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Hi,

Canada(BC) is a destination to which I have for many years had a ambition of moving too.I am very fortunate to have a BC pnp nomination but !
I also have a chance of moving to Australia and have been comparing employment conditions.What a difference!!
Four weeks vacation with 17% loading plus ten public days,Eight days per annum sick leave(can be forwarded to next year),Employer pays 9% into pension,long service leave equating to thirteen weeks paid leave after fifteen years,38 hour working week.Also having three children the family allowance is VERY generous.
Perhaps there are things I do not know about working in Canada so please enlighten me.I just can`t imagine the conditions being so far behind.


Thanks

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Peeps should just move to where they feel happiest. Nobody needs to 'sell' Canada to you.

Rich.

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Exactly. Well said Rich ;)

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I really think it's up to you, the advantages I see from Canada is that is closer to everywhere (UK, US, etc) so it's easier to travel, have you been in Vancouver? it is really beautiful, I loved it !!

Not sure about Australia but I believe there are more work opportunities in Canada, lots of companies I know have nothing or very little branches in Australia, while they have good opportunities in Canada, again it depends on what you do

Another advantage of Canada is that once you become a citizen it is much easier to work in the US !! All canadians I know have had opportunities there

Unfortunately vacation time in canada is shorter, minimun two weeks (depends on the company, I have almost three but my company has a lot of shut downs so it compensates) However as you progress in your career it gets better (my boss has about 5 weeks vacation)

Work life balance, working hours are good in Canada, people usually don't work wild hours or stay late (later I've stayed in my job is 6 p.m.)

So again it is up to you, for me they are almost the same quality of life, but I chose Canada because it was easier to qualify in my case

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I am not asking you to sell Canada to me, I am asking what are the working conditions.
If you don`t know what`s the problem!

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Masiosare gave you a good answer. Working conditions do vary from employer to employer. You need to check out the conditions you are being offered and then decide if it enough for you. 2 weeks is the minimum but many get more, ..... but not usually anything like the amount of leave you are describing in Oz!

ps. If you don't like a response it is probably best to ignore it, and not take it personally, or it quickly develops into a slanging match here. That is the nature of "discussion boards" :huh:

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ps. If you don't like a response it is probably best to ignore it, and not take it personally, or it quickly develops into a slanging match here. That is the nature of "discussion boards" :huh:[/QUOTE]


I take your point.

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This subject comes up from time to time here, and if it important to you to be able to (eg) visit family in the UK every year and still have vacation time left to explore your new country and environs, then it might well be a deciding factor for you.
There is a public holiday almost every month though, so long weekends come around fairly frequently.

I am rethinking my own options atm, as I work M-F and have 3 weeks off after a qualifying period .... though I must say my employers gave me "family leave" and "personal time" (unexpected!) recently when my son was sick.
OH often works all weekend and I am feeling we are not getting the time together we need.

I am trying to gather my nerves to work privately which would mean (potentially) mucho more $ and fexibilty ..... but what if it don't take off???!!!! :ohmy:

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Wouldn't consider Australia, too many spiders and stuff. You haven't provided enough information about the job offer in Canada, certainly in Ab there are more public holidays, guess the comparison will come down to bang for your bucks!
C

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You are asking members to answer a question that is not a simple one, my answer to the next will always be different, that is why life is such fun, we all do and enjoy different things, my answer to your question is to write 3 lists, one for you home country one for Canada and one for Australia.

Write the likes and dislikes, and then research each one, ask questions even visit each country until you can decide, as at the end of the day YOU are the one that has to live with the decision.



Enjoy, and the best of luck in deciding, Oh and I would pick Canada each time:thumbup:

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Hi,

Thanks for the replies but I am trying to ascertain the working conditions in Canada and the benefits expected.
Any info?

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How long is a piece of string?

Your question is virtually unanswerable. The range of employers probably goes from the worst imaginable to the best you can have. How can one describe working conditions for the whole country? It can't be done.

The least you could do is throw us a bone and tell us what areas of employment you are looking at and perhaps what part of the country you would like to move to. That would be a start.;)

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Mate read the aussie section. It seems the same sort of complaints are on both messageboards. The main reason that would stop me moving to aussie is the travelling back to blighty.

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Grizzly bears in the garden or poisonous spiders under the toilet seat... both countries have their problems with dangerous animals :).

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The Okanagan has its fair share of black widows.

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Black Widows live outdoors in bits of wood though, don't they? I remember seeing one on a log in America once.

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Actually we even get them in Alberta. Most commonly found indoors; in yer fridge!

(They get packed along with the grapes shipped up from California - so effectively, you can 'buy' 'em in Safeway...lol) :rofl:

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Right that's it! I'm not bloody going!
C

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They sometimes come with the bananas too.:p

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Do they do "buy one get one free" on spiders? :eek:

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We have to compete with the USA so therefore our working conditions are very similar.
If the list you give contain very, very important factors in your immigration choice, then don't consider canada......

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No but they do sometimes give ten times airmiles if you get one. ;)

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My wife once ...........................

No I'm sorry I cant.

