Canada, who could shed some light on Canadian: 1. Cost of purchasing property, size and types of property; 2. food and living expenses; 3. car purchase; 3. primary, secondary and university standards compared with UK; 4. jobs - process, holiday, remuneration, attitude to work, jobs for doctors, television industry, the kind of jobs available; 4. standard of healthcare, and comparison with UK and Australia; 5. taxes; 6. weather - best place in Canada in terms of climate; 7. living - best place to live in terms of schools, social life, demographic, sport (ie not just football, other sports), metropolitan; cosmopolitan; 8. customer service; 9. travelling - public transport compared with UK and Australia; 10. overall impression of Canadians as people compared with the British and Australians - sense of humour and attitudes to life and work. Thanks, Pingpongdong:thumbsup: Expats returning home often overlook something that they probably did when they left the UK in the first place - a recce trip. This is more important the longer you have been away from the UK so it probably didn't even occur to you since you were away for "only" 3 years. Did you visit the UK at all during your 3 years away? You're probably also correct in your suspicion that your perspective on life has changed. That's only natural - after all, gaining a new perspective on life is often one of the reasons expats give for moving abroad in the first place. Moving overseas again could be a big and costly leap of faith. Firstly, I would seriously consider what it is about the UK that you are having problems with and determine whether you can tolerate them - maybe even consider moving to another part of the UK. Being "half-hearted" about a return to Australia does not sound like a recipe for success. If you are serious about Canada, I would suggest a recce trip. |
Re: Canada or Australia
Originally Posted by Almost Canadian
(Post 10463748)
There you go, hope this helps:thumbsup:
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Re: Canada or Australia
No sharks, crocs, spiders and snakes trying to kill you here. Just bears.
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Re: Canada or Australia
If you like the hot weather and cricket, Australia, if you like the freezing cold and don't like cricket, Canada.
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Re: Canada or Australia
I spent a year in Oz as a backpacker. Loved it, would have stayed if I could, and still long to go back.
I have never regretted moving from UK to Canada, but would have chosen Oz if given the option. Having said that, I didn't have a real job/ house/family/responsibilities in Oz - maybe that's why I had such a good time there:rofl: What makes you "half-hearted" about returning to Australia, anything you can put your finger on? |
Re: Canada or Australia
Hi,
I spent many years eating mostly Coleman's and then spent three years in Tabasco. Then I went home to Coleman's and found it had changed for the worse in so many ways. We're desperate for a better life but are torn between Red Sauce or Brown. I've read the wiki and looked at the government sites but I prefer people's personal experience. Which will make me more satisfied? Which has the best schools? |
Re: Canada or Australia
Originally Posted by Atlantic Xpat
(Post 10464259)
It's early days yet, but that's post of the year so far.;)
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Re: Canada or Australia
Originally Posted by Novocastrian
(Post 10464658)
Hi,
I spent many years eating mostly Coleman's and then spent three years in Tabasco. Then I went home to Coleman's and found it had changed for the worse in so many ways. We're desperate for a better life but are torn between Red Sauce or Brown. I've read the wiki and looked at the government sites but I prefer people's personal experience. Which will make me more satisfied? Which has the best schools? |
Re: Canada or Australia
Originally Posted by magnumpi
(Post 10464700)
Move to Franks Red Hot Sauce, i put that shit on everything
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Re: Canada or Australia
Originally Posted by magnumpi
(Post 10464700)
Move to Franks Red Hot Sauce, i put that shit on everything
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Re: Canada or Australia
Originally Posted by Alan2005
(Post 10464717)
What happened to all your videos?
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Re: Canada or Australia
the modern aussie accent is incredibly annoying
wataah i believe it has evolved from the convict days - but sounds a lot different from even 30/40 years back check out some 'Skippy' re-runs... |
Re: Canada or Australia
When I see people post questions like this, it's obvious to me that they're probably not going to like Canada. Most people who move to Canada and really like it have come to the conclusion through thorough research that there is something about it that appeals to them. You've got to have some decent reason, if you just have some casual reason the weather will put you off very rapidly.
What I would say is that Canada is a bit more connected to the rest of the world than Australia is, because of its proximity to the US. We have Amazon, oooh. Maybe I misread it (I didn't study it in great depth) but there's a thread on here where some couple actually got immigrant visas, moved to Ottawa (the main reason being that it is the capital and in most European countries the capital is the main city, which isn't the case in North America, except maybe Mexico) decided after a couple of weeks they didn't like it and left. Duh. |
Re: Canada or Australia
Originally Posted by Steve_
(Post 10464805)
if you just have some casual reason the weather will put you off very rapidly.
I actually got immigrant visas, moved to Ottawa (the main reason being that it is the capital and in most European countries the capital is the main city, which isn't the case in North America, except maybe Mexico) decided after a couple of weeks they didn't like it and left. Duh. |
Re: Canada or Australia
Originally Posted by Pingpongdong
(Post 10463444)
Hi,
Having lived in Queensland-Australia as a British expatriate for three years, my husband and I decided to return to Blighty. What a shocker! Either our perspective of Britain had changed in that time, or we were affected by the short supply of vitamin D. Anyhow, we are now thinking of either returning to Australia, but we are both half-hearted about it and wonder whether we should consider Canada. <snip> Although Canada fits the "not Britain" requirement it's not clear what you're looking for. Once you have gone through the process of finding the answers to the questions you listed you'll be in a better position to make the decision but using a short cut of getting all the answers from people on here is unlikely to really leave you much better informed. |
Re: Canada or Australia
Originally Posted by JimboV6
(Post 10464644)
I spent a year in Oz as a backpacker. Loved it, would have stayed if I could, and still long to go back.
I have never regretted moving from UK to Canada, but would have chosen Oz if given the option. Having said that, I didn't have a real job/ house/family/responsibilities in Oz - maybe that's why I had such a good time there:rofl: What makes you "half-hearted" about returning to Australia, anything you can put your finger on? |
Re: Canada or Australia
Originally Posted by ectomorph
(Post 10476584)
As an expat brit, i lived in Canada for 4 years before moving to Queensland Australia. Been here for 6 years now and seriously thinking of moving back to Canada.
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Re: Canada or Australia
Originally Posted by Oink
(Post 10464637)
If you like the hot weather and cricket, Australia, if you like the freezing cold and don't like cricket, Canada.
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Re: Canada or Australia
Originally Posted by MillieF
(Post 10476826)
What if you don't like the cold but don't like the cricket either?
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