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You truly are a sick, sick individual. :rofl::rofl::rofl:

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You must have done research to get/bother with BC PNP ????????

If not you're an idiot....if so, then why ask an unaswerable question here.

Use the search button or google if you're leaving things this late.

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NO
I think its your mind thats sick. :sneaky:

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It takes one to know one. :sneaky::p:lol::rofl::rofl:

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.......and a bigger one to find one! :lol:

(that's what my mum always said anyway).

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We live in Adelaide. I work in Heavy Industry and none of my UK experience would count to an Australian employer, so this meant starting at the very bottom on a wage that has to be supplemented by the money that I earnt in the UK.
I have just got back into heavy industry and we are now looking to move to Canada as we could seriously live with out the Pommie bashing that goes on.

The Aus culture is a stereotype of a hardworking, hard drinking fast sense of humour with great deal of get over yourself. In reality the hard work is left to the migrants, the only constant that we have found is the racism, even the headmaster of our childrens school gave his 'dont come here expecting us to like you' speech to friends of ours who are police officers and have been in Aus for two years.
There is a big chip on an Australians shoulder, generally about America or anyone else who has a standard of living greater than the local Australian.

The UK has far greater salaries than Australia. The South Australia news paper summed it up recently in the Editors blog when he said, 'After the massive influx of Brits to Adelaide have realised that the only thing that we have to offer them is sunshine and sea they will either go interstate or to Canada'.
Be careful on your choices as you may have to live with them for longer than you anticipated.

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LOL - yer not going to let an itsy bitsy spider put you off, surely? ;)

That's new to me; not heard that before.....(least I've never seen it on the news). :p

Fortunately they aren't prolific enough for that. Should make Claire a bit happier, eh?

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A bit sensitive are you!!
Never mind hey

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Your experiences really are going to depend on the types you have to mix with. If you spend the bulk of your work and social time with educated professionals, you're going to have a pleasant time. If you spend the bulk of your time with illiterate retards you're going to get some grief. What about the great British racist going on about bloody Albanians? Working on the docks in Vancouver is going to yield a different experience from working in a library in Adelaide, isn't it?

I'm not sure entire nations can be dismissed because someone ends up working with some dicks or gets a hard time in the local shops.

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I totally agree with the previous post on this.

I can't dismiss a total country or make sweeping statements on racism.

The only reason that I got my present job is because it is a British company operating in Australia and the boss is British and not Australian, he was prepared to look beyond where I was born and more into previous experience and transferable skills.

But, to be fair, if a school Headmaster can make jingoistic and xenophobic remarks then really you should start to feel a little uncomfortable in your host country. We live in middle class suburbia and my wife is of Chinese heritage and there is nothing more symbolic of the inherent fear of the Australian than the influx of the Asian/Oriental. Add this to the Pommie b*stard syndrome and quite frankly mate you have picked the wrong country.:rofl:

On the Aussie side of things, they are trying to protect the indigenous labour force by resisting skilled migrants entering the market at the same level they held in their original country. This is seen when the you have British ex Police Inspectors now operating as beat Constables.
Maybe they shouldn't have sent local government employees over to encourage the Brits into South Australia, as they didn't consult the companies that they were recruiting for.
I personally didn't arrive here to take a position in a fast food chain:eek:

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What is 'behind' is your notion that you ought to depend on your employer to give you what you want... times have changed.

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A point well made. Luckily in Canada my only experience so far has been nothing but welcoming and I can be British without fear of some accusation relating to former colonial behaviour ;)

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Hi Ron

Check out the Canada forums though - if you think Australia makes skilled workers go to bottom of the deck, the attitude is institutionalised in Canada. The Canadian policy of not recognising foreign qualifications and experience is well known, so look out.

Also, Canadians are very different from Australians. Aussies tend to "tell it like it is" and this can offend more introverted Brits, whereas Canadians are generally much less forward. In other words they seem more polite. But seeming polite doesn't mean they are actually inherently more polite. They just know how to be polite to strangers, something the Brits and Aussies are not so good at.

Also, when you get to Canada your annual leave may well get cut in half as well, so brace for impact.

Still, good luck in the transition and I hope you settle well there.

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ZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz ;)

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Thanks very much for this. Obviously the problem lies with my expectations.
I should curtail them and accept the inevitable. My position in Aus is a 2 week on 2 week off rota and would imagine this to be similar in Canada (maybe I am in for another shock:rofl: )

Thanks again.

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Don't believe they hype Ron. Unfortunately Tableleg likes to generalize when it comes to Canada V Australia. Check it out for yourself, not everyone only gets 2 days holiday a year :D
Good luck.

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good point and it's certainly not generally the case here in Alberta. The recruitment market is so tough that employers are being more innovative and more sensible about the whole compensation package. The variable elements of compensation are moving up the agenda e.g. holiday, flex days, health cover etc.

As for recognising qualifications, my experience is that with many companies proving that you can do the job to the standard required is good enough. I met some engineers from Warsaw and Ukraine recently and only today a payroll specialist from Columbia.

opportunities exist:thumbup: